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Re: Malachi Flynn 

Post#241 » by Indeed » Sat Jan 16, 2021 7:00 pm

johanliebert wrote:lol the expectations have come back down to earth. People thought he should eat at freds minutes cause of two pre-season games.

Now those same people will just move their attention onto why doesn't matt thomas get any PT.


I think Flynn will take over the minutes from Thomas.
I was thinking we can move Thomas, since Nurse is not going to give him much playing time, as we do not have a rim protector to hide his defense. If we can use him to upgrade a position (eg. backup SF/PF) along with our expiring, I think that might give us more balanced roster, and may even have Watanabe promoted.

I also hope to see what Watson can do, although we are stacked at the SG spot with Powell and Davis, while SF has been Watanabe and Johnson.
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Post#242 » by Psubs » Sat Jan 16, 2021 8:49 pm

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johanliebert wrote:lol the expectations have come back down to earth. People thought he should eat at freds minutes cause of two pre-season games.

Now those same people will just move their attention onto why doesn't matt thomas get any PT.


I think Flynn will take over the minutes from Thomas.
I was thinking we can move Thomas, since Nurse is not going to give him much playing time, as we do not have a rim protector to hide his defense. If we can use him to upgrade a position (eg. backup SF/PF) along with our expiring, I think that might give us more balanced roster, and may even have Watanabe promoted.

I also hope to see what Watson can do, although we are stacked at the SG spot with Powell and Davis, while SF has been Watanabe and Johnson.


Watanabe gets 1 block per game in less than 12 mins rebs okay so I think he can be backup PF while Watson is a springy 6'6 so back SF is fine. There are just so many SGs.

SG FVV - TD - Thomas - Harris - Bembry (SG/SF barely)

Thomas and Len to Indiana for Goga Bitadze?
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Post#243 » by Indeed » Sat Jan 16, 2021 9:23 pm

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johanliebert wrote:lol the expectations have come back down to earth. People thought he should eat at freds minutes cause of two pre-season games.

Now those same people will just move their attention onto why doesn't matt thomas get any PT.


I think Flynn will take over the minutes from Thomas.
I was thinking we can move Thomas, since Nurse is not going to give him much playing time, as we do not have a rim protector to hide his defense. If we can use him to upgrade a position (eg. backup SF/PF) along with our expiring, I think that might give us more balanced roster, and may even have Watanabe promoted.

I also hope to see what Watson can do, although we are stacked at the SG spot with Powell and Davis, while SF has been Watanabe and Johnson.


Watanabe gets 1 block per game in less than 12 mins rebs okay so I think he can be backup PF while Watson is a springy 6'6 so back SF is fine. There are just so many SGs.

SG FVV - TD - Thomas - Harris - Bembry (SG/SF barely)

Thomas and Len to Indiana for Goga Bitadze?


Our 20th DefRtg and 17th OffRtg do not seem to be ok to have any more undersize players even at our backup positions.

I think Watanabe should be the backup SF and Watson may share the backup SG duty. We also need Len against bigger C, where Bitadze does not seem to be better than Len regardless. We may consider trading Thomas who may not get much playing time for a future pick, then we may flip that pick along with our expiring for a bigger contract.

I wonder if the Kings and Bulls are prepared to make some trades soon. Kings has many PF or C (Bagley, Parker, Metu, Bjelica, Holmes), maybe they will trade one of the under performing PF.
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Post#244 » by LBJKB24MJ23 » Sat Jan 16, 2021 9:32 pm

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johanliebert wrote:lol the expectations have come back down to earth. People thought he should eat at freds minutes cause of two pre-season games.

Now those same people will just move their attention onto why doesn't matt thomas get any PT.


I think Flynn will take over the minutes from Thomas.
I was thinking we can move Thomas, since Nurse is not going to give him much playing time, as we do not have a rim protector to hide his defense. If we can use him to upgrade a position (eg. backup SF/PF) along with our expiring, I think that might give us more balanced roster, and may even have Watanabe promoted.

I also hope to see what Watson can do, although we are stacked at the SG spot with Powell and Davis, while SF has been Watanabe and Johnson.


ya Thomas isn't as good on D as Flynn. Thomas' minutes have been cut drastically. which is not the answer imho but the raps have analytics and movements of Thomas over the course of his minutes, so they would know better than all of us. same goes with TD3 as well with his yo-yo minutes.
raf1995 wrote:I just don’t think he has that kind of potential. I think we will regret not trading him for a haul in a few years when he’s a mid-tier starter with nice playmaking and defense and a shaky jumper.
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Post#245 » by PhilBlackson » Sat Jan 16, 2021 9:37 pm

Should've drafted Maledon....I'll never let that go.
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Post#246 » by Indeed » Sat Jan 16, 2021 9:54 pm

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johanliebert wrote:lol the expectations have come back down to earth. People thought he should eat at freds minutes cause of two pre-season games.

Now those same people will just move their attention onto why doesn't matt thomas get any PT.


I think Flynn will take over the minutes from Thomas.
I was thinking we can move Thomas, since Nurse is not going to give him much playing time, as we do not have a rim protector to hide his defense. If we can use him to upgrade a position (eg. backup SF/PF) along with our expiring, I think that might give us more balanced roster, and may even have Watanabe promoted.

I also hope to see what Watson can do, although we are stacked at the SG spot with Powell and Davis, while SF has been Watanabe and Johnson.


ya Thomas isn't as good on D as Flynn. Thomas' minutes have been cut drastically. which is not the answer imho but the raps have analytics and movements of Thomas over the course of his minutes, so they would know better than all of us. same goes with TD3 as well with his yo-yo minutes.


I just think Flynn may able to shoot like Thomas, and he has quicker feet to be an acceptable defender. Therefore, we may not need Thomas regardless.
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Post#247 » by tecumseh18 » Sat Jan 16, 2021 10:04 pm

PhilBlackson wrote:Should've drafted Maledon....I'll never let that go.


Wow, Maledon got 10 points last night. Was -20 in 15 minutes in a 2-point win over *checks notes* Da Bulls!

Yeah, the verdict is in - Masai, Bobby and Dan Tolzman are idiots.
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Post#248 » by YogurtProducer » Sat Jan 16, 2021 10:07 pm

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PhilBlackson wrote:Should've drafted Maledon....I'll never let that go.


Wow, Maledon got 10 points last night. Was -20 in 15 minutes in a 2-point win over *checks notes* Da Bulls!

Yeah, the verdict is in - Masai, Bobby and Dan Tolzman are idiots.

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Post#249 » by LBJKB24MJ23 » Sat Jan 16, 2021 10:23 pm

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I think Flynn will take over the minutes from Thomas.
I was thinking we can move Thomas, since Nurse is not going to give him much playing time, as we do not have a rim protector to hide his defense. If we can use him to upgrade a position (eg. backup SF/PF) along with our expiring, I think that might give us more balanced roster, and may even have Watanabe promoted.

I also hope to see what Watson can do, although we are stacked at the SG spot with Powell and Davis, while SF has been Watanabe and Johnson.


ya Thomas isn't as good on D as Flynn. Thomas' minutes have been cut drastically. which is not the answer imho but the raps have analytics and movements of Thomas over the course of his minutes, so they would know better than all of us. same goes with TD3 as well with his yo-yo minutes.


I just think Flynn may able to shoot like Thomas, and he has quicker feet to be an acceptable defender. Therefore, we may not need Thomas regardless.


mr 99%? lol. I don't think there is as good of a shooter as Thomas on this team. Thomas is guarded more closely than Flynn will ever be this season, hence why Thomas isn't able to get that many great shots off. and if you're a one trick pony, its easier for Nurse to bench you.
raf1995 wrote:I just don’t think he has that kind of potential. I think we will regret not trading him for a haul in a few years when he’s a mid-tier starter with nice playmaking and defense and a shaky jumper.
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Post#250 » by Indeed » Sat Jan 16, 2021 11:53 pm

LBJKB24MJ23 wrote:
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ya Thomas isn't as good on D as Flynn. Thomas' minutes have been cut drastically. which is not the answer imho but the raps have analytics and movements of Thomas over the course of his minutes, so they would know better than all of us. same goes with TD3 as well with his yo-yo minutes.


I just think Flynn may able to shoot like Thomas, and he has quicker feet to be an acceptable defender. Therefore, we may not need Thomas regardless.


mr 99%? lol. I don't think there is as good of a shooter as Thomas on this team. Thomas is guarded more closely than Flynn will ever be this season, hence why Thomas isn't able to get that many great shots off. and if you're a one trick pony, its easier for Nurse to bench you.


I think you are underrating Thomas, he is more than a one trick pony. His ball handling is good enough as a guard, and his passing/vision is underrated. Plus his decision making is above average. He is not as good as some 6th man to draw fouls or get into the lane, but his offense can be a big part of any bench lineup. His salary at 1.6m is very good any playoff teams.
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Post#251 » by OAKLEY_2 » Sun Jan 17, 2021 1:15 pm

PhilBlackson wrote:Should've drafted Maledon....I'll never let that go.


And he is doing what right now?
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Post#252 » by WaltFrazier » Sun Jan 17, 2021 1:32 pm

Flynn does good things, is a natural PG unlike Fred. He is being broken in slowly, being used just right at the moment. He and Kyle had a nice stretch together in the first half, the ball moved better than when Fred came back in. But damn Flynn is so small. He is not the replacement for Kyle going forward. Nice backup PG in the future though.
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Post#253 » by SurgeIblocka » Sun Jan 17, 2021 4:47 pm

Flynn is not going to do much in this league unless he improves his shooting. He misses way to many open shots, and for him being so small and thin hell be guarded easily. He definitely needs to work on his shooting.
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Post#254 » by Dalek » Sun Jan 17, 2021 4:59 pm

Flynn has been terrible. I was a huge advocate to give him minutes but he is a liability on the court when he gets in. He is late on his rotations, misses a lot of open shots and is under 30% from the field and three. Like he needs GLeague reps he is that bad.

I wanted Xavier Tillman more and thought he would be a perfect fit here and he just got 15 points 4 rebounds and 4 steals against Philly and has double digit scoring over his last two.

Desmond Bane is 48% from the field and three.

Undrafted Mason Jones just dropped 24 and 4 in his first start.

Jordan Nwora is 50% from three.

I mean those are all players who we knew what they could do well in college, had translatable size and skill and are already performing. Even Maledon in a small role is better than Flynn in every aspect and he is younger and much bigger.

It was a bad draft but it feels like Toronto got a guy that is less NBA ready than we thought and it is annoying because everyone knew he had low upside because of his size and athleticism. Hopefully he figures it out soon because I am beginning to side with Nick about limiting his minutes. He is not productive.
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Post#255 » by Duffman100 » Sun Jan 17, 2021 5:21 pm

Yeah I really really really wanted Tillman. Especially with our questionable big depth.

That being said, it's early in his rookei season, so I'll give him hopes.
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Post#256 » by Psubs » Sun Jan 17, 2021 5:29 pm

Dalek wrote:Flynn has been terrible. I was a huge advocate to give him minutes but he is a liability on the court when he gets in. He is late on his rotations, misses a lot of open shots and is under 30% from the field and three. Like he needs GLeague reps he is that bad.

I wanted Xavier Tillman more and thought he would be a perfect fit here and he just got 15 points 4 rebounds and 4 steals against Philly and has double digit scoring over his last two.

Desmond Bane is 48% from the field and three.

Undrafted Mason Jones just dropped 24 and 4 in his first start.

Jordan Nwora is 50% from three.

I mean those are all players who we knew what they could do well in college, had translatable size and skill and are already performing. Even Maledon in a small role is better than Flynn in every aspect and he is younger and much bigger.

It was a bad draft but it feels like Toronto got a guy that is less NBA ready than we thought and it is annoying because everyone knew he had low upside because of his size and athleticism. Hopefully he figures it out soon because I am beginning to side with Nick about limiting his minutes. He is not productive.


Tillman is good and looks like Taj Gibson. Flynn may have a higher ceiling.

Bane is going to be a SG on the NBA level and Raptors have too many of them.

Nwora is like the forward version of Powell. He's out there to score score score.

I'm glad all of prospects that I liked including Pritchard are doing well. Even Reggie Perry is getting minutes in BK after the gutting trade.

With Tillman, the Raptors might be 8-4 instead of 4-8. :D

Though, I still like Flynn and guarding strarter level guards at the NBA level is probably the hardest thing to do.

Flyyn missed a 12 foot shot, which I felt he should've went with a floater or a bank shot from that angle. Positive is he got 3 assists and only 1 turnover. On the season he has 10 assists and 2 turnovers. The shooting will come. He's played 4 games of meaningful minutes. Be patient. Flynn looks patient out there not rushing things, either. :lol:

Imagine if the Raptors drafted Killian Hayes with 7th overall pick?!?!?!? Getting hurt takes the heat off him. He's shooting 27% and 25% from 3.6 assis and 2.4 turnovers. Detroit should've taken Haliburton. They needed the 3-pt shooting.
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Post#257 » by Psubs » Sun Jan 17, 2021 5:33 pm

Duffman100 wrote:Yeah I really really really wanted Tillman. Especially with our questionable big depth.

That being said, it's early in his rookei season, so I'll give him hopes.


I was ready to cheer for Tillman. Maledon,Flynn and Terry were next on my list. When if was Flynn, he must've really impressed in workouts because Maledon was extensively scouted.
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Post#258 » by C.Boshly » Sun Jan 17, 2021 5:50 pm

I don’t think I have ever seen a player as confused as Flynn on the court. He literally freezes in confusion 2-3 times a game. I don’t think he should be on an NBA court right now. Just the beginning of his career so he has lots of time to work out the kinks.
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Post#259 » by Danny1616 » Sun Jan 17, 2021 5:54 pm

I honestly think he's lacking confidence. He looked great in pre-season when he was running the team, but he's so tentative with the ball now. Didn't help that he's been missing a bunch of open looks when he does get some burn.

I don't think it was good for Nurse to barely play him the 1st 5 games after he played so well in pre-season. The dude is playing with no freedom, one wrong move and he's yanked.
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Post#260 » by Psubs » Sun Jan 17, 2021 6:00 pm

C.Boshly wrote:I don’t think I have ever seen a player as confused as Flynn on the court. He literally freezes in confusion 2-3 times a game. I don’t think he should be on an NBA court right now. Just the beginning of his career so he has lots of time to work out the kinks.


I feel like that's him learning. At least he's making mostly the right plays and not turning the ball over. I really liked how when they were swinging the ball around the 3pt line he bounce passed to the corner so the lunging defender couldn't deflect the pass out of bounds. I can't recall any time where another Raptor bounced it. :nod:
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