James harden says “this situation is crazy. Can’t be fixed” then leaves podium/John wall doesn’t agree with Harden

[ATRAIN53]

Trade Harden to the Wizards and make him play with Westbrook again

LOL

Harden for Beal works in the trade machine!

[djsunyc]

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Lmao that's how I look after eating at an AYCE kbbq

that's nba tv. they cruch the screen down bc of their banner on the bottom. its not tru proportion. everyone looks wider.

[Moahst]

MPJ is a weird target imo, i would go after Ingram

I think it makes more sense than anything else. You replace your lead scorer with another guy who could be a lead scorer eventually and the construct of the team more or less stays the same. He's young so you're building towards a future. It's as close to a retool as we're going to get. Adding Simmons creates so many fit issues with this current roster we'd spend the better part of the next two years just trying to surround him with complementary pieces.

[Kvothe22]

Kick him out of the League, so he can cry 24/7 if he wants.

Spoiled fata55.

[DIO]

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ok he didn't say that

[BlazersBroncos]

wow, did Wall really say that? Love it.

[Jadoogar]

Dude's 31, fat and due to make $130 million over the next three years. Not sure who's going to touch him at this point.

C'mon now. He's a top 5 player in the league when engaged and can singlehandedly get a team in the playoffs, those type of players aren't available very often. 31 isn't very old and you have him locked up for his prime

Teams are just lining up, aren't they?

They likely are, rockets are asking a lot, as they should. It's called negotiating.
Recent deals like Paul George and Jrue are the exception. Those teams were in unique desperate situations. Neither the rockets nor the team trading for him are in urgent need. Plus the players signed this summer can't be traded until February 6th anyways

[Tracymcgoaty]

The only reason this situation is crazy is because of Harden.

Harden cant handle someone holding him accountable - CP3

Harden **** the roster of that team up completely when he traded him away. Then turns around and points fingers at everyone else but him. Coming in overweight and licking booty holes whilst at the same time acting like he's not to blame is worthy of getting a slap to the face. I cant believe someone hasn't done that yet. Seriously im not one for violence and i never will. But at the same time there are certain players who are in need of a slap or two. One slap to remind him of how great he is..And another one to remind him this team only went to the **** because you are a petulant man child.

[LesGrossman]

Trade Kawhi for Harden.

wow.

[Roy The Natural]

I think that it's pretty obvious. I'm not going to give you my political views because that doesn't matter. I'm telling you that all of these things were the reports on why Harden wants out. They are protesting in the bubble for things that the owner feels the opposite about and donates to

If you think he cares about that I feel sorry for you or even if he should care about that

Did you care about what just transpired at the capital? Should James have cared about that

Let's not make this about politics, but the simple response to this is:. What happened at the capital is no more, and no less than a natural progression from what's been happening over the last 6 years. Russiagate was just as nonsensical as stop the steal and rioting and mob.violence has been getting excused and normalized for half a decade... What happened at the capital was totally unacceptable, but totally predictable. Things will only get worse for both sides until politicians make the decision to stop inciting and condoning their own side and demonizing the other.

[dlts20]

If you think he cares about that I feel sorry for you or even if he should care about that

Did you care about what just transpired at the capital? Should James have cared about that

Let's not make this about politics, but the simple response to this is:. What happened at the capital is no more, and no less than a natural progression from what's been happening over the last 6 years. Russiagate was just as nonsensical as stop the steal and rioting and mob.violence has been getting excused and normalize for half a decade... What happened at the capital was totally unacceptable, but totally predictable. Things will only get worse for both sides until politicians make the decision to stop in sighting and condoning their own side and demonizing the other.

I'm just saying that alot of the players openly spoke out against it but the owner supports the guy behind it in the face of the players blm movement. Do you think that LeBron, Draymond, Beal, and others would be happy if that were their owner? The new Cowboys players were standing up against how Jerry Jones was lining with Trump. I'm not saying that it should matter but if you think that it doesn't to these guys then you are being naive

[dlts20]

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ok he didn't say that

So you don't think him liking it means that he agrees... Lol

[Zombiesonics]

harden is an embarrassment to the nba and this is a stain on his legacy. Has any star/future hof been this petulant in public? Be a good teammate, for basketballs sake.

[gmoney411]

The only reason this situation is crazy is because of Harden.

Harden cant handle someone holding him accountable - CP3

Harden **** the roster of that team up completely when he traded him away. Then turns around and points fingers at everyone else but him. Coming in overweight and licking booty holes whilst at the same time acting like he's not to blame is worthy of getting a slap to the face. I cant believe someone hasn't done that yet. Seriously im not one for violence and i never will. But at the same time there are certain players who are in need of a slap or two. One slap to remind him of how great he is..And another one to remind him this team only went to the **** because you are a petulant man child.

Harden definitely deserves blame for the Russ trade but you can't win in this league dodging the luxury tax. The 18-19 Rockets penny pinched and destroyed a contending roster. I've watched in amazement and disbelief as the Rockets refused to sign anyone for more than the minimum after a 65 win season and pushing the Warriors to game 7. The Rockets current roster isn't a great fit and is hard capped. There is almost no way to make it a contender this year and probably not next either.

[gmoney411]

harden is an embarrassment to the nba and this is a stain on his legacy. Has any star/future hof been this petulant in public? Be a good teammate, for basketballs sake.

Vince, Howard, George, Kawhi, and Butler have all made it clear they want off teams in the past. If they could just go politely ask for a trade I'm sure they would. Being a jackass seems to be the way to get teams to actually move you.

[Coach Carter]

Two teams in play here unless Boston are willing to trade Brown. They then would have the best offer (Smart included). No idea though why Boston would risk ruining their team chemistry. I think they should keep their young core and work towards a chip in the coming years. Houston would jump at the opportunity to add Brown.

Nets are a new team. With Kyrie and his antics, they've already gambled and might as well continue to do so. They can create a 3 headed monster. Not much leadership but they'll have the most top tier talent. Nets would have to give up LeVert, Allen and Dinwiddie and say Prince to make the contracts work. They could receive a really good role player in PJ Tucker. Houston inherits the Nets team which was around 6th, 7th best in the East not too long back. That would translate to maybe 10th in the West but with wall and wood, that's possibly a playoff team.

Sixers are possibly losing their patience with Simmons and now they just fined him. Though he is a beast defensively, at the other end he hasn't shown improvement and the fit with Embiid is ever awkward. Embiid when healthy is a monster, arguably the best big with a more suitable skillset than Giannis for the playoffs. He is ready to win now but like Giannis, needs to play with a top tier talent guard. You have to question the leadership but Harden + Embiid would be scary. Houston can build around Simmons; surround him with shooters. Wall would have to eventually be traded. Wood dare i say, can space the floor but in Milwaukee, the coaches felt that he didn't work with Giannis and if it's the same case in Houston, Rockets can always flip him as now he'll be worth something on the market.

[snoopdogg88]

The bottom line is Harden picked the worst possible season to want out.

There are no teams that are a logical fit/contender that have the assets the Rox would want or are willing to give them up.
And at no time in history has a team given up a 24 year old Ben Simmons caliber player for a 31 year old. It’s just not gonna happen.

If he gets traded mid season (and I doubt he will) it’s gonna be some completely random out of nowhere offer that no one saw coming.

[Wigginstime]

The last two I actually think have a better shot. Philly not parting with Ben and I don’t believe Boston wants to part with Brown either(they shouldn’t, brown has been balling and is still on the uprise)

Both blazers and Nuggets been having their struggles and maybe need that one star like harden to get over the hump.

You cannot pair Harden with Lillard or Jokic. Has anybody not seen that he cannot operate, or refuses to operate, with anyone else who is best with the ball in their hands? CP3, Westbrook, Wall.

Philly makes the most sense, maybe the only sense.

Better tell the nuggets and blazers front offices that. If a deal is in the table I could see anyone of them taking it in fact I think both teams did their due diligence and made calls(correct me if I’m wrong but I believe I seen a report on it)

Houston seems very high on MPJ.
Denver doesn't seem interested in Harden, but does seem interested in some of the potential offers for Harden to help their defense.

Realistically I think Denver was hoping to be involved in the Boston Deal if Boston was willing to trade Brown.
Houston Gets: Porter + Picks + Salary Filler
Denver Gets: Brown/Smart
Boston Gets: Harden

However Brown is playing out of his mind (went from a PER of 16 to 24). Given Brown looks like he has made a massive leap this year from above average starter to all star - i don't think there is a chance in hell Boston includes him in any trade, which kills Denvers interest.

[HotelVitale]

Dude's 31, fat and due to make $130 million over the next three years. Not sure who's going to touch him at this point.

You're right, market will probably be limited to teams that want absurdly dominant all-time great offensive players.

Again, they're just lining up, aren't they? Nobody can ever question Harden's skills or accomplishments. He's an all-time great player. I just have zero respect for somebody who has basically quit. Have some respect for yourself and your fan base. At the very least, non-centers shouldn't be out here balling with tits.

That's cool, I'm just more into talking about basketball on basketball boards and not making it an excuse to repeat the small moral stances I use in my day to day life. You don't like people who aren't loyal and hardworking, most of us don't, and yeah of course there are some things Harden has done that none of us would probably want ourselves or our friends to have done. He's also really really good at basketball and teams are likely gauging that he'll be a lot more engaged once he gets out of Houston. He's less valued than a mega-star in his prime would be for all those reasons--and his age even more so--but many many teams are still clearly interested in him. Be cool to talk about that rather than toss out moral platitudes and flat zingers about how a world-class athlete is fat.

[HMFFL]

When you have the fame and money that Harden does it's easy to just walk away from things and move on. He treats the relationships he's had the similar. Nothing can be fixed so it's easier to move on.

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