Hard to Believe Ainge will Make any Move Soon Trade Thread

[Tatumfor2]

Heartbeat in a heart beat eh? Thank the heavens you are not our gm. We have the leverage not the wolves brown alne can get more than Kat

Nah lol.

I would rather keep Smart in this hypothetical scenerio that won’t happen. But Jaylen and a first for Towns? Easy yes.

KAT wouldn't even be our first option, which would free him up to work more on defence imo. Tatum, Kat, Kemba, Smart if possible and Tucker?

[keevsnick1]

Kemba to a third team
Third team sends some asset to Washington
Pritchard, Romeo, Nesmith, 3 Boston Firsts, 2 pick swaps

Smart / Teague
Beal
Brown / Semi
Tatum / Grant
Rob Williams / Theis / Thompson

If Rob can emerge as even an average starting center that's pretty stacked

That's a huge offer. Arguably more than the next just gave up. Is Beal really that much better than Walker? Not being snarky, I only watch Cs games and the finals so I've only seen him play a handful of times. Seems to me we can only trade in all our picks like that one time, so we better make sure we get the right guy.

That move is an all in kill shot type deal, so is he worth that? In a vacuum absolutely no way. but the caveat is your giving all that away so you can keep Jaylen brown so it’s essentially a beal and brown trade deal. He also re- signs so you’re getting a 28 yr old in his prime locked up for 4 years paired with a 23 and 24 year old and creating a super team.

It’s all moot because there’s like a 2% chance it happens but yea I mean to pair beal with the jays that’s the price it’ll take

ya this is basically the deal I'm talking about. Ideally Kemba comes back and looks REALLY good and/or Pritchard/Nesmith/Langford play really well the second half of this year and boost their value so you can give up less of the young players/pick swaps group (plus Beal will be an expiring this offseason, so his value would be deflated) but I think if you can make a Smart/Beal/Brown/Tatum core thats the move.

Of course it all depends on Beal making it to the offseason, since i think Kemba will need to prove he's healthy this year before you can flip him for value (also its easier to move him into a team's cap space).

[keevsnick1]

Heartbeat in a heart beat eh? Thank the heavens you are not our gm. We have the leverage not the wolves brown alne can get more than Kat

Nah lol.

I would rather keep Smart in this hypothetical scenerio that won’t happen. But Jaylen and a first for Towns? Easy yes.

I'm not trying to call you out because I know YOU know this, but for everybody else....

Towns has this year AND three more years on his deal. MIN has no reason to even entertain trading him until the offseason AFTER next offseason.

[Bostondave]

Not a Harden thread in sight. And that's a good thing. Let him go and wreck the Nets. Hogging the ball and all the snacks.

[Feed Your Head]

Heartbeat in a heart beat eh? Thank the heavens you are not our gm. We have the leverage not the wolves brown alne can get more than Kat

Nah lol.

I would rather keep Smart in this hypothetical scenerio that won’t happen. But Jaylen and a first for Towns? Easy yes.

I'm not trying to call you out because I know YOU know this, but for everybody else....

Towns has this year AND three more years on his deal. MIN has no reason to even entertain trading him until the offseason AFTER next offseason.

Agreed, Towns isn’t going anywhere for at least a season. Just filling the dead space, post Harden to Nets.

[Edug27]

Y’all really think Boston is trading Kemba?? Is this where we are going now??

[keevsnick1]

Nah lol.

I would rather keep Smart in this hypothetical scenerio that won’t happen. But Jaylen and a first for Towns? Easy yes.

I'm not trying to call you out because I know YOU know this, but for everybody else....

Towns has this year AND three more years on his deal. MIN has no reason to even entertain trading him until the offseason AFTER next offseason.

Agreed, Towns isn’t going anywhere for at least a season. Just filling the dead space, post Harden to Nets.

Fair enough. Its good we at least have the TPE so that we can throw out deals for literally all but like 30 NBA players without having to salary match.

As opposed to last year when every fake Celtics trade idea ended with "they don't have matching salary."

[MagicBagley18]

That's a huge offer. Arguably more than the next just gave up. Is Beal really that much better than Walker? Not being snarky, I only watch Cs games and the finals so I've only seen him play a handful of times. Seems to me we can only trade in all our picks like that one time, so we better make sure we get the right guy.

That move is an all in kill shot type deal, so is he worth that? In a vacuum absolutely no way. but the caveat is your giving all that away so you can keep Jaylen brown so it’s essentially a beal and brown trade deal. He also re- signs so you’re getting a 28 yr old in his prime locked up for 4 years paired with a 23 and 24 year old and creating a super team.

It’s all moot because there’s like a 2% chance it happens but yea I mean to pair beal with the jays that’s the price it’ll take

ya this is basically the deal I'm talking about. Ideally Kemba comes back and looks REALLY good and/or Pritchard/Nesmith/Langford play really well the second half of this year and boost their value so you can give up less of the young players/pick swaps group (plus Beal will be an expiring this offseason, so his value would be deflated) but I think if you can make a Smart/Beal/Brown/Tatum core thats the move.

Of course it all depends on Beal making it to the offseason, since i think Kemba will need to prove he's healthy this year before you can flip him for value (also its easier to move him into a team's cap space).

Yup. Agreed with it all pretty much. Except no way we get to keep smart in that scenario but I mean that’s to be expected.

[fallguy]

Y’all really think Boston is trading Kemba?? Is this where we are going now??

Yeah, I think they need to trade Kemba this summer.

[CeltsfanSinceBirth]

Y’all really think Boston is trading Kemba?? Is this where we are going now??

Lol. They tried trading him for Jrue Holiday.

[fallguy]

Ideally, I'd like to send Kemba to a star-starved team for 2-3 younger guys and/or picks, which would then eventually be packaged up with additional assets for a star to complement Tatum/Brown. All of this could happen (ideally would happen) in the next 18 months.

[SichtingLives]

Kemba looks pretty good as a 3rd option with Brown taking the leap. Upgrade to a legit starting C (25 mpg variety not a psuedo star offensive option) + a vet 3&d wing and we're in business. How, I don't know this is why Ainge gets paid I assume

[Homerclease]

Kemba looks pretty good as a 3rd option with Brown taking the leap. Upgrade to a legit starting C (25 mpg variety not a psuedo star offensive option) + a vet 3&d wing and we're in business. How, I don't know this is why Ainge gets paid I assume

We have no idea how Kemba is going to look after this latest knee issue. If he looks like the Kemba we saw in the playoffs then he’s a liability.

[djFan71]

He needs to play with the Warriors. Stop putting this guy outside. Put him inside with space to operate.

Who says no?

PHI: Beal for Simmons
GSW: Simmons for Wiseman, Oubre, Poole, MIN pick
WAS: Min pick, Wiseman, Oubre, Poole for Beal

Puts the Ws tax situation into full-on brutality, but i like it.

Yeah, that's pretty rough. Bite bullet this year and trade one of Green/Wiggins in the summer. Or, really, just do this deal in the summer. They ain't winning this year, and Doc wants to try with Simmons/Embiid, WAS/Beal seem to be OK. So, there's not a huge urgency unless something changes.

[SichtingLives]

Kemba looks pretty good as a 3rd option with Brown taking the leap. Upgrade to a legit starting C (25 mpg variety not a psuedo star offensive option) + a vet 3&d wing and we're in business. How, I don't know this is why Ainge gets paid I assume

We have no idea how Kemba is going to look after this latest knee issue. If he looks like the Kemba we saw in the playoffs then he’s a liability.

If he looks like that, he;s cooked. Especially after all this time and babying the injuries. Like he came into the bubble hurt even after having the whole summer off., not good. I'm counting on him coming back healthy, at least short term. But ultimately yeah we can't ride with him long term.

[Ernest]

Unless we can work some magic with that TPE- Kemba is the contract to trade. I mean you can look at it value wise bu there is also the contract. If we only use a small part or no part of that TPE then we really can't just let Kemba expire and walk. Then we would have no way to sign a FA to add to our team. Its a real skill to manage contracts. Remember the days of expiring contracts? Just waiting out Thoe and Wally and Raef.

[Bohemian]

Kemba is not being traded. We need a point guard with the first shoot mentality of the Jays. Kemba is an all star, and if he is healthy he is a perfect fit.

[Fencer reregistered]

It would be cool to add a player who's been an all-star for the past few seasons.

How many assets would we have to add to Kemba to get one in trade?

[cl2117]

It would be cool to add a player who's been an all-star for the past few seasons.

How many assets would we have to add to Kemba to get one in trade?

Oladipo is your man then and we wouldn't even need to move Kemba or multiple assets probably.

All-star 2018 and 2019. One year rental and then he goes to Miami (so only Miami is likely competition for his services).

Fits perfectly under the hardcap and into the TPE at $21m. Houston probably lets him go for our 2021 first and the TPE (throw in Carsen or Javonte to clear the roster spot).

[Fencer reregistered]

It would be cool to add a player who's been an all-star for the past few seasons.

How many assets would we have to add to Kemba to get one in trade?

Oladipo is your man then and we wouldn't even need to move Kemba or multiple assets probably.

All-star 2018 and 2019. One year rental and then he goes to Miami (so only Miami is likely competition for his services).

Fits perfectly under the hardcap and into the TPE at $21m. Houston probably lets him go for our 2021 first and the TPE (throw in Carsen or Javonte to clear the roster spot).

Actually, I was being sarcastic, because Kemba fits the criterion himself.