Trade Discussion 22/23

[ozwizard8]

I kinda wonder if an unprotected 1st and powell could land us turner. That would be intresting with a kp turner kleber wcs johnson frontcourt. Lots of nice combinations that can be made

This would be great! All the trade talks with M.Turner sounded like Pacers are willing to ship him for cheap. Turner would be a great addition to this team considering his age and defense.

[ozwizard8]

Dont get what ppl got against jrich. He and kleber is the 2 beat defenders we got. Sure, his shot hasnt fallen in the season yet, but same can be said about a lot of other of our players before last few games.

Nobody is against J-RIch. You just dont want to be the guy to hand him a $25M check.

Just look at Indian trading Oladipo for Lavert. Now that's a smart move. You do not want to be the guy who hands Oladipo $35M or he walks away for nothing if you do not pay up. Mavs are on the same boat with Richardson.

Morey got a good starter that fits great with the 76ers team with a bargain 2-year contract for JRich. When you consider the contracts, multiyear contract of Curry was a good thing to have like Lavert-Oladipo case.

Both Miami and 76ers got better after Jrich departure is telling sth. So far he let Mavs' offense down considerably without adding too much on the defensive side. On top of the poor performance. his reputation is somehow better than this and he can get an offer like 80-90m/4 year deal or sth. There is always a desperate team with a cap space to spend. Knicks, TWolves type of teams can roll the dice if they find the opportunity.

Ideally, Mavs would find a way to trade him and Johnson for a 20-30m per year deal type of player. I guess Dallas would need to wait for this though. Maybe he'll adjust his game and improve his value.

[juanc]

Dont get what ppl got against jrich. He and kleber is the 2 beat defenders we got. Sure, his shot hasnt fallen in the season yet, but same can be said about a lot of other of our players before last few games.

Nobody is against J-RIch. You just dont want to be the guy to hand him a $25M check.

Just look at Indian trading Oladipo for Lavert. Now that's a smart move. You do not want to be the guy who hands Oladipo $35M or he walks away for nothing if you do not pay up. Mavs are on the same boat with Richardson.

Morey got a good starter that fits great with the 76ers team with a bargain 2-year contract for JRich. When you consider the contracts, multiyear contract of Curry was a good thing to have like Lavert-Oladipo case.

Both Miami and 76ers got better after Jrich departure is telling sth. So far he let Mavs' offense down considerably without adding too much on the defensive side. On top of the poor performance. his reputation is somehow better than this and he can get an offer like 80-90m/4 year deal or sth. There is always a desperate team with a cap space to spend. Knicks, TWolves type of teams can roll the dice if they find the opportunity.

Ideally, Mavs would find a way to trade him and Johnson for a 20-30m per year deal type of player. I guess Dallas would need to wait for this though. Maybe he'll adjust his game and improve his value.

JRich is one of the best if not the best defender on this team... And he is also a great teammate to have. Just watch the video below(@around the 0:30 mark)

Watch on YouTube

[HMFFL]

Myles Turner is leading the league in blocks with 4.2 per game. Early in the season but damn! Friendly contract, he's only 24yrs old, attended Texas at Austin, and his from Bedford, Texas.

Indiana has seemed to be willing to trade him so I wouldn't mind us seeing what it would take to acquire him.



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[ozwizard8]

Nobody is against J-RIch. You just dont want to be the guy to hand him a $25M check.

Just look at Indian trading Oladipo for Lavert. Now that's a smart move. You do not want to be the guy who hands Oladipo $35M or he walks away for nothing if you do not pay up. Mavs are on the same boat with Richardson.

Morey got a good starter that fits great with the 76ers team with a bargain 2-year contract for JRich. When you consider the contracts, multiyear contract of Curry was a good thing to have like Lavert-Oladipo case.

Both Miami and 76ers got better after Jrich departure is telling sth. So far he let Mavs' offense down considerably without adding too much on the defensive side. On top of the poor performance. his reputation is somehow better than this and he can get an offer like 80-90m/4 year deal or sth. There is always a desperate team with a cap space to spend. Knicks, TWolves type of teams can roll the dice if they find the opportunity.

Ideally, Mavs would find a way to trade him and Johnson for a 20-30m per year deal type of player. I guess Dallas would need to wait for this though. Maybe he'll adjust his game and improve his value.

JRich is one of the best if not the best defender on this team... And he is also a great teammate to have. Just watch the video below(@around the 0:30 mark)

Watch on YouTube

I've made a point about JRich's basketball skills and performance in the past 3 years. A single video and hand gesture at the 0:30 mark cannot be an argument against the points I've made. I've never said he's toxic or such anyway.
I hope Carlisle somehow finds ways to improve his performance. However, the options Carlisle has might be limited similar to Powell.

[ozwizard8]

Myles Turner is leading the league in blocks with 4.2 per game. Early in the season but damn! Friendly contract, he's only 24yrs old, attended Texas at Austin, and his from Bedford, Texas.

Indiana has seemed to be willing to trade him so I wouldn't mind us seeing what it would take to acquire him.



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Turner sounds like a great match.
Last two offseason, I hoped Mavs to sign either one of T.Young, Millsap, Ibaka and such. I've followed KP in his Knicks days as well. He can finish some games at C but he cannot provide interior defense, rebounding for too many minutes. If you also consider Lebron-AD-Gasol, PG-Kawhi-Ibaka frontcourt, Mavs obviously need a good reliable big man who can offer rim protection and rebounding. WCS is a former lottery pick and he has good potential but at this point, I'd rather have both Turner-WCS. Turner would be ideal for this role. I wonder what is the asking price.

If FO feels confident that Mavs would have a chance to land a max player in the summer then they should wait. If the Clippers fail miserably without reaching the WCF, Kawhi might consider opting out. And in that case, Mavs would be the best option for him to win. Luka-Kawhi-KP with R.Carlisle coaching would be a dynasty. That is a pipe dream though. Mavs FO wasn't able to sign any marquee FA so I'd rather trade for Turner.

[arkuo]

reports out of Cleveland is they're trying to trade Kevin Porter Jr after he threw his food when the Cavs gave his locker to Taurean Prince. You think this would interest the Mavs?

[dirkforpres]

reports out of Cleveland is they're trying to trade Kevin Porter Jr after he threw his food when the Cavs gave his locker to Taurean Prince. You think this would interest the Mavs?

Considering our lack of wing depth, probably. Not sure if the Mavs want another diva though and KPJ isnt good enough to warrant that kind of behavior. Still, if he gets released or can be had as a throw in with Drummond, I’d be all for it

[arkuo]

reports out of Cleveland is they're trying to trade Kevin Porter Jr after he threw his food when the Cavs gave his locker to Taurean Prince. You think this would interest the Mavs?

Considering our lack of wing depth, probably. Not sure if the Mavs want another diva though and KPJ isnt good enough to warrant that kind of behavior. Still, if he gets released or can be had as a throw in with Drummond, I’d be all for it

Yeah. Just saw that Drummond is a Jeff Schwartz client. He will get peddled to Cuban in the summer for sure. If Cuban calls dibs, he's ours. For our sake, I hope nothing over $18M per.

[dirkforpres]

reports out of Cleveland is they're trying to trade Kevin Porter Jr after he threw his food when the Cavs gave his locker to Taurean Prince. You think this would interest the Mavs?

Considering our lack of wing depth, probably. Not sure if the Mavs want another diva though and KPJ isnt good enough to warrant that kind of behavior. Still, if he gets released or can be had as a throw in with Drummond, I’d be all for it

Yeah. Just saw that Drummond is a Jeff Schwartz client. He will get peddled to Cuban in the summer for sure. If Cuban calls dibs, he's ours. For our sake, I hope nothing over $18M per.

Plus he is cool with Porzingis, so I think he will garner plenty of Dallas attention. If they don’t trade for him before then, i could see Dallas offering a 1 year deal to him in hopes that he works out well here or is an easy trade piece if not

[aggerrard]

Mavs receive;

Mo Bamba
Aaron Gordon
Al-Farouq Aminu

Norman Powell

Raptors receive;

Maxi Kleber
Boban Marjanovic

Magic receive;

James Johnson
Josh Richardson
Jalen Brunson

One 2nd round pick from Mavericks
One 2nd round pick from Raptors

[Apz]

Thats insane.
Bamba shien nothing that tells me he got a future. I would prefer him over boban but wouldnt add more then a 2nd.

Why would u trade kleber for gordon? Kleber is a better defender and a better shooter, gordon jumps higher. Knows what I prefer of that.

Which makes it Aminu for brunson, johnson and Richardson. Wouldnt do it. Not that I love brunson and johnson, but they are ok and fills their purpose. Richardson is way more valuable the aminu alone. Aminu turn 31 anf havent done a game and averaged 4point 4 reb last season.

Feels like trades involving Gordon and dinwiddie mainky id about the grass is greener..

[aggerrard]

Thats insane.
Bamba shien nothing that tells me he got a future. I would prefer him over boban but wouldnt add more then a 2nd.

Why would u trade kleber for gordon? Kleber is a better defender and a better shooter, gordon jumps higher. Knows what I prefer of that.

Which makes it Aminu for brunson, johnson and Richardson. Wouldnt do it. Not that I love brunson and johnson, but they are ok and fills their purpose. Richardson is way more valuable the aminu alone. Aminu turn 31 anf havent done a game and averaged 4point 4 reb last season.

Feels like trades involving Gordon and dinwiddie mainky id about the grass is greener..

Gordon can be a playmaker and create his own shot. He is just as good a defender - and his overall offensive game are much more well-rounded than Kleber's. Gordon should be valued a good bit higher than Kleber.

Bamba is a risk/reward, but can potentially give some much needed size on the defensive end. KP is getting moved by 180lb guys and WCS ain't defending much.

Aminu is basically a cap-filler.

Norman Powell can come in from the bench and give you 25-30 points any given night. Richardson is a better defender, but isn't as good a shooter.

Magic gets a playmaker with Fultz out - and a decent player in Richardson along with Johnson. Raptors gets Kleber who can give them some size. Mavs gets a good bench score in Powell and a good all-round player in Gordon - along with potential in Bamba, who will see much less competition in Dallas compared to Orlando.

Gordon = Kleber, Brunson, JJ
Powell = Richardson
Bamba = Boban, 2nd rounder and Aminu as a cap relief for Magic.

[Apz]

Gordon 14.9pts
Powell 11.7pts
Bamba 5pts 0.5blk
Aminu DNP

Kleber 7.5pts, 47% from 3, 0.9blk
Brunson 11.1pts
Johnson 6.3pts 0.7blk
Richardson 13.8pts 0.9stl
Boban 4 7pts

Bamba is atm useless. He can get good, but atm KP is twice as sturdy as bamba and JJ is better at blocking. Add that he apparently cant learn to even play pnr, irs nothkng we should give any value for. I woukd di boban and 2nd but no cap relief.

Gordon. I like the guy, but he is no star. That he can create his own shot is more valueble for a team like orlando that doesnt have a playmaker like luka. I value klebers defense more since he can guard 3-5. And i value hid 47% from 3 over gordons 33%.

Norman has regressed back to hus former self. While josh defends other teams best offensive player and have, in all our opinion, had a pretty bad shooting start of the season, still givrs more points forward and much much better defense.

Over that u give up a vet leader that guides our 4 rookies and iwundu, and our of the bench pg.

I would never do this. I wiuld settle for
Bamba, Gordon
Powell, Boban, 2nd, top 10 prot 25. Maybe i coul stretch it ti a 2nd 2nd

[dirkforpres]

Mavs receive;

Mo Bamba
Aaron Gordon
Al-Farouq Aminu

Norman Powell

Raptors receive;

Maxi Kleber
Boban Marjanovic

Magic receive;

James Johnson
Josh Richardson
Jalen Brunson

One 2nd round pick from Mavericks
One 2nd round pick from Raptors

Not sure the Magic would do that. Gordon and Bamba haven’t really met the hype, but I would assume they’re still worth more than what is basically expirings and a couple 2nds

[arkuo]

Toronto's Chris Boucher looks interesting.

Averages 15 pts and 2.5 blocks. 47% 3pt FG.
6'10 PF with a 7'5 wingspan

Looks like he would pair well with KP at C.

[BlazersBroncos]

Toronto's Chris Boucher looks interesting.

Averages 15 pts and 2.5 blocks. 47% 3pt FG.
6'10 PF with a 7'5 wingspan

Looks like he would pair well with KP at C.

You think Masai is going to trade a breakout guy who he has patiently groomed for like 3 years and is locked in on a pretty friendly contract?

[arkuo]

Toronto's Chris Boucher looks interesting.

Averages 15 pts and 2.5 blocks. 47% 3pt FG.
6'10 PF with a 7'5 wingspan

Looks like he would pair well with KP at C.

You think Masai is going to trade a breakout guy who he has patiently groomed for like 3 years and is locked in on a pretty friendly contract?

Depends on how long Masai plans to stay in Toronto.

[Grumpy Heat Fan]

If the Miami Heat wanted to trade Goran Dragic....

would you guys have any interest?


Dragic and Doncic play together in overseas tournaments. They are boys and they have insane chemistry already.

A big 3 of

- Dragic
- Doncic
- Porzingis

Dragic is an excellent facilitator and a 16 ppg scorer.

Watch on YouTube

[JD45]

If the Miami Heat wanted to trade Goran Dragic....

would you guys have any interest?


Dragic and Doncic play together in overseas tournaments. They are boys and they have insane chemistry already.

A big 3 of

- Dragic
- Doncic
- Porzingis

Dragic is an excellent facilitator and a 16 ppg scorer.

Watch on YouTube

I think the Mavs would like Dragic on the team. But given his age, I doubt they would give much in return.