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saloonyk8 wrote:I saw an orlando trade Vucevic for Capella/Snell/FRP
Isn't that a no brainier? What am I missing?
HMFFL wrote:Exploring a John Collins trade with the Cleveland Cavaliers
The Atlanta Hawks should make a trade with the Cleveland Cavaliers
While the Cleveland Cavaliers have just added to their playing stock with the addition of Jarrett Allen and Taurean Prince, this has them with an out of balance roster. They have Andre Drummond, Allen, Kevin Love, Larry Nance Jr, JaVale McGee, and Thon Maker who can all play the five. Here is how the trade should look.
https://soaringdownsouth.com/2021/01/14/atlanta-hawks-trade-concept-cleveland-cavaliers/
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cedric76 wrote:Would you guys do
Fournier for CAM+Snell
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yyu2x8sv
Ummm no.Spud2nique wrote:cedric76 wrote:Would you guys do
Fournier for CAM+Snell
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yyu2x8sv
Jamaaliver wrote:saloonyk8 wrote:I saw an orlando trade Vucevic for Capella/Snell/FRP
Isn't that a no brainier? What am I missing?
The 1st rounder is the deal breaker. This is considered the deepest draft in years. And Vucevic's never been out of the 1st round of the playoffs.
If the pick was protected or if Collins was being dealt for another piece, you consider it. But straight up... we still have a ceiling of barely a playoff team after this deal...with no first round pick to deal or use.
cedric76 wrote:Spud2nique wrote:cedric76 wrote:Would you guys do
Fournier for CAM+Snell
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yyu2x8sv
Really?
Funny our fan rate their own players.
Magic fans don't want it either
Spud2nique wrote:So people hear rumblings from Atlanta and think we are having a fire sale. No, no not at all. I guess it’s great to hear that everyone wants Collins it must mean he’s good but they are lowballing us like crazy which is typical.
Collins is a 20/10 guy who is under 25 and a top 20 player under 25. We don’t want your sloppy vets for him.
saloonyk8 wrote:3 team trade
Washington gets Collins, Rondo, Snell, Sixers FRP x 2, Maxey, Thunder FRP (Likely 2nds), Hawks FRP protected
Philly gets Beal, Bongo
Hawks get Simmons
graymule wrote::D
If other NBA teams wish to trade with Atlanta, I believe Bruno Fernando might be available
if the price is right. Hawks are keeping him out of games to prevent injuries. He's healthy.
Bleacher ReportBlockbuster NBA Trade Ideas You've Never Thought Of
Suns Find Their Power Forward, Hawks Find a Future First
Phoenix Suns receive: John Collins
Atlanta Hawks receive: Cameron Johnson and 2024 first-round pick (top-five protected)
The Hawks haven't come out and said they're ready to move on from John Collins, but the writing is on the wall, and the script sure looks like it came from general manager Travis Schlenk.
Collins was extension-eligible this offseason and reportedly sought max money. Atlanta reportedly offered about $90 million instead. Collins can fill the 4 and 5 spots. The Hawks have heavily invested in other options at that position, from sacrificing a first-round pick to get Clint Capela to spending the No. 6 selection on Onyeka Okongwu to signing Danilo Gallinari to a three-year, $61.5 million deal.
Collins is also growing tired of Atlanta's Trae Young-centric offense, perhaps because Collins is averaging his fewest shots and points in three seasons—in a contract year, no less.
At the very least, Atlanta should be gauging Collins' market, and Phoenix should have an offer ready as soon as the phone call comes through. The Suns are making strides during Chris Paul's first season in the desert, but they could use more consistency at the power forward position than newcomer Jae Crowder and sophomore Cameron Johnson can provide.
Collins can put up silly stat lines in his sleep. Last season, he was one of four players to average 20 points and 10 rebounds. Franchise centerpieces Giannis Antetokounmpo, Joel Embiid and Karl-Anthony Towns were the others.
Playing with Paul could get Collins the ball movement he's after, and the point guard could maximize his impact as a pick-and-roll screener. There should be enough spacing for the Collins-Deandre Ayton frontcourt to work, and head coach Monty Williams could stagger their minutes a bit to give each free rein on the interior. Having Crowder as a full-time second-teamer could make this already strong bench mob (fifth in plus/minus) even more potent.
Atlanta, meanwhile, would turn a player it's seemingly OK losing into 2019's No. 11 pick (Johnson, whose three-point sniping could help take heat off Young) and a lightly protected future first from a team with a 35-year-old point guard.
Jamaaliver wrote:Bleacher ReportBlockbuster NBA Trade Ideas You've Never Thought Of
Suns Find Their Power Forward, Hawks Find a Future First
Phoenix Suns receive: John Collins
Atlanta Hawks receive: Cameron Johnson and 2024 first-round pick (top-five protected)
The Hawks haven't come out and said they're ready to move on from John Collins, but the writing is on the wall, and the script sure looks like it came from general manager Travis Schlenk.
Collins was extension-eligible this offseason and reportedly sought max money. Atlanta reportedly offered about $90 million instead. Collins can fill the 4 and 5 spots. The Hawks have heavily invested in other options at that position, from sacrificing a first-round pick to get Clint Capela to spending the No. 6 selection on Onyeka Okongwu to signing Danilo Gallinari to a three-year, $61.5 million deal.
Collins is also growing tired of Atlanta's Trae Young-centric offense, perhaps because Collins is averaging his fewest shots and points in three seasons—in a contract year, no less.
At the very least, Atlanta should be gauging Collins' market, and Phoenix should have an offer ready as soon as the phone call comes through. The Suns are making strides during Chris Paul's first season in the desert, but they could use more consistency at the power forward position than newcomer Jae Crowder and sophomore Cameron Johnson can provide.
Collins can put up silly stat lines in his sleep. Last season, he was one of four players to average 20 points and 10 rebounds. Franchise centerpieces Giannis Antetokounmpo, Joel Embiid and Karl-Anthony Towns were the others.
Playing with Paul could get Collins the ball movement he's after, and the point guard could maximize his impact as a pick-and-roll screener. There should be enough spacing for the Collins-Deandre Ayton frontcourt to work, and head coach Monty Williams could stagger their minutes a bit to give each free rein on the interior. Having Crowder as a full-time second-teamer could make this already strong bench mob (fifth in plus/minus) even more potent.
Atlanta, meanwhile, would turn a player it's seemingly OK losing into 2019's No. 11 pick (Johnson, whose three-point sniping could help take heat off Young) and a lightly protected future first from a team with a 35-year-old point guard.
saloonyk8 wrote:What an awful trade lol.... If we're getting nothing back I want 3 FRP
