Stephen Curry has been totally exposed

[Optms]

Not a good game by Curry, he does go from looking very average to elite from game to game though so not too worried

A lot of players are doing that this year. It's a strange start to the season.

Elite players tho ? Seems like his variance is higher than his peers this yr (small sample size )

I don't think there is any player that is being asked to do more though. You probably have to go back to Kobe in 2006 to find a more depleted cast.

The Warriors don't just have a scoring problem when Curry isn't on the court, they have a total IQ problem. Guys can't make simple reads, cuts, picks or passes. And for a player like Curry that is deadly off the ball as well, they can't even find him when he is in optimal catch and shoot territory.

[DonaldSanders]

A lot of players are doing that this year. It's a strange start to the season.

Elite players tho ? Seems like his variance is higher than his peers this yr (small sample size )

I don't think there is any player that is being asked to do more though. You probably have to go back to Kobe in 2006 to find a more depleted cast.

The Warriors don't just have a scoring problem when Curry isn't on the court, they have a total IQ problem. Guys can't make simple reads, cuts, picks or passes. And for a player like Curry that is deadly off the ball as well, they can't even find him when he is in optimal catch and shoot territory.

This is definitely true. However:
- Last night Paschall was out. He takes heat off Curry for a little each game, and carries the bench scoring. We lost the lead when Steph was out and normally Paschall jumps in and scores.
- The team's IQ of how to run the system is increasing, but some players like Oubre still seem a little behind understanding it. I think there is still a lot of progress to be made, but not everyone will make the same amount of progress

[Ramed Nazored]

So many were waiting, knives out, to lunge on this guy. They could have celebrated his legacy and his greatness, but no. I'm thrilled to see him playing at the level he is while elevating a bad roster to respectability.

People don't celebrate greatness on RealGM. They just hope for the downfall of the greats and revel in it.

[Harry Garris]

So many were waiting, knives out, to lunge on this guy. They could have celebrated his legacy and his greatness, but no. I'm thrilled to see him playing at the level he is while elevating a bad roster to respectability.

People don't celebrate greatness on RealGM. They just hope for the downfall of the greats and revel in it.

Nah there's a pretty significant portion of the userbase of this site who recognize Curry's greatness. Unfortunately the NBA's online presence now on other sites is mostly limited to spicy takes and memes and people who follow the league more so for the player drama than the basketball. So a lot of that has bled over onto RGM as well.

[Ramed Nazored]

So many were waiting, knives out, to lunge on this guy. They could have celebrated his legacy and his greatness, but no. I'm thrilled to see him playing at the level he is while elevating a bad roster to respectability.

People don't celebrate greatness on RealGM. They just hope for the downfall of the greats and revel in it.

Nah there's a pretty significant portion of the userbase of this site who recognize Curry's greatness. Unfortunately the NBA's online presence now on other sites is mostly limited to spicy takes and memes and people who follow the league more so for the player drama than the basketball. So a lot of that has bled over onto RGM as well.

True.

The instagram/twitter accounts propagate a toxic "schadenfreude" culture. ESPN is another culprit. It's just wild how players/teams can be "exposed" after one or two bad games, when they're resting atop legendary bodies of work.

[SeanieWard]

Steph has flaws as a player but he's still very elite.

Steph is facing double teams, triple teams, and box and 1 junk defenses in regular season games. I don't think I've ever seen this before. That's how much his opponents fear him

He might be the only player in the league facing that kind of defense on a night to night basis

His stats don't reflect his impact

[Warriors Analyst]

Steph has flaws as a player but he's still very elite.

Steph is facing double teams, triple teams, and box and 1 junk defenses in regular season games. I don't think I've ever seen this before. That's how much his opponents fear him

He might be the only player in the league facing that kind of defense on a night to night basis

His stats don't reflect his impact

It's not just fear of Steph. It's also about how little teams respect his surrounding cast. Draymond can't shoot. Paschall is only effective below the free throw line. Wiseman can't catch the ball on the roll or really do anything in the paint unless he has a clear path to the hoop. Those are Steph's three most frequent PNR partners. Lee and Mulder are our two best shooters, and they play maybe 6-10 minutes a game with Steph. Wiggins and Bazemore are both shooting pretty well right now, but they're shooting way above their career averages. I don't expect that to last.

The Warriors were looking really good in the 4th quarter with Lee and Mulder both on the court. The Pacers were actually defending the entire court, which hasn't really happened much when Steph plays with the starters and they load up on him. But then Wiseman came back in, the lead started to shrink, and then Oubre came in for Mulder and the Pacers ran away.

[jaymo123]

Steph has flaws as a player but he's still very elite.

Steph is facing double teams, triple teams, and box and 1 junk defenses in regular season games. I don't think I've ever seen this before. That's how much his opponents fear him

He might be the only player in the league facing that kind of defense on a night to night basis

His stats don't reflect his impact

100% agree. They made a small adjustment that I hope happens going forward with the box and 1 and that is give Steph the ball at the top, pass to Draymond when the double comes and Dray has 2 options to pass it too. However, the dubs need to have shooters on the floor and Draymond needs to look for his shot at times because he has open lanes to the basket.

Unless the dubs trade for a shooter, this will be happening all season.

[a8bil]

Steph has flaws as a player but he's still very elite.

Steph is facing double teams, triple teams, and box and 1 junk defenses in regular season games. I don't think I've ever seen this before. That's how much his opponents fear him

He might be the only player in the league facing that kind of defense on a night to night basis

His stats don't reflect his impact

exactly

[Openheimer]

Steph has flaws as a player but he's still very elite.

Steph is facing double teams, triple teams, and box and 1 junk defenses in regular season games. I don't think I've ever seen this before. That's how much his opponents fear him

He might be the only player in the league facing that kind of defense on a night to night basis

His stats don't reflect his impact

Welcome to James hardens world for the last 5 years

[Harry Garris]

So many were waiting, knives out, to lunge on this guy. They could have celebrated his legacy and his greatness, but no. I'm thrilled to see him playing at the level he is while elevating a bad roster to respectability.

People don't celebrate greatness on RealGM. They just hope for the downfall of the greats and revel in it.

Nah there's a pretty significant portion of the userbase of this site who recognize Curry's greatness. Unfortunately the NBA's online presence now on other sites is mostly limited to spicy takes and memes and people who follow the league more so for the player drama than the basketball. So a lot of that has bled over onto RGM as well.

True.

The instagram/twitter accounts propagate a toxic "schadenfreude" culture. ESPN is another culprit. It's just wild how players/teams can be "exposed" after one or two bad games, when they're resting atop legendary bodies of work.

Yeah and there's nothing wrong with following the NBA is a super reactionary everything is drama kind of way if that's what you enjoy I just wish there was at least one place on the internet that was free from it. But there isn't sadly.

[Pablo Escobar]

Steph has flaws as a player but he's still very elite.

Steph is facing double teams, triple teams, and box and 1 junk defenses in regular season games. I don't think I've ever seen this before. That's how much his opponents fear him

He might be the only player in the league facing that kind of defense on a night to night basis

His stats don't reflect his impact

Poor little Steph. Welcome to James Hardens world.

[xdrta+]

Steph has flaws as a player but he's still very elite.

Steph is facing double teams, triple teams, and box and 1 junk defenses in regular season games. I don't think I've ever seen this before. That's how much his opponents fear him

He might be the only player in the league facing that kind of defense on a night to night basis

His stats don't reflect his impact

Poor little Steph. Welcome to James Hardens world.

Harden still plays basketball?

[BoatsNZones]

Steph has flaws as a player but he's still very elite.

Steph is facing double teams, triple teams, and box and 1 junk defenses in regular season games. I don't think I've ever seen this before. That's how much his opponents fear him

He might be the only player in the league facing that kind of defense on a night to night basis

His stats don't reflect his impact

Poor little Steph. Welcome to James Hardens world.

Curry had more defensive pressure in the NBA Finals with Klay and KD than Harden faces most nights. The defensive schemes you're seeing on Steph at this point (every single game) has no equal ever (other than Curry in the Finals with the kids and G leaguers against Toronto).

[JonBones]

From what I’ve seen, aside from receiving more attention without having the teammates to really punish the defence, they don’t really treat Curry like Curry. Draymond will give up the ball for Curry to make tough 3s and cuts, but a lot of the other teammates kind of just treat him like a really good shooter if he’s only wide open. Kelly Oubre, although I’m a fan seems to be looking for his shots more

[dk1115]

I'm not really sure if it's really all that bad.

Box and 1 defenses every single night (probably not, but let me just exaggerate a bit.)
His running mate is Andrew Wiggins, who is actually below league average in efficiency.
The third option is Kelly Oubre, who has had the worst start in NBA history in 3pt%.
Draymond Green is somehow average 7 points or something.
Wiseman, even though the numbers are solid, lags behind on plays (which is expected), but no one talks about that since he's a rookie.
The best bench player they have is Damion Lee. He's a third stringer or possibly a deep rotation guy.

[Spintown]

Curry +7 (best on the team) in 38 minutes in a 1 point win on a career-worst shooting night: if you're too blind to see his gravity at work in the games, then look at the box score.

Curry -21 (worst on the team) putting up empty stats with little to no impact in a 10 point loss.

It goes both ways pal.

[dhsilv2]

A lot of players are doing that this year. It's a strange start to the season.

Elite players tho ? Seems like his variance is higher than his peers this yr (small sample size )

I don't think there is any player that is being asked to do more though. You probably have to go back to Kobe in 2006 to find a more depleted cast.

The Warriors don't just have a scoring problem when Curry isn't on the court, they have a total IQ problem. Guys can't make simple reads, cuts, picks or passes. And for a player like Curry that is deadly off the ball as well, they can't even find him when he is in optimal catch and shoot territory.

Or take advantage of a double off ball with the right pass to the guy who should be cutting because he got left open. That's the harder play to make as many are looking for curry and missing the guy who's getting open off of Curry's off ball screens and cuts.

[Peregrine01]

That Curry is facing a box and 1 or triangle and 2 every night shows just how little respect defenses have for the rest of the team.

[SeanieWard]

That Curry is facing a box and 1 or triangle and 2 every night shows just how little respect defenses have for the rest of the team.

That too but he's gotten box and 1'd in the finals when surrounded by other stars. It's Steph they fear

And now it just makes sense to let anyone else than him beat you