Official Anthony Edwards Thread

[AbeVigodaLive]

Twin towers have won how many championships in NBA history. Vs how many small ball championships? Even in the modern NBA with the focus on distance shooting and pace, small ball still doesn’t get it done. Rebounding is still too important as is paint defense. The wolves don’t even have the proper personnel to execute small ball properly.

If we don't have the proper personnel to fully execute it yet then HOW can you say it doesn't get it done here? The roster is still being built.

Almost all the deck furniture has been rearranged from a team that went 32 - 37 after Butler was traded.

The team is literally ALL Rosas' guys. And the team has gotten worse.

The excuses of a poorly constructed roster can no longer be blamed on the previous regime. If certain guys aren't right for this roster... that is 100% on Rosas. He's the one who JUST brought them here. Why bring them in if they're poor fits?

He's getting paid handsomely to know whether Rubio and Russell can play together... whether Hernangomez can stand up as a starting PF... whether Edwards really is the prize of the 2020 draft... whether Culver can shoot free throws better than most 8th graders.

[winforlose]

Twin towers have won how many championships in NBA history. Vs how many small ball championships? Even in the modern NBA with the focus on distance shooting and pace, small ball still doesn’t get it done. Rebounding is still too important as is paint defense. The wolves don’t even have the proper personnel to execute small ball properly.

If we don't have the proper personnel to fully execute it yet then HOW can you say it doesn't get it done here? The roster is still being built.

Let’s be generous and assume you are correct (other people made my point for me about this being Rosas roster.) Where has small ball been truly successful? You just saw the Rockets fail so spectacularly at it that they had to blow up their team. Rebounding matters. Defense matters. Small ball sacrifices both in the name of offensive production and pace. The problem is we lack both. When the head coach comes out and says well we are not physical enough, that means we are playing undersized. Ryan has been throwing Rosas under the bus for weeks trying to say I cannot win if my team is to small to rebound or play defense.

[Merc_Porto]

SFbaybum is on a mission.

[Klomp]

Twin towers have won how many championships in NBA history. Vs how many small ball championships? Even in the modern NBA with the focus on distance shooting and pace, small ball still doesn’t get it done. Rebounding is still too important as is paint defense. The wolves don’t even have the proper personnel to execute small ball properly.

If we don't have the proper personnel to fully execute it yet then HOW can you say it doesn't get it done here? The roster is still being built.

Almost all the deck furniture has been rearranged from a team that went 32 - 37 after Butler was traded.

The team is literally ALL Rosas' guys. And the team has gotten worse.

The excuses of a poorly constructed roster can no longer be blamed on the previous regime. If certain guys aren't right for this roster... that is 100% on Rosas. He's the one who JUST brought them here. Why bring them in if they're poor fits?

He's getting paid handsomely to know whether Rubio and Russell can play together... whether Hernangomez can stand up as a starting PF... whether Edwards really is the prize of the 2020 draft... whether Culver can shoot free throws better than most 8th graders.

I never blamed it on Thibs. Just because they're guys he brought in doesn't mean they're the right guys. They're better fits than were here before but doesn't mean they're the best fits.

[mplsfonz23]

Twin towers have won how many championships in NBA history. Vs how many small ball championships? Even in the modern NBA with the focus on distance shooting and pace, small ball still doesn’t get it done. Rebounding is still too important as is paint defense. The wolves don’t even have the proper personnel to execute small ball properly.

If we don't have the proper personnel to fully execute it yet then HOW can you say it doesn't get it done here? The roster is still being built.

Almost all the deck furniture has been rearranged from a team that went 32 - 37 after Butler was traded.

The team is literally ALL Rosas' guys. And the team has gotten worse.

The excuses of a poorly constructed roster can no longer be blamed on the previous regime. If certain guys aren't right for this roster... that is 100% on Rosas. He's the one who JUST brought them here. Why bring them in if they're poor fits?

He's getting paid handsomely to know whether Rubio and Russell can play together... whether Hernangomez can stand up as a starting PF... whether Edwards really is the prize of the 2020 draft... whether Culver can shoot free throws better than most 8th graders.

Not sure I agree. Not to go into details, but what did he have to work with?
Cap hell and Covid-19.
This team is more poised for the future, than win now Thib's regime.

[AbeVigodaLive]

If we don't have the proper personnel to fully execute it yet then HOW can you say it doesn't get it done here? The roster is still being built.

Almost all the deck furniture has been rearranged from a team that went 32 - 37 after Butler was traded.

The team is literally ALL Rosas' guys. And the team has gotten worse.

The excuses of a poorly constructed roster can no longer be blamed on the previous regime. If certain guys aren't right for this roster... that is 100% on Rosas. He's the one who JUST brought them here. Why bring them in if they're poor fits?

He's getting paid handsomely to know whether Rubio and Russell can play together... whether Hernangomez can stand up as a starting PF... whether Edwards really is the prize of the 2020 draft... whether Culver can shoot free throws better than most 8th graders.

Not sure I agree. Not to go into details, but what did he have to work with?
Cap hell and Covid-19.
This team is more poised for the future, than win now Thib's regime.

He had the #11 pick and Saric. He chose Culver... who's a SG who shoots 47% on free throws.
He had the #1 pick. He chose Edwards, who's... struggling. Sure, he can improve. But so can EVERY rookie taken after him, even those who have been MUCH better than he has so far.
He effectively traded one year of James Johnson for two years of Rubio... who's proven to be a terrible fit with Russell.
He drafted two other HR prospects in the draft. One might never play in the NBA. The other has questions after being benched by a terrible college team. (We'll find out more with McDaniels tonight though.)
He traded Wiggins for Russell... AND... a potential franchise-influencing #1 draft pick.
He traded Covington ($11M) for Beasley ($15M), Hernangomez ($7M) and Vanderbilt ($1.4M). The Wolves have all three locked up for multiple years, making this a foundational trade for the franchise.

With the resigning of Beasley + Hernangomez and sacrificing a #1 pick for Russell and a 2nd rd. pick for Ed Davis... and minimal (0?) cap room... this is it. This is largely the team.

How much are we expecting Beasley to improve? Hernangomez? Culver? Okogie? Russell? Towns?

It's early. But arguably, the only guy Rosas has brought in who has increased his value is Beasley. Hopefully, that changes, so if Rosas wants to keep moving deck furniture, he's not doing so from a place of weakness or desperation.

[Foye]

Twin towers have won how many championships in NBA history. Vs how many small ball championships? Even in the modern NBA with the focus on distance shooting and pace, small ball still doesn’t get it done. Rebounding is still too important as is paint defense. The wolves don’t even have the proper personnel to execute small ball properly.

If we don't have the proper personnel to fully execute it yet then HOW can you say it doesn't get it done here? The roster is still being built.

At what point do you expect to have the proper personnel?
The team is capped out until 2022/23.
The assets on the team aren't particular valuable.

Unless you hit a homerun in the draft, this is a treadmill team for the foreseeable future.
Oh wait, Rosas traded away the 2021 pick.

[AbeVigodaLive]

Twin towers have won how many championships in NBA history. Vs how many small ball championships? Even in the modern NBA with the focus on distance shooting and pace, small ball still doesn’t get it done. Rebounding is still too important as is paint defense. The wolves don’t even have the proper personnel to execute small ball properly.

If we don't have the proper personnel to fully execute it yet then HOW can you say it doesn't get it done here? The roster is still being built.

At what point do you expect to have the proper personnel?
The team is capped out until 2022/23.
The assets on the team aren't particular valuable.

Unless you hit a homerun in the draft, this is a treadmill team for the foreseeable future.
Oh wait, Rosas traded away the 2021 pick.

Geez. It's only going on like two decades...

... Minnesota fans are so impatient.

[Klomp]

Geez. It's only going on like two decades...

... Minnesota fans are so impatient.

Rosas has been running the show for two decades?

[theGreatRC]

Geez. It's only going on like two decades...

... Minnesota fans are so impatient.

Rosas has been running the show for two decades?

You know what he means...We deserve better and consistently suck

[AbeVigodaLive]

Geez. It's only going on like two decades...

... Minnesota fans are so impatient.

Rosas has been running the show for two decades?

You know what he means...We deserve better and consistently suck

It's actually part of the problem. Of course a new GM doesn't really care what happened before his regime. And Rosas made that clear early by ripping the previous regime and talking about this being a significant rebuild that would take years.

I get not making rash moves. And doing what you think is best.

But it's a fine line if you're not acknowledging that it's a fanbase that's heard this song and dance routine more than any other franchise.

[Krapinsky]

Almost all the deck furniture has been rearranged from a team that went 32 - 37 after Butler was traded.

The team is literally ALL Rosas' guys. And the team has gotten worse.

The excuses of a poorly constructed roster can no longer be blamed on the previous regime. If certain guys aren't right for this roster... that is 100% on Rosas. He's the one who JUST brought them here. Why bring them in if they're poor fits?

He's getting paid handsomely to know whether Rubio and Russell can play together... whether Hernangomez can stand up as a starting PF... whether Edwards really is the prize of the 2020 draft... whether Culver can shoot free throws better than most 8th graders.

Not sure I agree. Not to go into details, but what did he have to work with?
Cap hell and Covid-19.
This team is more poised for the future, than win now Thib's regime.

He had the #11 pick and Saric. He chose Culver... who's a SG who shoots 47% on free throws.
He had the #1 pick. He chose Edwards, who's... struggling. Sure, he can improve. But so can EVERY rookie taken after him, even those who have been MUCH better than he has so far.
He effectively traded one year of James Johnson for two years of Rubio... who's proven to be a terrible fit with Russell.
He drafted two other HR prospects in the draft. One might never play in the NBA. The other has questions after being benched by a terrible college team. (We'll find out more with McDaniels tonight though.)
He traded Wiggins for Russell... AND... a potential franchise-influencing #1 draft pick.
He traded Covington ($11M) for Beasley ($15M), Hernangomez ($7M) and Vanderbilt ($1.4M). The Wolves have all three locked up for multiple years, making this a foundational trade for the franchise.

With the resigning of Beasley + Hernangomez and sacrificing a #1 pick for Russell and a 2nd rd. pick for Ed Davis... and minimal (0?) cap room... this is it. This is largely the team.

How much are we expecting Beasley to improve? Hernangomez? Culver? Okogie? Russell? Towns?

It's early. But arguably, the only guy Rosas has brought in who has increased his value is Beasley. Hopefully, that changes, so if Rosas wants to keep moving deck furniture, he's not doing so from a place of weakness or desperation.

I wholeheartedly agree. Rosas is starting to feel like Kahn 2.0 at this point. Hard to come up with a decision of his that looks good in hindsight.

Wish we could start over with Johnson, Covington, Saric, one of Cam Johnson/PJ Wash/Herro, Wiggins, a future 1st, and this past year's first.

[mplsfonz23]

Wish we could start over with Johnson, Covington, Saric, one of Cam Johnson/PJ Wash/Herro, Wiggins, a future 1st, and this past year's first.

Are you saying you still wish we had Wiggins? Or did I read that wrong?

[Jedzz]

If we don't have the proper personnel to fully execute it yet then HOW can you say it doesn't get it done here? The roster is still being built.

Almost all the deck furniture has been rearranged from a team that went 32 - 37 after Butler was traded.

The team is literally ALL Rosas' guys. And the team has gotten worse.

The excuses of a poorly constructed roster can no longer be blamed on the previous regime. If certain guys aren't right for this roster... that is 100% on Rosas. He's the one who JUST brought them here. Why bring them in if they're poor fits?

He's getting paid handsomely to know whether Rubio and Russell can play together... whether Hernangomez can stand up as a starting PF... whether Edwards really is the prize of the 2020 draft... whether Culver can shoot free throws better than most 8th graders.

I never blamed it on Thibs. Just because they're guys he brought in doesn't mean they're the right guys. They're better fits than were here before but doesn't mean they're the best fits.

No they are poor fits, and poor fits stacked on top of poor fits loggjammed together. He's been adding poor fits for his supposed plan since the day he got here. I think because he doesn't plan to hold on to all of them very long and he's just going to keep shuffling the depth for trade filler. However he's showing classic Pobo/GM ego issues when it comes to say his first drafted player ever, etc. Couldn't trade him this offseason because he probably simply wouldn't, but even if was trying he was probably asking too much. I don't care if he wanted to keep him and not give up on him yet, but then don't draft Edwards, don't bring in Rubio, etc etc.

We can go all the way back to his start where he intantly brought in players like Vonleh and Ball and really just refused to get them involved because the team didn't want to use their bigs. That's bringing in players that don't have fit for your scheme. Only time they used Dieng was the month before trading him in order to remind teams he can still play. Also brought in Graham, couldn't shoot in game lights pressure. How was he suppsoed to fit, oh yeah the second story was defense. Then if his defense was so great amd deserving of all the minutes and starters and he was cheap, why wouldn't he have kept him?

So then he brings in Dlo, Beasley. Ok. Come offseason remember you brought them in and don't bring in people to compete for the same role. Because they've already drafted Culver and decided to never give up on Okogie. So stop adding guards nd guards that can't shoot.

Give him an F minus for this offseason, still figuring he can just bring any players he wants in with plans to shake it all up again at the next deadline. you know it's coming. I don't know what kind of values with be left in any of these players by then.

[Rookie-Mistake]

We need to discuss ANT more.

#1 pick. General consensus #1 pick.

I wasn't a fan pre-draft and i still am not from what limited basketball i have seen this year.

Is this Culver mk2? Analytics and potential over actual talent?

[Foye]

He has been terrible.
Saunders needs to cut his minutes and reduce his role.
Take him out whenever he makes a stupid mistake.

Otherwise he will never learn how to play the game the right way.

[ChiefKeith91]

For people saying Wiseman and Ball are better right now because of their situations. Wiseman plays with Steph and Dryamond, he'll learn things way faster with them in his ear everyday. Ball plays in a rotation that fit his style of play of passing (Bridges, Biyombo, Hayward). Edwards looks lost and uninterested at times because he doesn't know what to do at times and isn't allowed to make mistakes like other rookies.

[AbeVigodaLive]

For people saying Wiseman and Ball are better right now because of their situations. Wiseman plays with Steph and Dryamond, he'll learn things way faster with them in his ear everyday. Ball plays in a rotation that fit his style of play of passing (Bridges, Biyombo, Hayward). Edwards looks lost and uninterested at times because he doesn't know what to do at times and isn't allowed to make mistakes like other rookies.

That's simply not true.

Again... he's 3rd in minutes for rookies. And statistically, he's one of the least efficient players in the NBA this season. His volume stats are poor, his advanced stats are off-the-map horrendous.

But he's still averaging more than 25 mpg... he's 3rd on the Wolves in minutes played despite posting the worst advanced stats on a team full of guys struggling.

[packforfreedom]

it's really frustrating to watch him lately. In his first games, I was super excited when he had the ball and now I just think 'oh no'.

[Rookie-Mistake]

He is Culver MK2. Now, is this a coaching and development issue or we literally drafting duds?

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