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KnicksGod wrote:DaGawd wrote:KnicksGod wrote:
Randle has just been hot. He’s a bum. And he doesn’t care about winning.
The real bum is ya boy R Barrett
He’s missing shots but he’s still hanging in there. We already know what Randle is.
mpharris36 wrote:god shammgod wrote:mpharris36 wrote:
538 came out with there new RAPTOR advance metrics for the 2021 season
randle and mitch the best knicks. as if we needed any more proof.
The biggest surprise is batum is one of the best players in the NBA lol
he is kind of invaluable to that team though.
mpharris36 wrote:
538 came out with there new RAPTOR advance metrics for the 2021 season
god shammgod wrote:mpharris36 wrote:god shammgod wrote:
randle and mitch the best knicks. as if we needed any more proof.
The biggest surprise is batum is one of the best players in the NBA lol
mpharris36 wrote:god shammgod wrote:mpharris36 wrote:
The biggest surprise is batum is one of the best players in the NBA lol
whats also sad is in 10% of his minutes Frank has a higher WAR then RJ.
WAR is a cumulative stat that the more games/minutes you play in theory the higher WAR you should have.
The fact Frank has been more valuable in 40 minutes than RJ has been in 400 minutes is very concerning
DaGawd wrote:KnicksGod wrote:DaGawd wrote:The real bum is ya boy R Barrett
He’s missing shots but he’s still hanging in there. We already know what Randle is.
He’s missing shots and being a complete net negative on the court. Randle is making teammates who can actually shoot better (Knox, Rivers). R does nothing out there to help us.. he only hurts
KnicksGod wrote:DaGawd wrote:KnicksGod wrote:
He’s missing shots but he’s still hanging in there. We already know what Randle is.
He’s missing shots and being a complete net negative on the court. Randle is making teammates who can actually shoot better (Knox, Rivers). R does nothing out there to help us.. he only hurts
What I see from Rivers is that he gets the ball and is asked to do too much because the ball is not moving. He's made some 3's but I don't think it's because of Randle. I also don't think Knox will regress if Randle is dealt away.
Randle is tradable now but he's not leading the Knicks very far. He's too many mistakes, bad D, turnovers, and his offensive isn't good enough to overcome it. He is always in the middle of some defensive lapse and he's a ball stopper too. He's taking shots now that aren't even close. This is closer to who he is than the hot start guy. Sadly lol.
His jumper comes back down as it is now and he's not a really good player.
RJ is struggling but he has a good makeup and enough skill. You don't need to overplay him or count on him a ton yet but he has a chance to be a very good player. Randle is a good 2nd or 3rd scorer somewhere else.
Elfrid is a disaster. Give his PT to Frank and keep developing Frank.
DaGawd wrote:KnicksGod wrote:DaGawd wrote:He’s missing shots and being a complete net negative on the court. Randle is making teammates who can actually shoot better (Knox, Rivers). R does nothing out there to help us.. he only hurts
What I see from Rivers is that he gets the ball and is asked to do too much because the ball is not moving. He's made some 3's but I don't think it's because of Randle. I also don't think Knox will regress if Randle is dealt away.
Randle is tradable now but he's not leading the Knicks very far. He's too many mistakes, bad D, turnovers, and his offensive isn't good enough to overcome it. He is always in the middle of some defensive lapse and he's a ball stopper too. He's taking shots now that aren't even close. This is closer to who he is than the hot start guy. Sadly lol.
His jumper comes back down as it is now and he's not a really good player.
RJ is struggling but he has a good makeup and enough skill. You don't need to overplay him or count on him a ton yet but he has a chance to be a very good player. Randle is a good 2nd or 3rd scorer somewhere else.
Elfrid is a disaster. Give his PT to Frank and keep developing Frank.
Are you making these claims all of of Randle’s 1 bad game last night???
I'm not saying RJ isn't in really bad territory right now but I think he's going to be a really good player. Or at least he has a reasonable chance of that.
Whatever happened to jcv.... something something something.mpharris36 wrote:3toheadmelo wrote:mpharris36 wrote:
perfect face for sham now that he is one of your burner accounts
More burner accounts on the way...
worst to first is the most egregious one...he doesn't even post anymore he just And-1's your posts
KnicksGod wrote:DaGawd wrote:KnicksGod wrote:
What I see from Rivers is that he gets the ball and is asked to do too much because the ball is not moving. He's made some 3's but I don't think it's because of Randle. I also don't think Knox will regress if Randle is dealt away.
Randle is tradable now but he's not leading the Knicks very far. He's too many mistakes, bad D, turnovers, and his offensive isn't good enough to overcome it. He is always in the middle of some defensive lapse and he's a ball stopper too. He's taking shots now that aren't even close. This is closer to who he is than the hot start guy. Sadly lol.
His jumper comes back down as it is now and he's not a really good player.
RJ is struggling but he has a good makeup and enough skill. You don't need to overplay him or count on him a ton yet but he has a chance to be a very good player. Randle is a good 2nd or 3rd scorer somewhere else.
Elfrid is a disaster. Give his PT to Frank and keep developing Frank.
Are you making these claims all of of Randle’s 1 bad game last night???
No I'm basing it on the fact that his play last night was similar to the poor play we've seen from him as a Knick. He's kind of toxic. He stands around while people dunk on us (it's exhausting Mitch). He takes his crappy little side fadeaways. His 3 ball and long 2 was hot as hell but it was obvious it wouldn't last. It's not lasting.
He's really a guy who should be dealt when the stock is high. Maybe you could even pluck a decent young player.
The things that make up RJ are better. He cuts without the ball, he makes low mistakes, he has underrated driving moves, and I think he can be an average shooter.
I know this board is not fond of going against the momentary grain but I'll do it anyway
Randle is no good. What I see from him is a guy who doesn't really care about winning. He's a good scorer if you don't rely on him a ton.
KnicksGod wrote:Gravy wrote:Kevin Knox with 5 threes a team high 19pts and 5reb 2ast and played 30 minutes. He looked like an NBA player last night.
He’s making strides but he was pretty bad second half. He has a long way to go.
3toheadmelo wrote:KnicksGod wrote:DaGawd wrote:Are you making these claims all of of Randle’s 1 bad game last night???
No I'm basing it on the fact that his play last night was similar to the poor play we've seen from him as a Knick. He's kind of toxic. He stands around while people dunk on us (it's exhausting Mitch). He takes his crappy little side fadeaways. His 3 ball and long 2 was hot as hell but it was obvious it wouldn't last. It's not lasting.
He's really a guy who should be dealt when the stock is high. Maybe you could even pluck a decent young player.
The things that make up RJ are better. He cuts without the ball, he makes low mistakes, he has underrated driving moves, and I think he can be an average shooter.
I know this board is not fond of going against the momentary grain but I'll do it anyway
Randle is no good. What I see from him is a guy who doesn't really care about winning. He's a good scorer if you don't rely on him a ton.
It sounds like you’re basing all of this from one game. Cause he’s been actually solid on defense, making the right passes, and has been a scoring machine.
KnicksGod wrote:3toheadmelo wrote:KnicksGod wrote:
No I'm basing it on the fact that his play last night was similar to the poor play we've seen from him as a Knick. He's kind of toxic. He stands around while people dunk on us (it's exhausting Mitch). He takes his crappy little side fadeaways. His 3 ball and long 2 was hot as hell but it was obvious it wouldn't last. It's not lasting.
He's really a guy who should be dealt when the stock is high. Maybe you could even pluck a decent young player.
The things that make up RJ are better. He cuts without the ball, he makes low mistakes, he has underrated driving moves, and I think he can be an average shooter.
I know this board is not fond of going against the momentary grain but I'll do it anyway
Randle is no good. What I see from him is a guy who doesn't really care about winning. He's a good scorer if you don't rely on him a ton.
It sounds like you’re basing all of this from one game. Cause he’s been actually solid on defense, making the right passes, and has been a scoring machine.
Yea for a few games. You like him and I want to like him. But he's a flatfooted defender and a mistake prone offensive player whose jumper is really not that good.
If Randle's J was a little better he'd be a legit 1st scorer. But it's not and his passing comes and goes. He's a turnover machine really.
He's talented like a lot of NBA players and he's a potent offensive player but as a package, he's not the guy for us. Those mistakes he makes -- he'll always make them and they're costly.
In basketball mistakes kill you. A missed shot is much better than a mistake. Randle standing around while guys dunk, or throwing the ball away, or taking a bad shot ... these are all mistakes and the mistakes sink your team. Lower usage, different team, bye.
mpharris36 wrote:
538 came out with there new RAPTOR advance metrics for the 2021 season
3toheadmelo wrote:KnicksGod wrote:3toheadmelo wrote:It sounds like you’re basing all of this from one game. Cause he’s been actually solid on defense, making the right passes, and has been a scoring machine.
Yea for a few games. You like him and I want to like him. But he's a flatfooted defender and a mistake prone offensive player whose jumper is really not that good.
If Randle's J was a little better he'd be a legit 1st scorer. But it's not and his passing comes and goes. He's a turnover machine really.
He's talented like a lot of NBA players and he's a potent offensive player but as a package, he's not the guy for us. Those mistakes he makes -- he'll always make them and they're costly.
In basketball mistakes kill you. A missed shot is much better than a mistake. Randle standing around while guys dunk, or throwing the ball away, or taking a bad shot ... these are all mistakes and the mistakes sink your team. Lower usage, different team, bye.
He’s been passing extremely well pretty much every game. Which games has he not besides last night?
The impact Randle has on our team is enormous. Without him, we’re the worst team in the league.
KnicksGod wrote:Also I do think Randle is taking away RJ's oxygen some. Not saying RJ will immediately start hitting 3's, but Randle and Elfrid are just bad for rhythm. RJ needs the ball to have some rhythm. There's really no point in investing in Randle.
With RJ you have seen some big games this year. So it's not like there's nothing there to even give us any hope. I think if you dealt away Randle it would help RJ.
