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[T-d0t]

At 6 yrs, Yanks can have him

[rarefind]

At 6 yrs, Yanks can have him

It is 6 years at 12m more than what we would've paid him over 4.

I would have had no problem with us doing 6/90. To reconcile it in our heads, that would be like paying him 2/12 after the initial 4 years.

Anyway, he would've been nice but is definitely a guy that can regress quite quick too... certainly a degree of risk there.

[guvernator]

At 6 yrs, Yanks can have him

It is 6 years at 12m more than what we would've paid him over 4.

I would have had no problem with us doing 6/90. To reconcile it in our heads, that would be like paying him 2/12 after the initial 4 years.

Anyway, he would've been nice but is definitely a guy that can regress quite quick too... certainly a degree of risk there.

6/90 is the price to stay with the yankees. For the jays it was probably 6/120.

[rarefind]

At 6 yrs, Yanks can have him

It is 6 years at 12m more than what we would've paid him over 4.

I would have had no problem with us doing 6/90. To reconcile it in our heads, that would be like paying him 2/12 after the initial 4 years.

Anyway, he would've been nice but is definitely a guy that can regress quite quick too... certainly a degree of risk there.

6/90 is the price to stay with the yankees. For the jays it was probably 6/120.

Yeah, we certainly weren't going to get him by matching what the Yankees offered.

[Schad]

6 years, $90m isn't really a better financial deal for LaMahieu than 4 years, $78m, which is a pretty aggressive bid on our part (though one I'd have done). Sounds like the intent there is just to lower the Yankees' tax burden by spreading the money out.

That's the first domino, so the market should start to move now.

[T-d0t]

6 years, $90m isn't really a better financial deal for LaMahieu than 4 years, $78m, which is a pretty aggressive bid on our part (though one I'd have done). Sounds like the intent there is just to lower the Yankees' tax burden by spreading the money out.

That's the first domino, so the market should start to move now.

Who do you predict we sign?

[rotty]

Once again we lose out on Lemahieu because they didnt want to pay him enough. The yankees who already have a disgusting payroll ponied up and offered what they needed.

[rotty]

Can we now try to get Bauer or Kluber or some other starter...

[Schad]

Once again we lose out on Lemahieu because they didnt want to pay him enough. The yankees who already have a disgusting payroll ponied up and offered what they needed.

The Yankees offered a substantially lower AAV than we did. His deal is longer specifically because the Yankees didn't want to have a more disgusting payroll: the extra year for basically no money is a means by LaMahieu to help the Yankees minimize their tax burden, because deferred payments still count against the tax but spreading salary over a longer term does not.

It's like one of those old-school NHL deals where the player gets paid through their 83rd birthday for cap purposes.

[Schad]

Who do you predict we sign?

Assuming Springer takes something within the realm of reason, I don't see a hell of a lot of competition for him. The Mets can make noise about not being out, but the word is that Cohen doesn't want to pay the tax this year or next, and unless they're going for a one-year-only team that implodes comically in 2022, that pretty well precludes Springer unless he takes a massive discount.

[rotty]

Once again we lose out on Lemahieu because they didnt want to pay him enough. The yankees who already have a disgusting payroll ponied up and offered what they needed.

The Yankees offered a substantially lower AAV than we did. His deal is longer specifically because the Yankees didn't want to have a more disgusting payroll: the extra year for basically no money is a means by LaMahieu to help the Yankees minimize their tax burden, because deferred payments still count against the tax but spreading salary over a longer term does not.

It's like one of those old-school NHL deals where the player gets paid through their 83rd birthday for cap purposes.

I get that but is it possible that he wanted the same amount of term but a higher aav and overall contract to sign here and they didnt want to offer the money? Because it seems like he wanted to sign one last contract before retiring (he would be 38 at the end of the deal) And honestly i would be willing to over pay for a guy like him who finished 3rd in mvp voting

[rarefind]

Once again we lose out on Lemahieu because they didnt want to pay him enough. The yankees who already have a disgusting payroll ponied up and offered what they needed.

The Yankees offered a substantially lower AAV than we did. His deal is longer specifically because the Yankees didn't want to have a more disgusting payroll: the extra year for basically no money is a means by LaMahieu to help the Yankees minimize their tax burden, because deferred payments still count against the tax but spreading salary over a longer term does not.

It's like one of those old-school NHL deals where the player gets paid through their 83rd birthday for cap purposes.

I get that but is it possible that he wanted the same amount of term but a higher aav and overall contract to sign here and they didnt want to offer the money? Because it seems like he wanted to sign one last contract before retiring (he would be 38 at the end of the deal) And honestly i would be willing to over pay for a guy like him who finished 3rd in mvp voting

The assumption that the Blue Jays number and the Yankees number to hit was the same, is wrong. He clearly valued staying in New York more than $.

4/78 is a much better deal than 6/90. He would also be betting on himself that age 36 he could garner interest greater than 2/12 to catch him up to the 90m he'll make over this period.

He wanted to stay in NY and did them a solid to help avoid luxury tax implications. I wouldn't lose too much sleep on this despite it being a disappointment.

[Schad]

I get that but is it possible that he wanted the same amount of term but a higher aav and overall contract to sign here and they didnt want to offer the money? Because it seems like he wanted to sign one last contract before retiring (he would be 38 at the end of the deal) And honestly i would be willing to over pay for a guy like him who finished 3rd in mvp voting

I mean, if we spend $90m+ over 4, maybe? Hard to say, really. But LaMahieu's taking less money here in a practical sense even if the topline figure is higher: he wouldn't have to make much in an age 36 contract in order for the Jays' offer to be the best financially.

[LBJSeizedMyID]

6 years, $90m isn't really a better financial deal for LaMahieu than 4 years, $78m, which is a pretty aggressive bid on our part (though one I'd have done). Sounds like the intent there is just to lower the Yankees' tax burden by spreading the money out.

That's the first domino, so the market should start to move now.

Who do you predict we sign?

If the Jays did offer 4 years $78M can't fault ownership, LeMahieu simply wanted to play for the Yankees.

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