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ezmoney707 wrote:Okay real question do you trade Randle at the deadline or do you build this team with him on it long term ? (Keyword phrase “on it” not “around”)
The Knicks should trade him but since he might become an all star this season I don’t think the Knicks will. They wouldn’t want to go full treadmill with the Nets having a big three at the moment. Plus at this point I doubt a team offers what the Knicks would want in return anyway.
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Robinson can't guard any center with any offensive skills. Nope not even a washed up Al Horford. If you aren't limited like he is, like Bismack Biyombo for example, then yeah he can just do to you what others do to him and take the night off defensively. But when you can actually do something with the ball, he can't guard you. It's like it's too much to process for his brain, when he has to contest your jump shot or guard you when you put the ball on the floor or when he has to defend your footwork and strength and post moves. Like watching a robot malfunction
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NoDopeOnSundays wrote:PeteW wrote:
This is a non answer, he said a whole bunch of nothing.
How group fits...my a$$ lmao.
Starters: no shooting, no spacing, ball movement is reliant upon Randle drive and kicks
Bench: ++ shooting, ++ spacing, more defensive energy, + ball movement
So if his goal is to have a really cohesive bench I guess he's got it

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jvsimonetti0514 wrote:Just here to remind shams that Mitch was the worst player on the floor tonightI don’t blame Thibs on pulling Noel tonight after that midrange shot he took but he was really good and Mitch was obviously not 100%. When dot blew by RJ for that lay up Mitch missed that rotation. I think if he’s 100% he blocks that shot.
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RJ was too slow there when he got the pass. His offensive awareness is poor at times. Let’s hope he learns.
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ezmoney707 wrote:Okay real question do you trade Randle at the deadline or do you build this team with him on it long term ? (Keyword phrase “on it” not “around”)
Right now, I would build with Randle. He's playing at an elite level and getting better by the game, teams will not compensate you enough for him.
Fortunately/unfortunately Obi has to mesh somehow. It could be like Haliburton in Sacramento, who's playing behind Fox and Hield.
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ezmoney707 wrote:Okay real question do you trade Randle at the deadline or do you build this team with him on it long term ? (Keyword phrase “on it” not “around”)
I don’t want to see no barret, Randle, Mitch long term hell no. I don’t care how well Randle is playing he ain’t no true shooter, Barrett and Mitch are not shooters either it will never work
If you want to rock with Randle long term it’s time to bring Barrett off the bench and put respectable shooters on the floor and get a point guard with a brain that can actually make a open shot And smart pass
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HEZI wrote:Robinson can't guard any center with any offensive skills. Nope not even a washed up Al Horford. If you aren't limited like he is, like Bismack Biyombo for example, then yeah he can just do to you what others do to him and take the night off defensively. But when you can actually do something with the ball, he can't guard you. It's like it's too much to process for his brain, when he has to contest your jump shot or guard you when you put the ball on the floor or when he has to defend your footwork and strength and post moves. Like watching a robot malfunction
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whocares1 wrote:jvsimonetti0514 wrote:PeteW wrote:
It needs to happen ASAP. It’s just so obvious how much better the team looks when he’s on the floor. It almost reminds me how KP was his rookie year. When as soon as they come into the game the moment or pace of the game completely changes. He’s def going to be really good.
Definitely not. Quickley has looked bad recently before tonight. Cavs just don’t have the personnel to attack his weaknesses. I wouldn’t get hyped after this performance. He should start over Payton but for the sake of the youth movement.
Not that it changes your argument that much but he was good against BK too. When he was bad I just felt like he was just missing shots. IIRC the team looked better even when he was bricking. I think him being a threat from 3 just changes everything about the offense.
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HEZI wrote:Robinson can't guard any center with any offensive skills. Nope not even a washed up Al Horford. If you aren't limited like he is, like Bismack Biyombo for example, then yeah he can just do to you what others do to him and take the night off defensively. But when you can actually do something with the ball, he can't guard you. It's like it's too much to process for his brain, when he has to contest your jump shot or guard you when you put the ball on the floor or when he has to defend your footwork and strength and post moves. Like watching a robot malfunction
What I like about Mitch is his activity, but this advantage disappears in the playoffs (which is supposed to be the goal) once other players step up their intensity.
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Is tanking viewed as a viable option for fans? No matter how terrible are they never get the #1 draft pick. So what's the point? Plus, Cade actually doesn't impress me. His ball control looks shaky. I don't think he will be a PG when he enters the league. We need a pure PG.
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Even if IQ doesn’t start there has to be any young PG we can find to share time with Q.
It’s really maddening that we are letting El play for us. He’s selfish and terrible.
It’s really maddening that we are letting El play for us. He’s selfish and terrible.
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god shammgod wrote:jvsimonetti0514 wrote:Just here to remind shams that Mitch was the worst player on the floor tonightI don’t blame Thibs on pulling Noel tonight after that midrange shot he took but he was really good and Mitch was obviously not 100%. When dot blew by RJ for that lay up Mitch missed that rotation. I think if he’s 100% he blocks that shot.
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Spree2Houston wrote:god shammgod wrote:[/quote
Basically once Gibson gets up to speed, we will see a starting 5 of
Payton
Burks
Bullock
Gibson
Randle

Karl Anthony-Towms
There goes my hero. He's ordinary.
There goes my hero. He's ordinary.
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Where the F is Frank?
58th game missed in 3 seasons. 36% of games since his sophomore season lost to injury.
58th game missed in 3 seasons. 36% of games since his sophomore season lost to injury.
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jvsimonetti0514 wrote:whocares1 wrote:jvsimonetti0514 wrote:It needs to happen ASAP. It’s just so obvious how much better the team looks when he’s on the floor. It almost reminds me how KP was his rookie year. When as soon as they come into the game the moment or pace of the game completely changes. He’s def going to be really good.
Definitely not. Quickley has looked bad recently before tonight. Cavs just don’t have the personnel to attack his weaknesses. I wouldn’t get hyped after this performance. He should start over Payton but for the sake of the youth movement.
Not that it changes your argument that much but he was good against BK too. When he was bad I just felt like he was just missing shots. IIRC the team looked better even when he was bricking. I think him being a threat from 3 just changes everything about the offense.
Against Charlotte he played 30 minutes and we sucked because they were forcing the ball out of his hands and playing him off the three point line and he couldn’t get into the paint. Obv the kid is young and should play over Payton tho.

















