Around the NBA, 2020/21 Edition

[PrimeThyme]

what's done is done....you're only hurting yourselves by looking back wondering what could've been

Except for the fact that it's not done. The front office who made that pick is still in place. This isn't looking back on the Oladipo trade and complaining about a GM who is long gone. This pick is still very relevant && this front office is going to be evaluated as this team isn't where it should be, partly due to the failures they have made with their draft selections.

[KillMonger]

what's done is done....you're only hurting yourselves by looking back wondering what could've been

Except for the fact that it's not done. The front office who made that pick is still in place. This isn't looking back on the Oladipo trade and complaining about a GM who is long gone. This pick is still very relevant && this front office is going to be evaluated as this team isn't where it should be, partly due to the failures they have made with their draft selections.

evaluated by who? our ownership who is fine with just making the playoffs and 1st round exits? look hitting on draft picks are important but you can't dismiss the elephant in the room......luck

[basketballRob]

Don’t look now

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Orlando needs to find a way to get this dude. He’s buried on the bench but would be starting right in Orlando

Imagine having NAW and SGA instead of Bamba and Okeke.

Yeah and Maxey or Anchiuwa.

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[VFX]

what's done is done....you're only hurting yourselves by looking back wondering what could've been

Except for the fact that it's not done. The front office who made that pick is still in place. This isn't looking back on the Oladipo trade and complaining about a GM who is long gone. This pick is still very relevant && this front office is going to be evaluated as this team isn't where it should be, partly due to the failures they have made with their draft selections.

evaluated by who? our ownership who is fine with just making the playoffs and 1st round exits? look hitting on draft picks are important but you can't dismiss the elephant in the room......luck

The issue is that a majority of this board criticized them for passing on both of those players for injured projects. Many of us were accurate that they took lesser players that made no sense with the construction of the roster. Nobody blames Hennigan for not drafting Giannis, that’s not the same thing. Both SGA and NAW were picks that not only made sense, but were obviously desired by many here. This FO sucks at evaluating draft talent appropriately to the roster based on their self imposed goals.

Why would they constantly claim to be “playoffs or bust”, forgo addressing any of the glaring issues in the draft, and then roll out a core of players that obviously can’t accomplish that whim. None of that has to do with luck.

[KillMonger]

Except for the fact that it's not done. The front office who made that pick is still in place. This isn't looking back on the Oladipo trade and complaining about a GM who is long gone. This pick is still very relevant && this front office is going to be evaluated as this team isn't where it should be, partly due to the failures they have made with their draft selections.

evaluated by who? our ownership who is fine with just making the playoffs and 1st round exits? look hitting on draft picks are important but you can't dismiss the elephant in the room......luck

The issue is that a majority of this board criticized them for passing on both of those players for injured projects. Many of us were accurate that they took lesser players that made no sense with the construction of the roster. Nobody blames Hennigan for not drafting Giannis, that’s not the same thing. Both SGA and NAW were picks that not only made sense, but were obviously desired by many here. This FO sucks at evaluating draft talent appropriately to the roster based on their self imposed goals.

Why would they constantly claim to be “playoffs or bust”, forgo addressing any of the glaring issues in the draft, and then roll out a core of players that obviously can’t accomplish that whim. None of that has to do with luck.

Well the jury is still out on whether ultimately chuma was the wrong choice, they followed their own draft plan while addressing an issue, people forget that chuma was a near 40% 3pt shooter in college.....i still can't say they're wrong because it's still early there is still a lot of time to evaluate down the line.....when it comes to the draft luck is probably the biggest part of it imo, it's a crapshoot, a gamble.....that's what the draft always is, the only thing you can do is try to increase your chance at the top because more often than not those are where the best players reside.....it has everything to do with luck....now if you're talking about their approach and mentality about the draft and team building then yeah that's something different

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evaluated by who? our ownership who is fine with just making the playoffs and 1st round exits? look hitting on draft picks are important but you can't dismiss the elephant in the room......luck

The issue is that a majority of this board criticized them for passing on both of those players for injured projects. Many of us were accurate that they took lesser players that made no sense with the construction of the roster. Nobody blames Hennigan for not drafting Giannis, that’s not the same thing. Both SGA and NAW were picks that not only made sense, but were obviously desired by many here. This FO sucks at evaluating draft talent appropriately to the roster based on their self imposed goals.

Why would they constantly claim to be “playoffs or bust”, forgo addressing any of the glaring issues in the draft, and then roll out a core of players that obviously can’t accomplish that whim. None of that has to do with luck.

Well the jury is still out on whether ultimately chuma was the wrong choice, they followed their own draft plan while addressing an issue, people forget that chuma was a near 40% 3pt shooter in college.....i still can't say they're wrong because it's still early there is still a lot of time to evaluate down the line.....when it comes to the draft luck is probably the biggest part of it imo, it's a crapshoot, a gamble.....that's what the draft always is, the only thing you can do is try to increase your chance at the top because more often than not those are where the best players reside.....it has everything to do with luck....now if you're talking about their approach and mentality about the draft and team building then yeah that's something different

That’s exactly what I’m talking about. No, the draft isn’t 100% luck. You can’t draft a backup Center and an injured undersized (albeit skilled) pf and expect them to have the same impact NAW and SGA on a healthy amount of minutes. That’s called being aware. Their self imposed “must make the playoffs with a lacking roster” precedent is exactly why their draft strategy makes even less sense.

What does luck have to do with being aware of available prospects, opportunity outcome, and positional asset value? You make it sound like they haven’t spent millions of dollars on scouting and gathering data. But yeah.... luck.

Some organizations sure do get lucky a lot more than others.

[SOUL]

Only rookie I wish we had at the moment is LaMelo. Careers aren't based off of the best of 20 games.

[pepe1991]

Only rookie I wish we had at the moment is LaMelo. Careers aren't based off of the best of 20 games.

Haliburton...

12,6 ppg
5,7 apg
3 rpg
54% FG, 54% for 3, 82% FTs

3,5 BPM, great on ball defender.
Pretty much he is everything scouts hoped from Lonzo, but never got.

I can see him being 20-8-5 player for years to come. Just all around great player.

[SOUL]

Only rookie I wish we had at the moment is LaMelo. Careers aren't based off of the best of 20 games.

Haliburton...

12,6 ppg
5,7 apg
3 rpg
54% FG, 54% for 3, 82% FTs

3,5 BPM, great on ball defender.
Pretty much he is everything scouts hoped from Lonzo, but never got.

I can see him being 20-8-5 player for years to come. Just all around great player.

Forgot about him! But yeah Haliburton has looked nice. I just meant at our position or later (even though LaMelo wasn't), I'd have to see a few years down the line. I know people were comparing JJ to his counterparts early on and now everybody would've taken JJ over the other options around him.

[drsd]

Looks like the Celts have at least: Tacko Fall, Aaron Nesmith, Payton Pritchard, Marcus Smart, Jeff Teague, Tristan Thompson, Tremont Waters, and Grant Williams. Any of these four could be cleared as well: Jaylen Brown, Javonte Green, Semi Ojeleye, Daniel Theis.

So the Magic is now in Boston. Bamba is not.


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[pepe1991]

Looks like the Celts have at least: Tacko Fall, Aaron Nesmith, Payton Pritchard, Marcus Smart, Jeff Teague, Tristan Thompson, Tremont Waters, and Grant Williams. Any of these four could be cleared as well: Jaylen Brown, Javonte Green, Semi Ojeleye, Daniel Theis.

So the Magic is now in Boston. Bamba is not.


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Bamba is in covid protocol due contact with somebody
you can't even make this crap up any more

[Xatticus]

Only rookie I wish we had at the moment is LaMelo. Careers aren't based off of the best of 20 games.

Haliburton...

12,6 ppg
5,7 apg
3 rpg
54% FG, 54% for 3, 82% FTs

3,5 BPM, great on ball defender.
Pretty much he is everything scouts hoped from Lonzo, but never got.

I can see him being 20-8-5 player for years to come. Just all around great player.

I don't know that he'll ever score 20 points per game. He's just too limited off the dribble. He scores on floaters and layups out of the pick and roll or on catch-and-shoot jumpers. It's tough to get your usage up if you can't shoot off the dribble. Not that it really matters though. I think he will be fine at the offensive end. You don't have to score to be a good offensive player. He's a pass-first guy that just makes good decisions, which is really what offense is all about. It helps that he has really good roll men in Sacramento. Bagley, Whiteside, and Holmes are all mobile and easy to feed. We don't have that, so I'm skeptical that he would look as good playing for us.

There are a bunch of guys that I'd love to have out of this draft and Haliburton is among them.

[MagicFan101]

https://hashtagbasketball.com/nba-rookie-rankings

This is a fun tool for tracking rookies.

It defaults to the algo of the developers but you can play with stats you care about and see how that changes the rookie rankings. Updates daily.

[PrimeThyme]

Idk, I’d quite like to have Maxey on this team too. && he was someone we could have had.

[pepe1991]

Same old Hawks... All their additions are hurt. Maybe after he can be traded they would do Galo + young asset for Gordon....

[tiderulz]

evaluated by who? our ownership who is fine with just making the playoffs and 1st round exits? look hitting on draft picks are important but you can't dismiss the elephant in the room......luck

The issue is that a majority of this board criticized them for passing on both of those players for injured projects. Many of us were accurate that they took lesser players that made no sense with the construction of the roster. Nobody blames Hennigan for not drafting Giannis, that’s not the same thing. Both SGA and NAW were picks that not only made sense, but were obviously desired by many here. This FO sucks at evaluating draft talent appropriately to the roster based on their self imposed goals.

Why would they constantly claim to be “playoffs or bust”, forgo addressing any of the glaring issues in the draft, and then roll out a core of players that obviously can’t accomplish that whim. None of that has to do with luck.

Well the jury is still out on whether ultimately chuma was the wrong choice, they followed their own draft plan while addressing an issue, people forget that chuma was a near 40% 3pt shooter in college.....i still can't say they're wrong because it's still early there is still a lot of time to evaluate down the line.....when it comes to the draft luck is probably the biggest part of it imo, it's a crapshoot, a gamble.....that's what the draft always is, the only thing you can do is try to increase your chance at the top because more often than not those are where the best players reside.....it has everything to do with luck....now if you're talking about their approach and mentality about the draft and team building then yeah that's something different

we'll have to see, but Lonzo Ball was a 41% 3 pt shooter in college too

[KillMonger]

The issue is that a majority of this board criticized them for passing on both of those players for injured projects. Many of us were accurate that they took lesser players that made no sense with the construction of the roster. Nobody blames Hennigan for not drafting Giannis, that’s not the same thing. Both SGA and NAW were picks that not only made sense, but were obviously desired by many here. This FO sucks at evaluating draft talent appropriately to the roster based on their self imposed goals.

Why would they constantly claim to be “playoffs or bust”, forgo addressing any of the glaring issues in the draft, and then roll out a core of players that obviously can’t accomplish that whim. None of that has to do with luck.

Well the jury is still out on whether ultimately chuma was the wrong choice, they followed their own draft plan while addressing an issue, people forget that chuma was a near 40% 3pt shooter in college.....i still can't say they're wrong because it's still early there is still a lot of time to evaluate down the line.....when it comes to the draft luck is probably the biggest part of it imo, it's a crapshoot, a gamble.....that's what the draft always is, the only thing you can do is try to increase your chance at the top because more often than not those are where the best players reside.....it has everything to do with luck....now if you're talking about their approach and mentality about the draft and team building then yeah that's something different

we'll have to see, but Lonzo Ball was a 41% 3 pt shooter in college too

with a janky azz shot nobody thought would work in the nba

[pepe1991]

Colin Sexston is f*** beast.
Another player we didn't draft

[Blue_and_Whte]

OT but has anyone been to the Rockets board? They do not post a lot. The even before the whole Harden fiasco.

[CZ Eddie]

Porter Jr got traded for nothing. For a "heavily protected second round pick" that is said to be unlikely to ever convey.
I'd have been willing to give Cleveland an unprotected second rounder for Kevin just to see if he can be repaired.
https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/30756372/source-cleveland-cavaliers-trading-kevin-porter-jr-houston-rockets-second-round-pick