Official Speculation Thread '20-'21 VII: Magic Expected To Retain Core

MasterGMer · Post #81 » by **MasterGMer** » Sun Jan 17, 2021 10:41 pm

Maybe some of you are right. We need change and upgrade at PG.

nicnac215 · Post #82 » by **nicnac215** » Mon Jan 18, 2021 12:54 am

I wouldn’t mind Michael Beasley on a 10 day contract just to have another body who can at least score in limited minutes

The Effect · Post #83 » by **The Effect** » Mon Jan 18, 2021 7:06 am

pepe1991 wrote:
Bensational wrote:
MagicFan101 wrote:
I don’t want Kemba or Smart. They would make us better. I want to tank.

Could we get Langford AND Nesmith + a 2021 FRP if we take back Tristan Thompson?

Then we need to dump some roster spots or ship out Evan for cash / 2nd rounders.

Can Kemba be flipped to another team, like New Orleans, for some of their pieces?

BOS: Vuc
NOP: Kemba
ORL: Bledsoe + NAW/Lonzo + pick?

Bledsoe can be a short term stopgap PG until Fultz is healthy, and shipped off after that.

Pelicans allegedly want Irving....

Durant loves vuc, nets need a center..........

The Effect · Post #84 » by **The Effect** » Mon Jan 18, 2021 7:09 am

Skin wrote:
Knightro wrote:
Skin wrote:Our draft thread is the funniest place on Earth. Talking about Top 5 prospects that we can land.

Point differential wise, the Magic are the third-worst team in the NBA right now.

They're a Vucevic sprained ankle away from like a 15+ game losing streak.

Losing is the only thing that will bring change. We NEED change.

Well we are on wht, a 5 game losing streak since losing fultz? DOnt really think it would take a vuc injury to go on a long streak

But all the more reason to play for next year.
Trade Vuc, Trade Evan, trade AG (sad to say that one) even if all youre getting back is mid-late 1st round picks and expiring contracts

Even healthy, this team isnt going anywhere and needs to be rebooted asap

Post #85 » by **Knightro** » Mon Jan 18, 2021 5:05 pm

Read on Twitter

I've heard a lot of rumblings that Kevin Porter Jr. is a massive problem child and has extreme immaturity issues, but if you're the Magic and you have no young talent on the wing, you have to at least inquire if they're looking to give him away.

Porter Jr. and Cole Anthony worked out quite a bit together over the summer.

MagicFan101 · Post #86 » by **MagicFan101** » Mon Jan 18, 2021 5:16 pm

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/30735990/sources-cleveland-cavaliers-look-trade-waive-kevin-porter-jr-outburst

I don’t care about his immaturity issues right now. We have Cliff as our coach and for better or for worse he does have some use in certain areas.

We need young raw talent on the cheap.

Make it happen WeHam.

Skybox · Post #87 » by **Skybox** » Mon Jan 18, 2021 5:17 pm

Knightro wrote:

Read on Twitter

I've heard a lot of rumblings that Kevin Porter Jr. is a massive problem child and has extreme immaturity issues, but if you're the Magic and you have no young talent on the wing, you have to at least inquire if they're looking to give him away.

Porter Jr. and Cole Anthony worked out quite a bit together over the summer.

JUMP on that...what's the worst that could happen to this season?...don't let the Lakers or Heat scoop him up and make him a star.

Skybox · Post #88 » by **Skybox** » Mon Jan 18, 2021 5:25 pm

How about Aminu and a 2rp for Porter and Prince?

We could use Prince and CLE could use a legit vet PF to protect their waterbug backcourt (along with their pack of Centers)

MoMM · Post #89 » by **MoMM** » Mon Jan 18, 2021 5:26 pm

Yes, let's sign him or maybe even offer a 2nd round pick. No risk at all.

We have a TPE and he is locked in a small deal anyway.

Post #90 » by **Knightro** » Mon Jan 18, 2021 5:36 pm

Like... the stories I've heard about Porter Jr are really not good. He sounds like a guy who can barely function as an adult.

I don't think he's a guy that the organization would touch.

But as far as on the court, the Magic desperately need youth on the wing.

MagicFan101 · Post #91 » by **MagicFan101** » Mon Jan 18, 2021 5:42 pm

Knightro wrote:Like... the stories I've heard about Porter Jr are really not good. He sounds like a guy who can barely function as an adult.

I don't think he's a guy that the organization would touch.

But as far as on the court, the Magic desperately need youth on the wing.

I’m sure there are stories we haven’t heard yet.

We have all read about the felony gun charge (dismissed) the misdemeanor weed charges the driving charges and more.

Now we have issues in the locker room boiling over to the point of warranting a trade or even being waived.

This kid is trouble and needs to get his head on straight.

However ... he is talented. We need to be the team that gives him a chance to pull his life together.

MoMM · Post #92 » by **MoMM** » Mon Jan 18, 2021 5:46 pm

MagicFan101 wrote:
Knightro wrote:Like... the stories I've heard about Porter Jr are really not good. He sounds like a guy who can barely function as an adult.

I don't think he's a guy that the organization would touch.

But as far as on the court, the Magic desperately need youth on the wing.

I’m sure there are stories we haven’t heard yet.

We have all read about the felony gun charge (dismissed) the misdemeanor weed charges the driving charges and more.

Now we have issues in the locker room boiling over to the point of warranting a trade or even being waived.

This kid is trouble and needs to get his head on straight.

However ... he is talented. We need to be the team that gives him a chance to pull his life together.

Exactly and perhaps this waiving stuff makes he turn the page.

Skybox · Post #93 » by **Skybox** » Mon Jan 18, 2021 6:24 pm

Becoming the rehab franchise of the league could bear big fruit...Pick guys up for nothing and give them a shot. It's like a secondary draft. Some will work out, most will not.

thelead · Post #94 » by **thelead** » Mon Jan 18, 2021 6:27 pm

Don’t be desperate for head cases. A mean streak is one thing, being completely brain dead is another. We don’t need Porter. We need a star.

Husky1 · Post #95 » by **Husky1** » Mon Jan 18, 2021 6:42 pm

Long way to go but this looks pretty close to rock bottom as a franchise. Hope Vooch demands a trade from this crap. Feel sorry for him

jonbob17 · Post #96 » by **jonbob17** » Mon Jan 18, 2021 7:31 pm

AG and Vuc 36 minutes, Ross 33 minutes. This team ain't tanking they are just dreadful, but they will win some games against teams equally awful or with COVID, injury, or coming off back to backs.

I went from loving this team last year at the beginning of the bubble to just loathing it. They should call this team the hate and hustle team.

cedric76 · Post #97 » by **cedric76** » Mon Jan 18, 2021 7:41 pm

jonbob17 wrote:AG and Vuc 36 minutes, Ross 33 minutes. This team ain't tanking they are just dreadful, but they will win some games against teams equally awful or with COVID, injury, or coming off back to backs.

I went from loving this team last year in the at the beginning of the bubble to just loathing it. They should call this team the hate and hustle team.

We need to move AG and Ross

penny_nz · Post #98 » by **penny_nz** » Mon Jan 18, 2021 8:18 pm

Porter JR is exactly the type of the situation where an aggressive FO, decimated with injuries would take a punt to make us better right now, likely a cheap pickup and can always cut losses later. Or even picked up with a view of making us better in the future and evaluate his fit / maturity in a new environment this season (we've got plenty of good locker room guys here).

But I have full confidence they will sit and do nothing and we'll continue to middle our way through the season.

pepe1991 · Post #99 » by **pepe1991** » Mon Jan 18, 2021 9:20 pm

Yea, that kid is nutcase and won't be suprised if GMs between themselfs, behind a doors agree to blacklist him

"Porter, 20, was arrested on Nov. 15 after a middle-of-the-night crash when he flipped his Mercedes SUV. He admitted to have been drinking earlier in the evening, and when police searched the car, they found a loaded handgun in the glove compartment and a small amount of marijuana.

A grand jury declined to indict Porter on a felony weapons charge after he was able to prove he didn't know the gun was in the car. Police also determined he was not impaired at the time of the accident. A judge dismissed the misdemeanor pot charge.

In October, Porter raised alarms when he posted a black square on his Instagram with the message "Do you ever wish to see the end of your time?" After Cavs officials and teammates reached out, Porter deleted his Instagram account."

Magicfanatic82 · Post #100 » by **Magicfanatic82** » Mon Jan 18, 2021 10:25 pm

We have alot of solid character guys. He could be worth a look. Josh Jackson was a problem and has sort of been rebuilding himself. Cliff will have rules and wont gift him anything.