Tank World Order

[T-d0t]

Not looking good for the 2 games against the Heat. They're missing Butler because of covid, Herro/Dragic because of injuries.

[720]

The NBA will reward us for having to play in Tampa and to win back the fans (it only took 5 tries)

Mobley 3.3blk per game lol Mobley and Boucher twin towers baby.

Still have PTSD from when our fans called Bosh and JO twin towers.

[LBJKB24MJ23]

The NBA will reward us for having to play in Tampa and to win back the fans (it only took 5 tries)

Mobley 3.3blk per game lol Mobley and Boucher twin towers baby.

Still have PTSD from when our fans called Bosh and JO twin towers.

ya but we had washed up JO unfortunately. definitely had no foot speed by the time he got to Toronto.

[DreamTeam09]

More than 15 teams in the NBA can not trade their pick this year or multiple picks, with some teams not owning their pick till 2028.

The raptors are not one of those 15 teams nad have multiple picks at their disposal

[Pooh_Jeter]

The Blue Jays and Shatkins are doing exactly what TWO wants done here. The crazy part is that they could have been in even better position had they pulled the chute on the AA team a year earlier and got Flaherty for Donaldson.

That team is poised for 10+ years of contention instead of desperately trying to cobble together an extra playoff run or two and setting the franchise back 5-10 years.

Instead of being a lame duck in management, Shapiro signed a 5 year extension the other week and Springer, Brantley (most likely) and more are on the way.

Say what you want about the Leafs, but they used the same model basically. Toronto isn't a traditional FA destination, but when you build an incredible infrastructure then you can use the market, city and the money to your advantage and become a true power player.

[Steelo Green]

My brothers, sometimes the swings of the season make it seem as though all hope is lost. We must go on, believe in ourselves, believe in our city.

[Steelo Green]

The Blue Jays and Shatkins are doing exactly what TWO wants done here. The crazy part is that they could have been in even better position had they pulled the chute on the AA team a year earlier and got Flaherty for Donaldson.

That team is poised for 10+ years of contention instead of desperately trying to cobble together an extra playoff run or two and setting the franchise back 5-10 years.

Instead of being a lame duck in management, Shapiro signed a 5 year extension the other week and Springer, Brantley (most likely) and more are on the way.

Say what you want about the Leafs, but they used the same model basically. Toronto isn't a traditional FA destination, but when you build an incredible infrastructure then you can use the market, city and the money to your advantage and become a true power player.

Interestingly enough with the Leafs, after decades of building the wrong way, Babcock came in and said there will be pain (referring to tanking).

Shanahan basically said we need to get better talent through the draft and not do these short cut ways of getting better and just being a middling team.

They tanked and got Matthews and Marner, one superstar and one borderline superstar as a result.

All over the news everyone said the same thing - we are ready for a rebuild, this half way in and out approach won't do it.

Leafs have all the pieces to win, but hockey with it's parity and just time to make a run, it could happen as soon as this year but could be a few years from now.

[omar36]

The Blue Jays and Shatkins are doing exactly what TWO wants done here. The crazy part is that they could have been in even better position had they pulled the chute on the AA team a year earlier and got Flaherty for Donaldson.

That team is poised for 10+ years of contention instead of desperately trying to cobble together an extra playoff run or two and setting the franchise back 5-10 years.

Instead of being a lame duck in management, Shapiro signed a 5 year extension the other week and Springer, Brantley (most likely) and more are on the way.

Say what you want about the Leafs, but they used the same model basically. Toronto isn't a traditional FA destination, but when you build an incredible infrastructure then you can use the market, city and the money to your advantage and become a true power player.

Interestingly enough with the Leafs, after decades of building the wrong way, Babcock came in and said there will be pain (referring to tanking).

Shanahan basically said we need to get better talent through the draft and not do these short cut ways of getting better and just being a middling team.

They tanked and got Matthews and Marner, one superstar and one borderline superstar as a result.

All over the news everyone said the same thing - we are ready for a rebuild, this half way in and out approach won't do it.

Leafs have all the pieces to win, but hockey with it's parity and just time to make a run, it could happen as soon as this year but could be a few years from now.

yup, the issue with the leafs seems to be their desire rather then talent. No one is doubting raptors heart, they play hard but the talent just doesnt match it. with the leafs, they have more then enough but clearly some mental stuff is holding em back, might have to do with playing in prob the worst market in the league (in terms of media/rabid fans).

likfe they tanked and with a superstar in his rookie season, you could tell they were a legit team. they go toe to toe with the bruins who are a top 5 team in 2018/2019. only last season was a big let down to me.

leafs tanked and within a few years, they have a legit championship core . dont get why ppl on here so agaisnt the tank man, it can work and its a better alternative then being a solid but nothing special team.

also before ppl say leafs trash or they havent done anything, hockey doesnt rely on superstar talent like basektball so its even more sigifcant in basketball to land a superstar. However, leafs tanking landed them 2 frnachise level players and a other high picks with great socuting team landed some good core pieces. might not win this year or next but bc of tanking, leafs may eventually win one. rmbr, it took arguably the the second/3rd best goal scorer 13 years on a stacked team to win a championship

[Pooh_Jeter]

The Blue Jays and Shatkins are doing exactly what TWO wants done here. The crazy part is that they could have been in even better position had they pulled the chute on the AA team a year earlier and got Flaherty for Donaldson.

That team is poised for 10+ years of contention instead of desperately trying to cobble together an extra playoff run or two and setting the franchise back 5-10 years.

Instead of being a lame duck in management, Shapiro signed a 5 year extension the other week and Springer, Brantley (most likely) and more are on the way.

Say what you want about the Leafs, but they used the same model basically. Toronto isn't a traditional FA destination, but when you build an incredible infrastructure then you can use the market, city and the money to your advantage and become a true power player.

Interestingly enough with the Leafs, after decades of building the wrong way, Babcock came in and said there will be pain (referring to tanking).

Shanahan basically said we need to get better talent through the draft and not do these short cut ways of getting better and just being a middling team.

They tanked and got Matthews and Marner, one superstar and one borderline superstar as a result.

All over the news everyone said the same thing - we are ready for a rebuild, this half way in and out approach won't do it.

Leafs have all the pieces to win, but hockey with it's parity and just time to make a run, it could happen as soon as this year but could be a few years from now.

yup, the issue with the leafs seems to be their desire rather then talent. No one is doubting raptors heart, they play hard but the talent just doesnt match it. with the leafs, they have more then enough but clearly some mental stuff is holding em back, might have to do with playing in prob the worst market in the league (in terms of media/rabid fans).

likfe they tanked and with a superstar in his rookie season, you could tell they were a legit team. they go toe to toe with the bruins who are a top 5 team in 2018/2019. only last season was a big let down to me.

leafs tanked and within a few years, they have a legit championship core . dont get why ppl on here so agaisnt the tank man, it can work and its a better alternative then being a solid but nothing special team.

100% and trying to add those depth pieces who give you some leadership/grit/etc. is so much easier to do than acquiring a star.

It's all about championship contention and the Leafs are in that conversation every year now and since they have their stars locked up it won't change for quite awhile too.

"Tanking doesn't guarantee a championship" is such a bogus argument. There is nothing guaranteed, you just want to be a legit contender.

[Inevitable]

Nice graphic I saw on reddit, really makes the future look scary if Masai doesn't make some moves to take us out of no mans land.

[Red_Claw]

The resemblance between "TWO" and Trump supporters is uncanny.

Both convince themselves that being a loser is justified. Its been and is fascinating to watch to say the least.

[Geddy]

TWO wants to lose now and get a good return

Non-tankies want to lose in the first round of the playoffs and run it back the next season with the same lineup for the same results.

[720]

The resemblance between "TWO" and Trump supporters is uncanny.

Both convince themselves that being a loser is justified. Its been and is fascinating to watch to say the least.

Team Mediocre with the personal insults again. How predictable.

[Inevitable]

Hilarious how Team Treadmill comes in this thread heated and trigger themselves

[Steelo Green]

Irony.

[Pooh_Jeter]

Imagine getting so heated over a disagreement over the direction of the team you basically call the other side Nazis.

It's even more hilarious when you look at the dichotomy between the two groups. I know for a fact that the TWO is full of people of all ethnicities, sexual orientations, and socio economic backgrounds.

[Jeremy Lin 7]

The resemblance between "TWO" and Trump supporters is uncanny.

Both convince themselves that being a loser is justified. Its been and is fascinating to watch to say the least.

Name me the last team to win a Championship without a SUPERSTAR. This is the perfect season to tank and increase our odds of getting one through the draft.

Do you honestly believe this team can make it out the east this year? It's been proven that Pascal Siakam cannot be trusted as a number 1 option moving forward.

[Darkseid]

I believe in Masai.

Whatever he wants to do I'll support it.

[Darkseid]

The resemblance between "TWO" and Trump supporters is uncanny.

Both convince themselves that being a loser is justified. Its been and is fascinating to watch to say the least.

Name me the last team to win a Championship without a SUPERSTAR. This is the perfect season to tank and increase our odds of getting one through the draft.

Do you honestly believe this team can make it out the east this year? It's been proven that Pascal Siakam cannot be trusted as a number 1 option moving forward.

And how did the draft strategy work out before we traded for Kawhi?

Oh right, drafting a superstar is extremely difficult and more luck based than anything.

[Red_Claw]

The resemblance between "TWO" and Trump supporters is uncanny.

Both convince themselves that being a loser is justified. Its been and is fascinating to watch to say the least.

Name me the last team to win a Championship without a SUPERSTAR. This is the perfect season to tank and increase our odds of getting one through the draft.

Do you honestly believe this team can make it out the east this year? It's been proven that Pascal Siakam cannot be trusted as a number 1 option moving forward.

I agree that we need a superstar but committing to losing doesn't bring superstars here nor does it develop them. Being a winning team for the last however many seasons has turned our prospects into high quality players and if we continue this route and continue to develop the winning mentality and atmosphere, we'll have the assets to make the move that puts us in position for another championship.

Intentionally trying to lose will develop losers and decrease work ethic. It makes perfect sense why "two" ignores that fact because all they believe in is talent and that talent will solve all. But talent is only A factor, not the defining one and there are a TON of player examples of this. And besides that, there's ZERO guarantee that a top 5 pick will be better than the bottom 20 of the first round.

Patience and commitment is key and its the way Masai has always functioned. I stand with Masai.