Fake Trade Thread #3

[Snidely FC]

any chance CHI would do Daniel Gafford for Malik Monk

[JMAC3]

any chance CHI would do Daniel Gafford for Malik Monk

Of course they would, Gafford is very limited. I probably would do this as a last resort deal if I am Hornets.

[JMAC3]

With Lauri I think they are content not paying him his next contract, he's a RFA

Seriously it wouldn't take much to get him and he's been so miscoached and would be so much better in our system he would be worth the risk

I don't think anybody here is disputing that he'd be good in a Hornets uniform

I think we're disputing how cheap you think he'd be

To be fair these are type of deals I see on Bulls Forum.. Lauri/Otto/Thad/Felicio for Griffin/Grant?

That is Otto Porter expiring, Feliciano expiring, Young with only partial guarantee next season (8 of his 14 million dollars next year is unguaranteed money so good trade asset) and Lauri as a RFA for Jerami Grant (3/60) and Griffin (36 this year and 39 Player option next year).

Just goes to show you how much they don't value Markkanen.

[JMAC3]

Rozier, Monk, 2021 first for Lavine and WCJ.

New rotation
Ball- Graham
Lavine- Martin
Hayward- Martin
PJ- Bridges
WCJ- Zeller- Biz

[SWedd523]

With Lauri I think they are content not paying him his next contract, he's a RFA

Seriously it wouldn't take much to get him and he's been so miscoached and would be so much better in our system he would be worth the risk

I don't think anybody here is disputing that he'd be good in a Hornets uniform

I think we're disputing how cheap you think he'd be

To be fair these are type of deals I see on Bulls Forum.. Lauri/Otto/Thad/Felicio for Griffin/Grant?

That is Otto Porter expiring, Feliciano expiring, Young with only partial guarantee next season (8 of his 14 million dollars next year is unguaranteed money so good trade asset) and Lauri as a RFA for Jerami Grant (3/60) and Griffin (36 this year and 39 Player option next year).

Just goes to show you how much they don't value Markkanen.

I don really care how fans value players. They aren't the ones making any trades.

[cl2117]

Would you guys have any interest in Daniel Theis as a solution at center for the rest of this year? He's nothing special, but solid at everything. I could see the Hornets having a playoff push with him.

Would just be thinking Monk and some 2nds or Graham as a 3 team deal that'd get someone like PJ Tucker from Houston to Boston.

[BigSlam]

I don really care how fans value players. They aren't the ones making any trades.

Really? Why not?

"Even though (fans) have no intel on the situation of how (players) practice, their attitudes, etc. (snip) and that (fans) think they have more insight on the situation from (their) couch in a different state".

It always makes me giggle when posters take the "RealGM" site name as being that they are actually REAL General Managers of an NBA basketball team and have some sort of alignment of what an actual NBA front office would do, think or say.

[JMAC3]

I don really care how fans value players. They aren't the ones making any trades.

Really? Why not?

"Even though (fans) have no intel on the situation of how (players) practice, their attitudes, etc. (snip) and that (fans) think they have more insight on the situation from (their) couch in a different state".

It always makes me giggle when posters take the "RealGM" site name as being that they are actually REAL General Managers of an NBA basketball team and have some sort of alignment of what an actual NBA front office would do, think or say.

To me it is not whether they agree a player should be traded so therefore it will be done in real life. To me is about the opinion on someone's value who they see play every single game and have watched their team with and without said player vs the general opinion on this guy is good because he was a high pick and his stats look okay.

For instance, we all knew that Willy Hernangomez was not a great option, but someone who looked at his stats/three point shooting percentage and the fact he made an all rookie team might think he was a guy with a high upside etc. We know the warts of all our players inside and out and I would trust that the boards on this site would be the same. We would of traded Hernangomez for a years supply of tide dish detergent, which shows that we didn't value him.

So yes when I see someone looking to deal Markkanen for what appears to be pennies on the dollar or the same with Bagley/Hield then in my mind I know they must be a guy who doesn't make winning plays/has a bad attitude/or something else that is causing them to be viewed in that negative light.

Fans tend to overvalue/become attached to their players so when you see the opposite happening you know that typically means something is up.

[LofJ]

The Bulls have the cap space to retain Markkanen and add more talent. If we want him we'd have to offer a real asset in return - i.e. a lightly protected 1st round pick. Graham isn't good enough to return Markkanen in a trade (especially when he also needs to be paid).

[JMAC3]

Lavine showing up as easily a positive player here. Includes both offense and defense.

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[Braggins]

I don really care how fans value players. They aren't the ones making any trades.

Really? Why not?

"Even though (fans) have no intel on the situation of how (players) practice, their attitudes, etc. (snip) and that (fans) think they have more insight on the situation from (their) couch in a different state".

It always makes me giggle when posters take the "RealGM" site name as being that they are actually REAL General Managers of an NBA basketball team and have some sort of alignment of what an actual NBA front office would do, think or say.

I think there is some value (albeit very limited) in seeing how fans of other teams feel about trades, just because I assume some of them will have a better understanding of their players and their teams situation than someone who doesn't really follow the team, but Ive had some weird interactions asking about trades on other forums where some of the posters were acting like they were engaged in a real trade negotiation with me.

[Braggins]

Rozier, Monk, 2021 first for Lavine and WCJ.

New rotation
Ball- Graham
Lavine- Martin
Hayward- Martin
PJ- Bridges
WCJ- Zeller- Biz

Ive mostly lost interest in Wendell Carter, but man Ball/Lavine/Hayward/PJ is a damn enticing lineup 1-4.

[yosemiteben]

Would you guys have any interest in Daniel Theis as a solution at center for the rest of this year? He's nothing special, but solid at everything. I could see the Hornets having a playoff push with him.

Would just be thinking Monk and some 2nds or Graham as a 3 team deal that'd get someone like PJ Tucker from Houston to Boston.

I'd absolutely do that deal for Monk, maybe for Graham as well but probably not.

[yosemiteben]

Seering hot take that no one asked for - Ball is going to project to be so good that we'll trade him and a Harden's worth load of picks to bring Curry home.

[predators]

Seering hot take that no one asked for - Ball is going to project to be so good that we'll trade him and a Harden's worth load of picks to bring Curry home.

But like two seasons from now, when Curry is turning 35 ,already signed an extension that pays him 70 million, and starting to have ankle problems.

My less hot take here but seering hot take on the hornets subReddit, is Romeo Langford for Monk straight up.

[Chapelchilla]

Seering hot take that no one asked for - Ball is going to project to be so good that we'll trade him and a Harden's worth load of picks to bring Curry home.

But like two seasons from now, when Curry is turning 35 ,already signed an extension that pays him 70 million, and starting to have ankle problems.

My less hot take here but seering hot take on the hornets subReddit, is Romeo Langford for Monk straight up.

Sounds good to me. Langford may help, Monk may not.
I wouldn't trade Ball plus high picks for Curry at this point in their careers either.

[Soul Rebel]

Seering hot take that no one asked for - Ball is going to project to be so good that we'll trade him and a Harden's worth load of picks to bring Curry home.

But like two seasons from now, when Curry is turning 35 ,already signed an extension that pays him 70 million, and starting to have ankle problems.

My less hot take here but seering hot take on the hornets subReddit, is Romeo Langford for Monk straight up.

Seems like a "hopefully a change of scenery will do the trick" kind of trade for both parties. Langford was one of my top-3 coming out of that draft class for us and I'm assuming on a loaded C's team, he's not getting any burn. His defense is pretty tight and is def a scoring threat....but that was at Indiana, not the NBA.

He's slightly taller and a year younger than Monk, so there's that. I think he could be a great second-unit G for us and could be the first domino to fall, in order to move one of Rozier/Graham perhaps at the deadline.

I still believe in Monk and can't figure out what's going on behind the scenes and in practice to keep him buried on the bench. At this point, the frustration is annoying and if Langford is a fresh start for Borrego, let's do it. Monk probably walks this summer anyway.

[cl2117]

Would you guys have any interest in Tristan Thompson if the Celtics have to move him? Wouldn't expect anything of value back, just trying to move enough salary to stay out of the repeater tax. Monk/Thompson swap?

He's not as good as he used to be, but can still rebound like a mf. Gives you nothing on offense really at this stage though. Still an upgrade on Biz for the rest of this year.

You'd be on the hook next year as well for $9.3m. Probably an overpayment, but not massive.

[JMAC3]

Would you guys have any interest in Tristan Thompson if the Celtics have to move him? Wouldn't expect anything of value back, just trying to move enough salary to stay out of the repeater tax. Monk/Thompson swap?

He's not as good as he used to be, but can still rebound like a mf. Gives you nothing on offense really at this stage though. Still an upgrade on Biz for the rest of this year.

You'd be on the hook next year as well for $9.3m. Probably an overpayment, but not massive.

Nah that is a pass from me, think we can do better for Monk potentially and even if not, would rather roll the dice on a different center at 9 million next season.

[JMAC3]

Me beating the drum....

Wayne Ellington 20/35 from three in his last 4 games..... playing for the 3-12 pistons