[WOJ/SHAMS] 4 Way Blockbuster, Harden to BK, Prince and Allen to Cavs, Oladipo, Exum, Picks to Hou, Levert to Ind
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so james harden and mike d'antoni are reunited...forgot about that aspect
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8 picks?
daoneandonly wrote:Utah doesnt have anyhting close value wise to get Dallas to even pick up the phone
Said in reference to Utah's trade assets in a potential Doncic deal.
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Magic_Johnny12 wrote:Paul Pierce to Brooklyn all over again.
If Harden was about 5 years older, yes, this is the age that Allen and KG were trade to Boston, actually he might even be a little younger than they were at that time.
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Cavs need to trade a big to the Hornets, but they need a third team to take Graham or Rozier.
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Re: [WOJ/SHAMS] 4 Way Blockbuster, Harden to BK, Prince and Allen to Cavs, Oladipo, Exum, Picks to Hou, Levert to Ind
CallMeKahn wrote::o 8 picks?
Pick swaps are not really "trading picks". A pick swap is only valuable if the other team is worse than you, and the other team still gets a pick, just a lower one. 4 of the pick are swaps, 21, 23, 25, 27. Who knows about 25 and 27, but very unlikely that BKN would want to swap in 21 or 23.
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We’ll see about the Nets chemistry but they have the talent to win a title for sure.
Love this for the Pacers and Cavs
Love this for the Pacers and Cavs
We the Champs
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og15 wrote:CallMeKahn wrote::o 8 picks?
Pick swaps are not really "trading picks". A pick swap is only valuable if the other team is worse than you, and the other team still gets a pick, just a lower one. 4 of the pick are swaps, 21, 23, 25, 27. Who knows about 25 and 27, but very unlikely that BKN would want to swap in 21 or 23.
It still is, in essence, a pick that is not under the team's control, hence being counted as part of the pick haul.
8 picks.
daoneandonly wrote:Utah doesnt have anyhting close value wise to get Dallas to even pick up the phone
Said in reference to Utah's trade assets in a potential Doncic deal.
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Love it for Indiana, Cleveland.
Like it for Houston quite a bit. Victor is going to walk at the end of the season so they have to trade him probably. Could get some extra value for him from a team like Miami if it comes down to it.
Brooklyn....
As many other have said, the defense is already pretty bad and now you add James Harden into the mix. Then you factor in the fact that Kyrie Irving will be on the same team as James Harden.
THEN you consider all the depth that Brooklyn just lost.
THEN you remember that DeAndre Jordan is now the main center on the team.
THEN you look at all the picks that they gave in the trade for a team that if things go off the rails, it will fly into outer space.
It will be interesting to watch if nothing else.
Like it for Houston quite a bit. Victor is going to walk at the end of the season so they have to trade him probably. Could get some extra value for him from a team like Miami if it comes down to it.
Brooklyn....
As many other have said, the defense is already pretty bad and now you add James Harden into the mix. Then you factor in the fact that Kyrie Irving will be on the same team as James Harden.
THEN you consider all the depth that Brooklyn just lost.
THEN you remember that DeAndre Jordan is now the main center on the team.
THEN you look at all the picks that they gave in the trade for a team that if things go off the rails, it will fly into outer space.
It will be interesting to watch if nothing else.
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Houston turned down Simmons/Thybulle/Picks?
I guess they're really banking on those later draft picks/swaps becoming hugely valuable.
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xxSnEaKyPxx wrote:Cavs need to trade a big to the Hornets, but they need a third team to take Graham or Rozier.
Clippers are likely looking to swap out Williams for another guard, but not really sure how they would make it work. Don't know much about Graham's game.
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Nets still have the same amount of hair. They replaced Allen's afro with Hardens beard
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Houston turned down Simmons/Thybulle/Picks?
I guess they're really banking on those later draft picks/swaps becoming hugely valuable.
Also, Wall and Simmons would be a tough pairing.
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Jkam31 wrote:gmoney411 wrote:xBulletproof wrote:
They'll all be 25+ picks that NBA teams trade sometimes just to preserve cap space. These picks 90% of the time are nothing.
Maybe. But the Nets might only have a 1.5 year window. If they can't get to the finals this year or next things could get ugly. KD/Harden/Kyrie are all FAs after next year. It's a team with no leaders and no defense. I like the gamble on the picks.
Hahah you think KD/Harden did resign even if they don’t win a ring stop it man there friends and even besides that they don’t have a threat be them in the East
Russ and Harden are friends and Russ wanted out. Harden has wanted to play with a lot of stars and it's gone poorly each time when the team didn't win. So yes, I think there is a chance one or both don't re-sign if they don't even make it to the finals this year or next. And being such a bad defensive team is going to make it hard for them to take advantage of teams like the 6ers and Bucks who struggle when you can marginalize Simmons and Giannis. I'm a huge Harden fan and supporter but I've seen too many good situations go bad with him to say things can't fall apart fast. And those situations didn't involve Kyrie the sage.
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og15 wrote:Magic_Johnny12 wrote:Paul Pierce to Brooklyn all over again.
If Harden was about 5 years older, yes, this is the age that Allen and KG were trade to Boston, actually he might even be a little younger than they were at that time.
People keep bringing up this nonsensical comparison.
Pierce and KG were 36 and 37, respectively, when they joined the Nets.
Harden and KD are 31 and 32. They are also both former MVPs (Pierce was not).
The two situations aren't even remotely similar.
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Jkam31 wrote:Ballerhogger wrote:narmerguy wrote:
AD would feast for sure, but the Lakers aren't an incredible 3-point shooting team and the Nets would be similar to the 2015-2019 Warriors in the pace that they can score. I'm just not convinced the Lakers can keep up even if AD is going to get his. Shutting down two guys, especially 1 past his prime, is doable. Shutting down 3 scorers all in their prime who can shoot from distance, score inside, hit free throws, etc? Seems like a heavy ask, and AD would be gassed from his offensive load.
We plenty of bodies to throw at KD and Harden. Defensivley we will be fine. It will be intrestng to see the contrasting styles play in 7 game sereis. The nets biggest openenats are the heat and 76ers who have bigs as well and scorers
Didnt y’all have to send two guys at Harden every play to even contain him in the bubble?
Sort of but this year we better defensively
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Jkam31 wrote:DTP wrote:Welcome to the NBA where you can be a complete jerk to your employer and teammates and get exactly what you want. I wish one day some owner....my bad "governor" would grow some damn balls.
Yo can we ban this guy for being racist!! Don’t ever use the word owner again
Gonna mess around and make Kyrie take more time off.
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Rockets some fools. Why would you reward this bitch of a player?
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First Step wrote:Wow, Levert and who?
Harden required to jog to Brooklyn to shed the pounds, per sources.
Rockets got hosed. Picks in the late 1st round and Oladipo for an ATG?
The Nets gave the Rockets 8 years worth of picks and swaps. The Nets aren't going to be a dominant team for the next 8 years. Later on some of those picks are going to be good.