Hard to Believe Ainge will Make any Move Soon Trade Thread

[bucknersrevenge]

Would trade any pick and any player not named Brown, Tatum or Pritchard over to Washington for a Beal and Bertans package.

This team has so much dead weight on its roster and that includes Kemba, Theis and even Smart.

If we're calling out trades that have no chance of happening, I just assume go for Lebron.

Yeah you just listed the only three players that have any type of value. Smart and Theis did before the season but have both been atrocious to start. Ainge should have moved Smart when his value peaked.

I know its considered borderline blasphemous in many Celtics fan circles to talk about trading Marcus, and it's probably unlikely that he will be but I think he might be priced out of Boston for his next contract. With Tatum's contract set to kick in, if we add a guy or 2 with that TPE, you have to sacrifice Marcus. I know what Wyc said about paying but Marcus isn't a guy you pay into the tax for in my opinion.

[CelticFaninLBC]

Go get Aaron Gordon and PJ Tucker who are upgrades over Theis and Grant Williams.

[bisme37]

Seems like giving a couple 2nds for Tucker is a no brainer but maybe I'm missing something?

Kevin Porter... I don't understand why the Cavs gave his locker away while he's still on their team, and I can understand him being mad about it even though I'm opposed to angrily throwing food. That said, he's not a very good player. So the food throwing thing is of less of a concern to me that that.

[JediMasterRevan]

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I know he has problems, but do it Danny

Porter, 20, has yet to play this season due to personal issues. On Friday, the night he joined his teammates and made a positive stride toward returning, Porter grew angry when he entered the locker room and realized the team gave his old locker to new arrival Taurean Prince, who was acquired in the James Harden trade Wednesday. That petty outburst led to general manager Koby Altman Altman entering the locker room to talk with Porter, who didn’t cool down. Porter did not practice the next day.

Porter was involved in a one-car accident in November. He was arrested and charged with improper handling of a firearm in a motor vehicle, failure to control the vehicle and misdemeanor possession of marijuana. All of those charges were dismissed.

https://www.cleveland.com/cavs/2021/01/cleveland-cavaliers-to-move-on-from-troubled-swingman-kevin-porter-jr-sources-say.html

Kid got pissed that team gave his locker to Prince.

If team gives away your locker and you dont get pissed I wouldnt want you on my team.

[JediMasterRevan]

Seems like giving a couple 2nds for Tucker is a no brainer but maybe I'm missing something?

Kevin Porter... I don't understand why the Cavs gave his locker away while he's still on their team, and I can understand him being mad about it even though I'm opposed to angrily throwing food. That said, he's not a very good player. So the food throwing thing is of less of a concern to me that that.

He is better than Edwards with the potential to be a legit player in the league.

I would gladly drop edwards and take on Porter.

[bucknersrevenge]

Seems like giving a couple 2nds for Tucker is a no brainer but maybe I'm missing something?

Kevin Porter... I don't understand why the Cavs gave his locker away while he's still on their team, and I can understand him being mad about it even though I'm opposed to angrily throwing food. That said, he's not a very good player. So the food throwing thing is of less of a concern to me that that.

The only thing I can think of that you could be missing is the realization that the market for Tucker could be huge and 2 2nds may not be enough for an elite role player like him. I know Minnesota is very interested and so will at least a half a dozen teams.

[bisme37]

Seems like giving a couple 2nds for Tucker is a no brainer but maybe I'm missing something?

Kevin Porter... I don't understand why the Cavs gave his locker away while he's still on their team, and I can understand him being mad about it even though I'm opposed to angrily throwing food. That said, he's not a very good player. So the food throwing thing is of less of a concern to me that that.

The only thing I can think of that you could be missing is the realization that the market for Tucker could be huge and 2 2nds may not be enough for an elite role player like him. I know Minnesota is very interested and so will at least a half a dozen teams.

Well yeah maybe it turns out that way. But the news today says Houston is asking for three 2nd rounders, so I'm figuring if that's their starting point they'd be willing to go down to two 2nd rounders with some negotiation.

[bisme37]

Seems like giving a couple 2nds for Tucker is a no brainer but maybe I'm missing something?

Kevin Porter... I don't understand why the Cavs gave his locker away while he's still on their team, and I can understand him being mad about it even though I'm opposed to angrily throwing food. That said, he's not a very good player. So the food throwing thing is of less of a concern to me that that.

He is better than Edwards with the potential to be a legit player in the league.

I would gladly drop edwards and take on Porter.

But Edwards is nailed to the bench and doesn't play anyway. So it makes little sense to replace him with a guy who may be slightly better but will also not play and may be prone to throwing food at his teammates.

[JediMasterRevan]

Seems like giving a couple 2nds for Tucker is a no brainer but maybe I'm missing something?

Kevin Porter... I don't understand why the Cavs gave his locker away while he's still on their team, and I can understand him being mad about it even though I'm opposed to angrily throwing food. That said, he's not a very good player. So the food throwing thing is of less of a concern to me that that.

He is better than Edwards with the potential to be a legit player in the league.

I would gladly drop edwards and take on Porter.

But Edwards is nailed to the bench and doesn't play anyway. So it makes little sense to replace him with a guy who may be slightly better but will also not play and may be prone to throwing food at his teammates.

I think KP plays over Green and Semi and Carson and Nesmith right now. Only bench guards above him might be romeo.

Also, as long as team doesnt give away his locker he wont throw food.

[Gomes3PC]

If Carsen couldn't find time during the first 10 games after the Kemba injury and the rash of COVID, he's just not gonna play ever. I'd drop him in a heartbeat for Kevin Porter.

[bisme37]

He is better than Edwards with the potential to be a legit player in the league.

I would gladly drop edwards and take on Porter.

But Edwards is nailed to the bench and doesn't play anyway. So it makes little sense to replace him with a guy who may be slightly better but will also not play and may be prone to throwing food at his teammates.

I think KP plays over Green and Semi and Carson and Nesmith right now. Only bench guards above him might be romeo.

Also, as long as team doesnt give away his locker he wont throw food.

I think the difference of opinion we're having stems from you think Porter is a lot better than I think he is. This isn't Michael Porter, it's Kevin Porter. He hasn't played at all this year and last year averaged 10 points on lousy percentages for an awful team.

Also the GB just reminded me he's recently been under investigation for multiple felonies so there's that.

[bisme37]

As a general note I don't get why we get so fired up about who the 15th man is. I'm not a big Carsen guy either, but every team has a couple guys at the end of the bench who aren't very good and rarely play. The 15th man is not going to make a difference no matter who it is.

[Celts17Pride]

As a general note I don't get why we get so fired up about who the 15th man is. I'm not a big Carsen guy either, but every team has a couple guys at the end of the bench who aren't very good and rarely play. The 15th man is not going to make a difference no matter who it is.

Unless you replace the 15th man with a 9th best man and your 14th best man slides to the 15th slot.

[BigTrade92]

Don't we already a second year Small Forward who can't seem to stay on the court?

No thanks on trading for another with anger issues.

[grindtime22]

But Edwards is nailed to the bench and doesn't play anyway. So it makes little sense to replace him with a guy who may be slightly better but will also not play and may be prone to throwing food at his teammates.

I think KP plays over Green and Semi and Carson and Nesmith right now. Only bench guards above him might be romeo.

Also, as long as team doesnt give away his locker he wont throw food.

I think the difference of opinion we're having stems from you think Porter is a lot better than I think he is. This isn't Michael Porter, it's Kevin Porter. He hasn't played at all this year and last year averaged 10 points on lousy percentages for an awful team.

Also the GB just reminded me he's recently been under investigation for multiple felonies so there's that.

Yeah, he has issues. He had issues in college. He hasn't played this year, because he has issues. They gave away his locker, because he has issues.

If this was a single food fight incident, they wouldn't be ready to waive him.

[yeleven11]

I think KP plays over Green and Semi and Carson and Nesmith right now. Only bench guards above him might be romeo.

Also, as long as team doesnt give away his locker he wont throw food.

I think the difference of opinion we're having stems from you think Porter is a lot better than I think he is. This isn't Michael Porter, it's Kevin Porter. He hasn't played at all this year and last year averaged 10 points on lousy percentages for an awful team.

Also the GB just reminded me he's recently been under investigation for multiple felonies so there's that.

Yeah, he has issues. He had issues in college. He hasn't played this year, because he has issues. They gave away his locker, because he has issues.

If this was a single food fight incident, they wouldn't be ready to waive him.

The kid is 20 and has a ton of talent. Yes, he has issues, lots of them but this is the type of risk I want to see the team take, especially given how much we talk about how good the Celtics are as an organization. The kid definitely needs some help but I'm all for trading a second for him and have him surrounded by good vets in our locker room to sort out some of the off-court concerns. I doubt Danny goes for it tho.

[bisme37]

I think the difference of opinion we're having stems from you think Porter is a lot better than I think he is. This isn't Michael Porter, it's Kevin Porter. He hasn't played at all this year and last year averaged 10 points on lousy percentages for an awful team.

Also the GB just reminded me he's recently been under investigation for multiple felonies so there's that.

Yeah, he has issues. He had issues in college. He hasn't played this year, because he has issues. They gave away his locker, because he has issues.

If this was a single food fight incident, they wouldn't be ready to waive him.

The kid is 20 and has a ton of talent. Yes, he has issues, lots of them but this is the type of risk I want to see the team take, especially given how much we talk about how good the Celtics are as an organization. The kid definitely needs some help but I'm all for trading a second for him and have him surrounded by good vets in our locker room to sort out some of the off-court concerns. I doubt Danny goes for it tho.

I don't really see how our vets are going to help him sort out his drug, weapons, and wife beating charges.

[bisme37]

As a general note I don't get why we get so fired up about who the 15th man is. I'm not a big Carsen guy either, but every team has a couple guys at the end of the bench who aren't very good and rarely play. The 15th man is not going to make a difference no matter who it is.

Unless you replace the 15th man with a 9th best man and your 14th best man slides to the 15th slot.

Point taken but surely we aren't so down on our team that we think a guy who does not play for the Cavs would be our 9th best player.

[Celts17Pride]

As a general note I don't get why we get so fired up about who the 15th man is. I'm not a big Carsen guy either, but every team has a couple guys at the end of the bench who aren't very good and rarely play. The 15th man is not going to make a difference no matter who it is.

Unless you replace the 15th man with a 9th best man and your 14th best man slides to the 15th slot.

Point taken but surely we aren't so down on our team that we think a guy who does not play for the Cavs would be our 9th best player.

I personally was just talking in general terms. I don't want anything to do with KPJ

[yeleven11]

Yeah, he has issues. He had issues in college. He hasn't played this year, because he has issues. They gave away his locker, because he has issues.

If this was a single food fight incident, they wouldn't be ready to waive him.

The kid is 20 and has a ton of talent. Yes, he has issues, lots of them but this is the type of risk I want to see the team take, especially given how much we talk about how good the Celtics are as an organization. The kid definitely needs some help but I'm all for trading a second for him and have him surrounded by good vets in our locker room to sort out some of the off-court concerns. I doubt Danny goes for it tho.

I don't really see how our vets are going to help him sort out his drug, weapons, and wife beating charges.

Drug as in marijuana, which like 80% of the league smokes lol. I've seen timelord post pictures of guns in his house too, btw. They can tell him he's 20 years old and he might be screwing up his life and losing millions by deciding to carry a gun for no good reason. I forgot about the woman-beating thing tho, that seems like a mental health issue where he might need professional help.