Barely Legal: The Vernon Carey Jr Thread

MugzZo · Post #121 » by **MugzZo** » Tue Dec 1, 2020 6:02 am

DY_nasty wrote:nbadraft.net is the same site that said deshawn stevenson was the next jordan lmao

Those early 2000's draft comparisons on that site were ahhhmazing.

Liver_Pooty · Post #122 » by **Liver_Pooty** » Tue Dec 1, 2020 6:26 am

James Gatz wrote:
Liver_Pooty wrote:
BigSlam wrote:Careful mate, this is just phase #1.

If this goes to phase #2 we’ll be heading into Misterglover territory!!

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LOL. Whew, that guy would have legitimately murdered me. No doubt.

Woahhhhhhh! Forgot all about that. How many years ago did that happen?

Just went thru my messages in inbox. Full of cool stuff. Was 7 years ago. This was my favorite from him. "Exactly, LOL...what punks always say or do... but hey here's my number...704.910.4247 feel free to call me im serious about that trip to Charlotte, 'dead serious...would love to show you how serious!!"

In the next one he said he'd buy my mothers black dress to my funeral. All over me defending MKG over Otto Potter. Lol

SWedd523 · Post #123 » by **SWedd523** » Tue Dec 1, 2020 1:17 pm

I think I was second or third on his hit list

I still haven't emotionally recovered from that

Post #124 » by **BigSlam** » Tue Dec 1, 2020 1:29 pm

Liver_Pooty wrote:
James Gatz wrote:
Liver_Pooty wrote:
LOL. Whew, that guy would have legitimately murdered me. No doubt.

Woahhhhhhh! Forgot all about that. How many years ago did that happen?

Just went thru my messages in inbox. Full of cool stuff. Was 7 years ago. This was my favorite from him. "Exactly, LOL...what punks always say or do... but hey here's my number...704.910.4247 feel free to call me im serious about that trip to Charlotte, 'dead serious...would love to show you how serious!!"

In the next one he said he'd buy my mothers black dress to my funeral. All over me defending MKG over Otto Potter. Lol

He posted that he had enough bullets for you and your family!! He went sideways, fast.

Anyway, let’s get this back to Vernon (my fault, I derailed).

You’ve watched him a lot at Duke: How’s his screen setting?

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Liver_Pooty · Post #125 » by **Liver_Pooty** » Tue Dec 1, 2020 2:14 pm

BigSlam wrote:
Liver_Pooty wrote:
James Gatz wrote:
Woahhhhhhh! Forgot all about that. How many years ago did that happen?

Just went thru my messages in inbox. Full of cool stuff. Was 7 years ago. This was my favorite from him. "Exactly, LOL...what punks always say or do... but hey here's my number...704.910.4247 feel free to call me im serious about that trip to Charlotte, 'dead serious...would love to show you how serious!!"

In the next one he said he'd buy my mothers black dress to my funeral. All over me defending MKG over Otto Potter. Lol

He posted that he had enough bullets for you and your family!! He went sideways, fast.

Anyway, let’s get this back to Vernon (my fault, I derailed).

You’ve watched him a lot at Duke: How’s his screen setting?

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Screens themselves are solid for the most part (hes a strong man), but he has a lot to work on that department. This is an article I read a whole back that I tracked down that basically sums it up entirely. Hes still very much a project, but I think hes going to be a very good player for us.

https://www.dukechronicle.com/article/2020/01/film-room-duke-mens-basketballs-vernon-carey-jr-needs-to-elevate-his-game-in-the-pick-and-roll

Chapelchilla · Post #126 » by **Chapelchilla** » Tue Dec 1, 2020 4:34 pm

I like that we signed him up for 4. I think he will be a bargain for the last couple years of that and we need the cost control measures in place.

Post #127 » by **yosemiteben** » Wed Dec 2, 2020 1:58 am

Changed thread title in honor of this tweet:

Read on Twitter

SWedd523 · Post #128 » by **SWedd523** » Wed Dec 2, 2020 2:14 am

Barely Legal

BlackOutBuzz · Post #129 » by **BlackOutBuzz** » Thu Dec 3, 2020 4:17 pm

Watch on YouTube

The video itself is pretty meh, but just read this thumbnail. LMAO, the LaMelo effect is Lin-esque.

penquin11 · Post #130 » by **penquin11** » Wed Jan 13, 2021 7:55 pm

Where has this dude been

JMAC3 · Post #131 » by **JMAC3** » Wed Jan 13, 2021 8:08 pm

Is there a single second rounder playing meaningful minutes this season? Not sure why everyone is panicking on Vernon at this point.

How often do 19 year old second rounders do anything their first year in the league? I would be willing to bet the front office is expecting nothing from his this season. The plan with him is long-term development.

Chapelchilla · Post #132 » by **Chapelchilla** » Wed Jan 13, 2021 10:26 pm

He should be in Greensboro working on his game but that’s not currently an option. Hopefully he gets some more PT here sometime.

James Gatz · Post #133 » by **James Gatz** » Tue Jan 26, 2021 7:02 pm

https://www.charlotteobserver.com/sports/charlotte-hornets/article248743960.html

How Charlotte Hornets general manager Mitch Kupchak’s describes rookies Vernon Carey and Nick Richards?

“Overwhelmed.”

It’s not their fault, Kupchak said. The pandemic robbed this rookie class of a normal on-boarding process to the NBA. Instead of summer league, three months of individual coaching and pick-up games with veterans, they had two weeks between the draft and training camp to move, get physicals and sign contracts.

I've been very much in the don't play them if they aren't ready and this confirms the coaching staff feels they aren't ready.

DY_nasty · Post #134 » by **DY_nasty** » Tue Jan 26, 2021 7:44 pm

this coaching staff ain't ready so i'm kinda like whatever...

like if these guys aren't picking up the zone - sure. makes sense. even the guys we have on the court struggle with it.

Post #135 » by **BigSlam** » Tue Jan 26, 2021 7:51 pm

James Gatz wrote:https://www.charlotteobserver.com/sports/charlotte-hornets/article248743960.html

How Charlotte Hornets general manager Mitch Kupchak’s describes rookies Vernon Carey and Nick Richards?

“Overwhelmed.”

It’s not their fault, Kupchak said. The pandemic robbed this rookie class of a normal on-boarding process to the NBA. Instead of summer league, three months of individual coaching and pick-up games with veterans, they had two weeks between the draft and training camp to move, get physicals and sign contracts.

I've been very much in the don't play them if they aren't ready and this confirms the coaching staff feels they aren't ready.

I get it and said prior to the draft that everyone’s expectations for any rookie this year should be low based on the turbulent college season and rushed NBA lead in rookies had, but I’m not saying someone like Vern should be getting 30mins a night.

Surely spoon feeding him a few mins a night, especially when Biz, Cody and PJ are getting walloped by opposing bigs, would be beneficial to him and to us?

Liver_Pooty · Post #136 » by **Liver_Pooty** » Tue Jan 26, 2021 8:41 pm

Can the dude catch a basketball? If so hes an upgrade.

DY_nasty · Post #137 » by **DY_nasty** » Tue Jan 26, 2021 9:18 pm

if we play vern then next thing you know, teams will be abusing us in the paint and the worst shooting squads in the league will be lighting us up from 3

Snidely FC · Post #138 » by **Snidely FC** » Fri Feb 5, 2021 1:50 am

The fact that Vernon Carey Jr. went 32nd overall despite putting forth one of the most productive per-40-minute seasons the ACC has ever seen from a freshman is proof that NBA teams aren't exactly clamoring for more traditional bigs who can't guard in space or protect the rim.

-Quoted from today's Givony/Schmitz ESPN+ article on whether Luke Garza will find a role in the NBA

KembaWalker · Post #139 » by **KembaWalker** » Fri Feb 5, 2021 3:36 pm

DY_nasty wrote:if we play vern then next thing you know, teams will be abusing us in the paint and the worst shooting squads in the league will be lighting us up from 3

so, no change?

Post #140 » by **BigSlam** » Mon Feb 8, 2021 3:12 pm

From Jay Hernandez:

DS: You mentioned that Ray and Vernon Carey are in film sessions working together. Vernon is an assignee and was a one-and-done player with Duke. In the limited amount of time that you two have been together, how he’s grown in terms of his skill set, developing his basketball IQ, and knowing where to be on the court?

JH: I think he’s come a very long way in terms of knowing the system, knowing the timing of things is really important. We’re going to put the ball in his hands a lot on the perimeter and in the post to be a playmaker. I think he’s a naturally skilled scorer, and so we’re also going to try to find ways to also utilize him as a passer, whether it’s out of the post, him flashing to the ball, or him being able to handle the ball like Cody Zeller with working the ball on top, dribble hand-offs and keepers, and things of that nature.

Also, when he’s in the pocket and the ball comes to him, what are his reads and decisions. A lot of that stuff sounds easier than it is. When it’s live speed, and you have talented players out there, it’s a split-second decision, so I think his reads and his mind is working a lot faster.

In terms of style, he’s a guy that can really shoot the ball, so we’re trying to find balance for him where he’s rolling hard to the rim and putting pressure on the rim. We also want him to get to the line a lot more, so it’s a style thing as well with Vern. I think he’s starting to pick that up. He’s so strong. Has great touch.

So we’re trying to find that balance for him where he’s using that physicality, really sealing guys, running the floor, putting pressure on the rim. If he does that, that would open up driving lanes for our guys, it’s going to open up three-point shots. I think he’s starting to understand that concept, and when he fully gets immersed in games and he’s doing it consistently, then that’s where you can really see him make that big leap.