playa-hater wrote:GWVan wrote:playa-hater wrote:[
The simple conclusion I have is YOU and some others have different sets of standards. You are happy with the status quo, the treadmill approach. I for one want another title.
Can we address the treadmill bs? A treadmill team is a team that is not contending but not horrible. First round exit every year, no real promise for the future. The Orlando Magic. A team that has made it to the final four three out of the last four years, that barring injury (and mental instability) free would have certainly been in the finals at least twice in the last four years, that has two of the most promising young players in the league, and is currently sporting the best record in the league is NOT a treadmill team.
Side note: during the regular season, the regular season record does matter, in fact it is the only thing that matters.
The entitlement of some fans astounds me. I guess that if you live in the Boston area and root for all the local teams you feel that at least one championship should come your way every year. At least you are still not as bad as Yankee fans, so you have that going for you. Here in my area I see people who are more positive about the local team even though they ARE a treadmill team that has never won a championship and made only one trip to the finals.
I don't do other sports, don't root for other NBA teams, the NBA season ends on the Celtics last game of the year. I have always been and will always be a Celtics fan. There have been good times and there have been bad times. This is not a bad time, it's actually pretty good. Rick Pitino and Jim O'Brien are not walking thru that door.
Did I mention we have Tacko? How could you not love a team that has Tacko?
You can always find teams like Orlando that is worse. but treadmill basically means "staying the same" year after year. Yes we are much closer than Orlando types. But I do not want to be the Bucks of the late 80s, the early Cavs team of the 90's, Utah mid 90s Toronto forever? until they finally pushed through.
As for being entitled??? We have one Ring in 34 years. Hardly feel entitled.
I'm not buying your definition of a treadmill team - If you are a contender, as we have been for 4 years you cannot be a treadmill team. Even if you feel that not getting over the top makes you a treadmill team then if you feel like the team is getting better (and we have two very young stars) then you can't be a treadmill team.
Your examples "Bucks of the late 80s, the early Cavs team of the 90's, Utah mid 90s Toronto forever? until they finally pushed through." confuse me - so a team is a treadmill until they win? Is every team a treadmill team except the Lakers right now? If they don't win it all this year because someone gets injured in the finals are they back to a treadmill team? I'm generally confused as to what your expectations are. It feels like we must be so great a team that we are a lock for the championship every year. That actually would be kind of boring.