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Re: 2020-21 NBA Season Discussion 

Post#681 » by MyUniBroDavis » Sun Jan 17, 2021 1:58 am

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StepBackCrack wrote:Harden and KD are both extremely high IQ basketball and are the best scorers I've ever seen since MJ and they already look like they have played together since forever and that's without even practicing yet. This will be the deadliest duo in the league if they stay healthy. However, Nets will need to get a much better C because DJ is totally washed and hurting this team big time. McGee makes perfect sense for them.


Offensively def the best duo in the league but Bron/Ad are still clearly #1 overall. The 2 duos are in their own tier tho

Honestly Kd/Harden/Joe might be the best offensive trio in Nba. He's such a good player he's like a white Klay

They really don't need Kyrie. They should ship him and Deandre for defense/depth but it'll never happen


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Re: 2020-21 NBA Season Discussion 

Post#682 » by StepBackCrack » Sun Jan 17, 2021 2:12 am

Durant with another MVP-like performance tonight (and Harden was as amazing as well). He is at his best after such career-crushing injury it's so incredible. Most unguardable player ever. Defenders just hope he misses. It's like watching prime Dirk and T-Mac in one player. Harden will have so much fun with him.
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Re: 2020-21 NBA Season Discussion 

Post#683 » by Basileus777 » Sun Jan 17, 2021 2:18 am

StepBackCrack wrote:Durant with another MVP-like performance tonight (and Harden was as amazing as well). He is at his best after such career-crushing injury it's so incredible. Most unguardable player ever. Defenders just hope he misses. It's like watching prime Dirk and T-Mac in one player. Harden will have so much fun with him.

And now he gets to benefit from Harden forcing a switch and getting the ball to Durant on a mismatch. It's going to be a nightmare to guard.
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Re: 2020-21 NBA Season Discussion 

Post#684 » by StepBackCrack » Sun Jan 17, 2021 2:32 am

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StepBackCrack wrote:Durant with another MVP-like performance tonight (and Harden was as amazing as well). He is at his best after such career-crushing injury it's so incredible. Most unguardable player ever. Defenders just hope he misses. It's like watching prime Dirk and T-Mac in one player. Harden will have so much fun with him.

And now he gets to benefit from Harden forcing a switch and getting the ball to Durant on a mismatch. It's going to be a nightmare to guard.


I know right? Just crazy amount of potential with their two man game. These 2 are incredibly skilled it's so incredible to watch. Harden will be the perfect PG/playmaker paired with Durant I feel. Just hope Kyrie doesn't ruin this chemistry haha.

But I'm sure you agree they need a center badly. DJ is just beyond terrible. And another defensive 4 ideally. Nets management will need to make more moves to improve the defense for sure. Allen was a massive loss for them but James Harden is a generational talent so you make that trade every time.
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Re: 2020-21 NBA Season Discussion 

Post#685 » by Dupp » Sun Jan 17, 2021 3:07 am

Harden and kd could easily be the goat offensive duo
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Re: 2020-21 NBA Season Discussion 

Post#686 » by GSP » Sun Jan 17, 2021 6:52 am

StepBackCrack wrote:Durant with another MVP-like performance tonight (and Harden was as amazing as well). He is at his best after such career-crushing injury it's so incredible. Most unguardable player ever. Defenders just hope he misses. It's like watching prime Dirk and T-Mac in one player. Harden will have so much fun with him.


DraftExpress/NbaDraft have a lot of bad Nba comps over the years. Many alltime bad ones but i dont think they hit a comp out of the park like Kd being Dirk/Tmac

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Re: 2020-21 NBA Season Discussion 

Post#687 » by GSP » Sun Jan 17, 2021 7:04 am

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StepBackCrack wrote:Durant with another MVP-like performance tonight (and Harden was as amazing as well). He is at his best after such career-crushing injury it's so incredible. Most unguardable player ever. Defenders just hope he misses. It's like watching prime Dirk and T-Mac in one player. Harden will have so much fun with him.

And now he gets to benefit from Harden forcing a switch and getting the ball to Durant on a mismatch. It's going to be a nightmare to guard.


Not only that but even excluding Kyrie theres Joe Harris whos gonna be wide open alot.......Joe Harris is a damn good player and a tier 1 shooter. He was averaging 43% on 3s at 5 attempts a game the past 4 seasons.......

Joe isnt just a one dimensional 3pt shooter like Robinson either. He isnt the mover or contested snap shooter Robinson is but he has a midrange shot 10ft and beyond and hes a sneaky great finisher at 66% at the rim the past 3 seasons. Hes been shooting more contested recently too and even a little step back but its not consistent. He hits those deep 3s a few steps beyond the line too

hes also 6'6 220 with strong legs and lower core. He can defend at a decent level man to man def better than almost all shooters of his archetype. Hes lowkey like a white Klay but obviously not as good. Klay also has issues offball on defense
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Re: 2020-21 NBA Season Discussion 

Post#688 » by StepBackCrack » Sun Jan 17, 2021 7:24 am

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StepBackCrack wrote:Durant with another MVP-like performance tonight (and Harden was as amazing as well). He is at his best after such career-crushing injury it's so incredible. Most unguardable player ever. Defenders just hope he misses. It's like watching prime Dirk and T-Mac in one player. Harden will have so much fun with him.

And now he gets to benefit from Harden forcing a switch and getting the ball to Durant on a mismatch. It's going to be a nightmare to guard.


Not only that but even excluding Kyrie theres Joe Harris whos gonna be wide open alot.......Joe Harris is a damn good player and a tier 1 shooter. He was averaging 43% on 3s at 5 attempts a game the past 4 seasons.......

Joe isnt just a one dimensional 3pt shooter like Robinson either. He isnt the mover or contested snap shooter Robinson is but he has a midrange shot 10ft and beyond and hes a sneaky great finisher at 66% at the rim the past 3 seasons. Hes been shooting more contested recently too and even a little step back but its not consistent. He hits those deep 3s a few steps beyond the line too

hes also 6'6 220 with strong legs and lower core. He can defend at a decent level man to man def better than almost all shooters of his archetype. Hes lowkey like a white Klay but obviously not as good. Klay also has issues offball on defense


Agreed with all of this. Harris is quite good. He is 49% from 3 already and he will only get more open looks which is crazy lol. The fact that the Nets didn't have to trade Harris and get Harden is a huge win for them. KD/Harden/Harris might actually end up being more dangerous line-up than KD/Harden/Kyrie because Harris is easily their best catch and shoot player and doesn't need to dribble the ball much. Really similar to Klay as you said but obviously not quite as good.

What would you do with Kyrie if you were Nash and still want to maximize the potential of Harden/KD? I feel Nash should stagger their minutes as much as possible. Bench Kyrie early and then let him lead the bench unit. When it comes to closing, get him in with Harden/KD obviously. And when they play all together, Harden should be the primary ball handler because essentially, he is their best PG/playmaker for sure. Harden/KD already seem to have this perfect balance of how much each handles the ball and when to pass/shoot. Harden still handles the ball more as he should but KD still gets enough time on the ball to be his lethal self. Such high IQ players. I'm not sure Kyrie will be able to strike such a balance. He certainly will need to handle the ball less imo. We will see soon how it goes.
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Re: 2020-21 NBA Season Discussion 

Post#689 » by Dupp » Sun Jan 17, 2021 9:21 am

Hope rockets enjoy all those pick 30's and the dipo rental
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Re: 2020-21 NBA Season Discussion 

Post#690 » by MyUniBroDavis » Sun Jan 17, 2021 9:45 am

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Basileus777 wrote:
StepBackCrack wrote:Durant with another MVP-like performance tonight (and Harden was as amazing as well). He is at his best after such career-crushing injury it's so incredible. Most unguardable player ever. Defenders just hope he misses. It's like watching prime Dirk and T-Mac in one player. Harden will have so much fun with him.

And now he gets to benefit from Harden forcing a switch and getting the ball to Durant on a mismatch. It's going to be a nightmare to guard.


Not only that but even excluding Kyrie theres Joe Harris whos gonna be wide open alot.......Joe Harris is a damn good player and a tier 1 shooter. He was averaging 43% on 3s at 5 attempts a game the past 4 seasons.......

Joe isnt just a one dimensional 3pt shooter like Robinson either. He isnt the mover or contested snap shooter Robinson is but he has a midrange shot 10ft and beyond and hes a sneaky great finisher at 66% at the rim the past 3 seasons. Hes been shooting more contested recently too and even a little step back but its not consistent. He hits those deep 3s a few steps beyond the line too

hes also 6'6 220 with strong legs and lower core. He can defend at a decent level man to man def better than almost all shooters of his archetype. Hes lowkey like a white Klay but obviously not as good. Klay also has issues offball on defense



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Re: 2020-21 NBA Season Discussion 

Post#691 » by StepBackCrack » Sun Jan 17, 2021 10:11 am

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Basileus777 wrote:And now he gets to benefit from Harden forcing a switch and getting the ball to Durant on a mismatch. It's going to be a nightmare to guard.


Not only that but even excluding Kyrie theres Joe Harris whos gonna be wide open alot.......Joe Harris is a damn good player and a tier 1 shooter. He was averaging 43% on 3s at 5 attempts a game the past 4 seasons.......

Joe isnt just a one dimensional 3pt shooter like Robinson either. He isnt the mover or contested snap shooter Robinson is but he has a midrange shot 10ft and beyond and hes a sneaky great finisher at 66% at the rim the past 3 seasons. Hes been shooting more contested recently too and even a little step back but its not consistent. He hits those deep 3s a few steps beyond the line too

hes also 6'6 220 with strong legs and lower core. He can defend at a decent level man to man def better than almost all shooters of his archetype. Hes lowkey like a white Klay but obviously not as good. Klay also has issues offball on defense



My guy what is a white klay


Klay is mixed so he is considered black because of that I guess lol. Same with Curry (he is considered a black person I think). Harris is 100% white, hence "white Klay". :lol:
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Re: 2020-21 NBA Season Discussion 

Post#692 » by MyUniBroDavis » Sun Jan 17, 2021 10:23 am

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Not only that but even excluding Kyrie theres Joe Harris whos gonna be wide open alot.......Joe Harris is a damn good player and a tier 1 shooter. He was averaging 43% on 3s at 5 attempts a game the past 4 seasons.......

Joe isnt just a one dimensional 3pt shooter like Robinson either. He isnt the mover or contested snap shooter Robinson is but he has a midrange shot 10ft and beyond and hes a sneaky great finisher at 66% at the rim the past 3 seasons. Hes been shooting more contested recently too and even a little step back but its not consistent. He hits those deep 3s a few steps beyond the line too

hes also 6'6 220 with strong legs and lower core. He can defend at a decent level man to man def better than almost all shooters of his archetype. Hes lowkey like a white Klay but obviously not as good. Klay also has issues offball on defense



My guy what is a white klay


Klay is mixed so he is considered black because of that I guess lol. Same with Curry (he is considered a black person I think). Harris is 100% white, hence "white Klay". :lol:


My guy that’s like calling someone black tiger woods except tiger woods is 1/4th black and klay is 3/4ths white lol
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Re: 2020-21 NBA Season Discussion 

Post#693 » by StepBackCrack » Sun Jan 17, 2021 10:44 am

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StepBackCrack wrote:
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My guy what is a white klay


Klay is mixed so he is considered black because of that I guess lol. Same with Curry (he is considered a black person I think). Harris is 100% white, hence "white Klay". :lol:


My guy that’s like calling someone black tiger woods except tiger woods is 1/4th black and klay is 3/4ths white lol


True. :lol: Just pointing where he is coming from.
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Post#694 » by therealbig3 » Sun Jan 17, 2021 11:26 am

Kyrie is apparently saying the right things and is willing to sacrifice, so if he's cool with being a secondary/tertiary creator on offense and primarily more of an off-ball player that feasts in the midrange and from the 3pt line, I think this Nets offense is pretty much unguardable.

Even if they do "my turn, your turn" thing between the three of them...is there any precedent of something like that NOT leading to a great offense regardless? They're 3 of the best ISO players in the league (I think KD and Harden statistically ARE the best), so even if they take turns...that's efficient offense at the end of the day.
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Post#695 » by therealbig3 » Sun Jan 17, 2021 11:28 am

Harris is averaging 15 ppg on 49% shooting from 3 btw.

Really don't think the guy is overpaid the way a lot of people said he was after he signed his new contract. He's not just a spot up shooter either, he's a really good finisher around the rim, good midrange shooter, and a solid man to man defender.
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Re: 2020-21 NBA Season Discussion 

Post#696 » by GSP » Sun Jan 17, 2021 11:58 am

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GSP wrote:
Basileus777 wrote:And now he gets to benefit from Harden forcing a switch and getting the ball to Durant on a mismatch. It's going to be a nightmare to guard.


Not only that but even excluding Kyrie theres Joe Harris whos gonna be wide open alot.......Joe Harris is a damn good player and a tier 1 shooter. He was averaging 43% on 3s at 5 attempts a game the past 4 seasons.......

Joe isnt just a one dimensional 3pt shooter like Robinson either. He isnt the mover or contested snap shooter Robinson is but he has a midrange shot 10ft and beyond and hes a sneaky great finisher at 66% at the rim the past 3 seasons. Hes been shooting more contested recently too and even a little step back but its not consistent. He hits those deep 3s a few steps beyond the line too

hes also 6'6 220 with strong legs and lower core. He can defend at a decent level man to man def better than almost all shooters of his archetype. Hes lowkey like a white Klay but obviously not as good. Klay also has issues offball on defense



My guy what is a white klay


I'm just meming like when ppl call Luka the white Larry Bird
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Re: 2020-21 NBA Season Discussion 

Post#697 » by SkyHookFTW » Sun Jan 17, 2021 12:36 pm

Sixers have lost every game in which Embiid didn’t play. He might not be the MVP, but he will be in the conversation if the Sixers break 50 wins and this trend continues.
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Post#698 » by Goudelock » Sun Jan 17, 2021 3:17 pm

Nets offense looks terrifying, but if we're going by one-game sample sizes, giving up 115 to a Magic squad that hadn't cracked 100 points in four straight games is kind of concerning. What would a team like Milwaukee/Boston/Indiana do to them in the playoffs?
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Post#699 » by MisterHibachi » Sun Jan 17, 2021 4:56 pm

Goudelock wrote:Nets offense looks terrifying, but if we're going by one-game sample sizes, giving up 115 to a Magic squad that hadn't cracked 100 points in four straight games is kind of concerning. What would a team like Milwaukee/Boston/Indiana do to them in the playoffs?


Milwaukee has the best offense in the league so far, and they play the Nets tomorrow. Should be a good one.
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Post#700 » by Peregrine01 » Sun Jan 17, 2021 5:07 pm

Watching the Nets play, I wonder what Kyrie can add to this team and can't really think of much. The logical thing would be to trade him for more depth and defense once there's a trade market for him again.

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