Way too early NBA draft thread 2021

[PlayerUp]

Cade, Green, Suggs, Mobley, Kuminga seems like the consensus top 5 at the moment.

Keon Johnson and Moses Moody might be the next two for me. Am I missing anyone?

There is such a major drop off in terms of talent outside those top 5. Kuminga has the biggest room to jump right now being he is the youngest and most raw of the 5.

1a. Cade
1b. Green
1c. Suggs
1d. Mobley
1e. Kuminga

After this, where do you even start is the question? I guess you just go with the highest ceiling prospect and target another Patrick Williams type prospect hopefully:

6a. Moses Moody
6b. Scottie Barnes
6c. Greg Brown
6d. Jaden Springer
6e. Daishen Nix
6f. Sharife Cooper
6g. Ziaire Williams (Cam Reddish type pick)
6h. Usman Garuba / Roko Prkacin

One big issue with this draft is it doesn't appear to be as deep as the last draft. You really don't want to be picking outside the Top 5. After those 5, just have to take a shot at the highest ceiling prospect. Maybe do a Cam Reddish type pick with Zhaire? Go international with those raw prospects? It's unclear who you'd take outside the Top 5 but things should become a bit more clear as the season progresses here.

[TheSuzerain]

Cade, Green, Suggs, Mobley, Kuminga seems like the consensus top 5 at the moment.

Keon Johnson and Moses Moody might be the next two for me. Am I missing anyone?

There is such a major drop off in terms of talent outside those top 5. Kuminga has the biggest room to jump right now being he is the youngest and most raw of the 5.

1a. Cade
1b. Green
1c. Suggs
1d. Mobley
1e. Kuminga

After this, where do you even start is the question? I guess you just go with the highest ceiling prospect and target another Patrick Williams type prospect hopefully:

6a. Moses Moody
6b. Scottie Barnes
6c. Greg Brown
6d. Jaden Springer
6e. Daishen Nix
6f. Sharife Cooper
6g. Ziaire Williams (Cam Reddish type pick)
6h. Usman Garuba / Roko Prkacin

One big issue with this draft is it doesn't appear to be as deep as the last draft. You really don't want to be picking outside the Top 5. After those 5, just have to take a shot at the highest ceiling prospect. Maybe do a Cam Reddish type pick with Zhaire? Go international with those raw prospects? It's unclear who you'd take outside the Top 5 but things should become a bit more clear as the season progresses here.

I think you're missing some dudes. No way are Greg Brown, Scottie Barnes, or Sharife Cooper in that 2nd tier.

6-10 for me would be:
Keon Johnson
Moses Moody
Franz Wagner
Usman Garuba
Ziaire Williams (I guess?)

[PlayerUp]

Imagine drafting Killian Hayes because we needed a bigger point guard to play alongside Coby and then they both end up being busts. Glad im not the GM. I did want Haliburton though for whatever it's worth.

Haliburton statistically is the best rookie so far in the 2020 draft class. We all knew this was going to happen. He was the most developed skill PG in the draft. People argued his ceiling though which is why they were more favoring Killian who so far looks like a complete bust.

[PlayerUp]

Cade, Green, Suggs, Mobley, Kuminga seems like the consensus top 5 at the moment.

Keon Johnson and Moses Moody might be the next two for me. Am I missing anyone?

There is such a major drop off in terms of talent outside those top 5. Kuminga has the biggest room to jump right now being he is the youngest and most raw of the 5.

1a. Cade
1b. Green
1c. Suggs
1d. Mobley
1e. Kuminga

After this, where do you even start is the question? I guess you just go with the highest ceiling prospect and target another Patrick Williams type prospect hopefully:

6a. Moses Moody
6b. Scottie Barnes
6c. Greg Brown
6d. Jaden Springer
6e. Daishen Nix
6f. Sharife Cooper
6g. Ziaire Williams (Cam Reddish type pick)
6h. Usman Garuba / Roko Prkacin

One big issue with this draft is it doesn't appear to be as deep as the last draft. You really don't want to be picking outside the Top 5. After those 5, just have to take a shot at the highest ceiling prospect. Maybe do a Cam Reddish type pick with Zhaire? Go international with those raw prospects? It's unclear who you'd take outside the Top 5 but things should become a bit more clear as the season progresses here.

I think you're missing some dudes. No way are Greg Brown, Scottie Barnes, or Sharife Cooper in that 2nd tier.

6-10 for me would be:
Keon Johnson
Moses Moody
Franz Wagner
Usman Garuba
Ziaire Williams (I guess?)

My secondary tier list above is more a lets see what these prospects above can do for the remainder of the season list. I am not particularly excited about any of those 6-10 prospects on your or my list. At this point I am waiting this out a bit before I make an official 6-10 list. Some of these prospects could drop off a bit and some could rise. Here is to hoping Zhaire, Daishen, BJ and some of these international prospects start playing really good ball to change things up.

[PlayerUp]

I think you're missing some dudes. No way are Greg Brown, Scottie Barnes, or Sharife Cooper in that 2nd tier.

6-10 for me would be:
Keon Johnson
Moses Moody
Franz Wagner
Usman Garuba
Ziaire Williams (I guess?)

Of your 5 above, I'd go Moody or Zhaire. Zhaire has not played well but has the highest ceiling of those 5.

[WindyCityBorn]

We need a PG in this upcoming draft.

[TheSuzerain]

I think you're missing some dudes. No way are Greg Brown, Scottie Barnes, or Sharife Cooper in that 2nd tier.

6-10 for me would be:
Keon Johnson
Moses Moody
Franz Wagner
Usman Garuba
Ziaire Williams (I guess?)

Of your 5 above, I'd go Moody or Zhaire. Zhaire has not played well but has the highest ceiling of those 5.

Keon definitely has the highest ceiling. He's an insane athlete.

[Pax for Prez]

I think you're missing some dudes. No way are Greg Brown, Scottie Barnes, or Sharife Cooper in that 2nd tier.

6-10 for me would be:
Keon Johnson
Moses Moody
Franz Wagner
Usman Garuba
Ziaire Williams (I guess?)

Of your 5 above, I'd go Moody or Zhaire. Zhaire has not played well but has the highest ceiling of those 5.

Keon definitely has the highest ceiling. He's an insane athlete.

Wagner & Garuba would be in the 3rd tier for me behind Johnson, Moody and Williams in the 2nd tier

[PlayerUp]

I think you're missing some dudes. No way are Greg Brown, Scottie Barnes, or Sharife Cooper in that 2nd tier.

6-10 for me would be:
Keon Johnson
Moses Moody
Franz Wagner
Usman Garuba
Ziaire Williams (I guess?)

Of your 5 above, I'd go Moody or Zhaire. Zhaire has not played well but has the highest ceiling of those 5.

Keon definitely has the highest ceiling. He's an insane athlete.

Let me look into him more. Both TEN prospects I haven't had much time looking at because they started the season late.

[PlayerUp]

Of your 5 above, I'd go Moody or Zhaire. Zhaire has not played well but has the highest ceiling of those 5.

Keon definitely has the highest ceiling. He's an insane athlete.

Wagner & Garuba would be in the 3rd tier for me behind Johnson, Moody and Williams in the 2nd tier

Have 0 interest in Wagner. Late 1st Rd Pick. Nothing interests me in Garuba but he is obviously very raw.

[Kukoc-Lauri]

After top 5 highest celling have guys like Zhaire Williams, Jalen Johnson, BJ Boston (so far awful), Keon Johnson, Terrence Clarke, James Bouknight, Gregg Brown, Usman Garuba, Roko Prkacin, Kai Jones, Mosses Moody, Terrennce Shannon. Unfortunately i see us ending up between 5-12 and picking good but not elite player. If we miss on top 5, we should go PWill routte so Gregg Brown, Zhaire Williams, Scottie Barnes or Jalen Johnson.

[PlayerUp]

BJ Boston (so far awful)

The one thing about BJ Boston though is Kentucky players just absolutely do well in the NBA and they are always undervalued. Look at the recent 1st Round Picks out of Kentucky past 5 drafts:

Tyrese Maxey
Immanuel Quickley
P.J. Washington
Tyler Herro
Keldon Johnson
Kevin Knox (Bust)
Shai Gilgeous-Alexander
De'Aaron Fox
Malik Monk (Bust)
Bam Adebayo
Jamal Murray
Karl-Anthony Towns
Willie Cauley-Stein (Bust)
Trey Lyles (Bust)
Devin Booker

4 busts, 11 good value picks

This draft outside of the Top 5 has some talent but these prospects are playing so poorly. Zhaire, BJ, Cooper, etc.

Cam Reddish and Cole Anthony also played poorly in college. Reddish has still yet to consistently play well in the NBA shooting 37.8% this season and Cole Anthony is shooting 33.3% so going after guys like Zhaire, BJ, Cooper who struggle with efficiency in college probably not a good idea.

While Kentucky players translate well in the NBA, BJ is really struggling to the point you can't even really consider him. BJ is someone I see being a Malik Monk type player in the NBA.

[PlayerUp]

We need a PG in this upcoming draft.

Wrong draft. We had an opportunity last draft with LaMelo, Killian, Tyrese and Kira. Unless we land a Top 4 Pick, we are unlikely to grab a point guard. Daishen Nix maybe the only riser unless you want to gamble on Sharife Cooper which I wouldn't do.

[WindyCityBorn]

We need a PG in this upcoming draft.

Wrong draft. We had an opportunity last draft with LaMelo, Killian, Tyrese and Kira. Unless we land a Top 4 Pick, we are unlikely to grab a point guard. Daishen Nix maybe the only riser unless you want to gamble on Sharife Cooper which I wouldn't do.

I think we got the right player in this draft so no complaints on that.. Might have to trade for or sign one then. Could get lucky and get a top 4 pick too.

[Chi town]

We need a PG in this upcoming draft.

I like Scottie Pippen Jr. Scoring like crazy this season with basically no talent at Vandy. 21 and 6. Ok 3 ball.

I’d also like to see what we have in Dotson.

If we got a 6-10 pick I’d ship it out for Hali. He would be such a good fit here.

[Chi town]

We need a PG in this upcoming draft.

Wrong draft. We had an opportunity last draft with LaMelo, Killian, Tyrese and Kira. Unless we land a Top 4 Pick, we are unlikely to grab a point guard. Daishen Nix maybe the only riser unless you want to gamble on Sharife Cooper which I wouldn't do.

I think we got the right player in this draft so no complaints on that.. Might have to trade for or sign one then. Could get lucky and get a top 4 pick too.

I think AK will look for a vet. Maybe Conley on a one year deal?

[DroseReturnChi]

Imagine drafting Killian Hayes because we needed a bigger point guard to play alongside Coby and then they both end up being busts. Glad im not the GM. I did want Haliburton though for whatever it's worth.

Haliburton statistically is the best rookie so far in the 2020 draft class. We all knew this was going to happen. He was the most developed skill PG in the draft. People argued his ceiling though which is why they were more favoring Killian who so far looks like a complete bust.

this is why you dont draft for fit. there was a lot of experts here draft hayes over hali. you draft guys for skills not potential.

[Chi town]

One thing that has really flashed for Hali is his length defensively. We will see how his frame holds up and how he adds muscle but those long arms are a menace.

[Chicagoat]

It's waaaaay too early to call Hayes a bust. Like the season only started and his season just ended early due to an injury. I am still a believer in Hayes.

[StunnerKO]

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