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Re: Hard to Believe Ainge will Make any Move Soon Trade Thread 

Post#1101 » by Captain_Caveman » Fri Jan 15, 2021 11:06 pm

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Bleeding Green wrote:I wonder if the fact that he plays for the worst franchise in NBA history has any bearing on how he is looked at as soft. Probably not. Probably that he plays more minutes than every C in basketball since he was drafted.


He's never not been soft.

But whatever, let's end this. Tell me what your KAT trade is.



Curiosity but can he be absorbed in the TPE? Obviously we will need to send back picks and younglings but that cna be accommodated on a separate trade with them?


KAT does not fit within the TPE.
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Re: Hard to Believe Ainge will Make any Move Soon Trade Thread 

Post#1102 » by Bleeding Green » Fri Jan 15, 2021 11:08 pm

He makes like 10 dollars too much. I would trade the entire roster besides Tatum and Smart for him.
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Re: Hard to Believe Ainge will Make any Move Soon Trade Thread 

Post#1103 » by MagicBagley18 » Fri Jan 15, 2021 11:35 pm

Kemba comes back balls out....kemba smart pp multiple picks 3-4 team trade and pair tatum and brown with someone else - most gettable beal. It’s the only way to create a super team.

And it only works in the off season with beal killing deals to places that he doesn’t want and it only works by us paying an incredibly high ridiculous premium to keep the jays. Basically he needs to force his way here which I’ll believe it when I see it.
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Post#1104 » by Feed Your Head » Fri Jan 15, 2021 11:55 pm

Soft!

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Post#1105 » by GoCeltics123 » Fri Jan 15, 2021 11:57 pm

The Comedian wrote:Soft!

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He's had a brutal go of it. Prayers up
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Post#1106 » by Feed Your Head » Fri Jan 15, 2021 11:58 pm

GoCeltics123 wrote:
The Comedian wrote:Soft!

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He's had a brutal go of it


It’s awful. Not to make excuses for him, as it only applies to the last year or so, but I can’t imagine being able to focus fully on basketball with how many family members he’s lost.
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Post#1107 » by SmartWentCrazy » Sat Jan 16, 2021 12:01 am

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It took garnett 6 or 7 years to play 2 rounds in playoffs. Maybe a bit longer my memory is crap. Michael Jordan was all about numbers at some point with bulls failing to do anything of significance. Hey guess what Pierce was also a just numbers guy until he got help. We have a tendency to review things from an angle that make sense for us. If any player comes to this team and replicates a 20ppg 10rpg + average coupled with brown Tatum and whoever else is left sudently those numbers are winning numbers.

Towns lost 7 family members to covid the past 6 months including his mother. I'm actually surprised he is even willing to play right now. Some things are bigger than bball.yet he is out there. So next time we're about to Broad brush something like this perhaps let's stop and consider what's causing it maybe?

I wonder if the fact that he plays for the worst franchise in NBA history has any bearing on how he is looked at as soft. Probably not. Probably that he plays more minutes than every C in basketball since he was drafted.


People just dont watch enough basketball and just go off narratives that they see on the media lol. I bet most people on this forum arent making a point to catch all those Timberwolves games.


Ive actually watched them a ton. KAT may be the most skilled offensive big in NBA history. But he’s soft AF and just not a guy willing to do the little things needed to win. His defense is abysmal
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Re: Hard to Believe Ainge will Make any Move Soon Trade Thread 

Post#1108 » by SmartWentCrazy » Sat Jan 16, 2021 12:02 am

The Comedian wrote:Soft!

Read on Twitter
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My heart breaks for him. One of the guys I’ve rooted hardest for and he seems like a fantastic dude.
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Re: Hard to Believe Ainge will Make any Move Soon Trade Thread 

Post#1109 » by Celtics1918 » Sat Jan 16, 2021 12:31 am

MagicBagley18 wrote:Kemba comes back balls out....kemba smart pp multiple picks 3-4 team trade and pair tatum and brown with someone else - most gettable beal. It’s the only way to create a super team.

And it only works in the off season with beal killing deals to places that he doesn’t want and it only works by us paying an incredibly high ridiculous premium to keep the jays. Basically he needs to force his way here which I’ll believe it when I see it.

Heat Have 'High' Level Of Interest In Trading For Bradley Beal report!!! Ink not even dry and Miami already coming up with a plan to put together a super team. If Miami wants this guy nothing the Celtics can do to match them without giving up Tatum or Brown and that makes no since plus Miami has room for one max contract next year.
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Post#1110 » by CeltsfanSinceBirth » Sat Jan 16, 2021 12:58 am

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Edug27 wrote:Y’all really think Boston is trading Kemba?? Is this where we are going now??


Lol. They tried trading him for Jrue Holiday.


Who was the source on this rumor again?


Zachary Harper from the Athletic mentioned it.
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Post#1111 » by Edug27 » Sat Jan 16, 2021 3:03 am

CeltsfanSinceBirth wrote:
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Lol. They tried trading him for Jrue Holiday.


Who was the source on this rumor again?


Zachary Harper from the Athletic mentioned it.


Yea... I wouldn’t trust that at all. Celtics are shopping Kemba “all around the league” and he’s the only “insider” to pick up on it. Got it.

Kemba isn’t going anywhere.
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Post#1112 » by keevsnick1 » Sat Jan 16, 2021 3:07 am

Edug27 wrote:
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Who was the source on this rumor again?


Zachary Harper from the Athletic mentioned it.


Yea... I wouldn’t trust that at all. Celtics are shopping Kemba “all around the league” and he’s the only “insider” to pick up on it. Got it.

Kemba isn’t going anywhere.


Multiple sources had the Celtics interested in holiday, although Harper was the only one that explicitly mentioned Kemba I dont think there was any other real trade framework that made sense so my guess is that rumor was at least somewhat real.

If the c's find the right deal he absolutely could go somewhere.
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Post#1113 » by Edug27 » Sat Jan 16, 2021 3:20 am

keevsnick1 wrote:
Edug27 wrote:
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Zachary Harper from the Athletic mentioned it.


Yea... I wouldn’t trust that at all. Celtics are shopping Kemba “all around the league” and he’s the only “insider” to pick up on it. Got it.

Kemba isn’t going anywhere.


Multiple sources had the Celtics interested in holiday, although Harper was the only one that explicitly mentioned Kemba I dont think there was any other real trade framework that made sense so my guess is that rumor was at least somewhat real.

If the c's find the right deal he absolutely could go somewhere.


Celtics have interest in every all star level player that comes available... And any player could be moved for “the right deal”, if you really want to get literal.

But Holiday isn’t the right deal for that lol.

If Boston were “shopping Kemba around the league for draft picks to flip to acquire Holiday” like this clown claims, you would have heard that from other more credible people.
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Re: Hard to Believe Ainge will Make any Move Soon Trade Thread 

Post#1114 » by Maple Green » Sat Jan 16, 2021 3:58 am

I would rather trade Kemba for Center like Wiseman,plus plus in multiple team involve.
Remember we still have TPE 27M.

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Re: Hard to Believe Ainge will Make any Move Soon Trade Thread 

Post#1115 » by Celtics1918 » Sat Jan 16, 2021 5:40 am

The one guy I like to see the Celtics trade for that could be realistic and you don't have to give up Brown or Tatum that would move the neddle is Zach LaVine pts 27.7 he a good two way player a poor mans Bradley Beal He set a goal this year to make the playoffs and be an all star one should come true. I read on few sites a trade that fell apart last week was Chicago Bulls Receive: Andrew Wiggins, 2021 1st Round Pick (via MIN), 2022 1st Round Pick (Top 8 Prot.) Golden State Warriors Receive: Zach LaVine, Thaddeus Young, I think The Celtics could match this would be enough be beat Brooklyn Nets no but Tatum, Brown, LaVine, Walker, Thompson gives you a puncher's chance.
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Re: Hard to Believe Ainge will Make any Move Soon Trade Thread 

Post#1116 » by Higgs Boston » Sat Jan 16, 2021 9:13 am

I don't know if it would be possible to become Lavine a two way player and a team player.
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Re: Hard to Believe Ainge will Make any Move Soon Trade Thread 

Post#1117 » by Scarletfire81 » Sat Jan 16, 2021 11:57 am

Drummond with 33 points and 23 boards. He’s having a good year, I think we could get him but not sure what we’d have to give up.
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Post#1118 » by Green89 » Sat Jan 16, 2021 12:25 pm

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I would rather have Theis


Do we really want Thompson, Theis, AND Robert Williams? I feel like a big for a wing trade is a pretty obvious one to make. And given the contract situations, Theis is the most logical trade candidate. It's not really about Theis as a player, he's good.


IMO, absolutely YES. Stagger the 3 depending on match-ups, keep them fresh throughout the season. Another reason why I'd like to keep all 3 is because of the covid stuff, as we're seeing now, RWill & TT haven't been able to play...Good thing we had Theis. Injuries too. RWill, Theis haven't exactly been the most durable guys. I just think when the going gets tough all 3 of these guys are needed in order for Boston to reach it's peak. I also like how all 3 bring different styles of play. RWill gives the team a dimension that no other player on the team can bring in terms of his shot blocking, lob finishing, and length/athleticism. Theis can stretch the floor a bit, and switches out on the perimeter pretty well. TT is the dog and brings the grit and toughness down low. Best rebounder of the bench and most experienced.
I'm a big fan of our trio and I think it would be a mistake to break them up unless there's a good trade for Boston where Theis or RWill is needed to get the deal done.


Guys that can close playoff games >>>>> three bigs

When was the last time Thompson even closed a regular season game? Playoffs are down to the final 5 minutes in most games, and having Theis on the floor in crunch time time didn't get us past the Heat last year. Having a guy like Tucker or another wing to close out a game is more important. You want a tile, you go get a wing. You want solid big rotations in case of injuries, you're just asking for Eastern Conference treadmill territory. Nets, Sixers, Heat, and Bucks are all too strong to not want to go get another wing for playoff help.
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Re: Hard to Believe Ainge will Make any Move Soon Trade Thread 

Post#1119 » by vct33 » Sat Jan 16, 2021 1:00 pm

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We're not a title favorite, so our margin for error is smaller, so in that sense those construction flaws on the margins do matter. You lose playoff games and series due to a bad 4-5 minute stretch with the wrong lineup out there. It's a flaw that should be fixed to maximize this group's chances. And that's before we get into the need for Robert to see more minutes and to maximize Theis's expiring contract into a piece that actually fits better on the roster. It doesnt have to be anything major but a Theis for a backup wing is a very logical and needed move. I never said we're in a doomsday scenario because of that but it is an issue and it should be fixed.

Sure, but you can't just magically fix an issue the exact moment you want to, just because you want to. Unless you're a top, clear-cut title favorite, every team has "issues" they would like to fix. Trades take work, and timing. If we get the opportunity to resolve the Center logjam in a way that improves the team, we will. Until then, as "issues" go, this is not a very big one.

Just doing the rough math the rotation is gonna look something like this:
Kemba (30) Pritchard (18)
Smart (34) ???
Brown (36) ???
Tatum (36) Grant/Semi (12)
3 Centers (48 minutes)

Even if we're being optimistic about Langford's return and lets say he plays 15 minutes at the backup 2, theres still another 12-15mins that needs to be filled at the backup wing spot. If we dont fill that spot we're gonna see the Teague-Pritchard lineups again which is horrible defensively.

Teague will not get zeroed out on minutes. And Grant and Semi will play more than 12mpg cumulatively. I don't know [i]exactly[i] what the rotation is going to look like, but those two things I can guarantee you.


That's my exact point and what I dislike about the roster construction. We shouldnt be playing Teague and Pritchard together and we shouldnt be playing Grant or Semi really any minutes at the 3. You're describing exactly what I think is a problem with the rotation.


If they are on the floor with Tatum, Grant or Semi wouldn’t be playing minutes at the 3. Jason would. I don’t think you can really assign all 36 minutes of Tatum’s minutes to 4. Or all of Brown or Smart’s minutes to just one position for that matter.
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Post#1120 » by LewisnotMiller » Sat Jan 16, 2021 2:00 pm

Scarletfire81 wrote:Drummond with 33 points and 23 boards. He’s having a good year, I think we could get him but not sure what we’d have to give up.


Due to his salary it would need to include Kemba.
TPE isn't enough.

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