Is Bubble Murray the biggest fluke in Nba history?

jfs1000d · Post #101 » by **jfs1000d** » Thu Jan 21, 2021 4:13 pm

No. The Heat to the finals.

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TheBonzaiEffect · Post #102 » by **TheBonzaiEffect** » Thu Jan 21, 2021 4:36 pm

MindState wrote:
Ryoga Hibiki wrote:
MindState wrote:Lots of flukes happened in the summer league last season. Murray going nuts, TJ Warren turning into a superstar, Heat getting to the finals as a one-man team, Bucks flaming out, multiple 3-1 leads blown, Lakers winning the chip, etc.

I expect more of the same this year until this pandemic ends.
the Heat were very far from being a one man team, quite the opposite

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Heat are the very definition of a "one man team"

Jimmy Butler (the star) surrounded by role players (everyone else), albiet very good ones. This type of team does not make the finals in any other season. It was like LeBron carrying that Cavs team to the finals in 2007 that had no business being there.

I think Bam qualifies as more than a role player.

Sports Realist · Post #103 » by **Sports Realist** » Thu Jan 21, 2021 4:49 pm

MindState wrote:Lots of flukes happened in the summer league last season. Murray going nuts, TJ Warren turning into a superstar, Heat getting to the finals as a one-man team, Bucks flaming out, multiple 3-1 leads blown, Lakers winning the chip, etc.

I expect more of the same this year until this pandemic ends.

The only way this post should have 26 upvotes is if its full of sarcasm, which I might be failing to pick up since I wasnt here a while.

If its not sarcastic, its a horrible post.

Post #104 » by **Duffman100** » Thu Jan 21, 2021 4:51 pm

Myth wrote:Jeremy Lin comes to mind.

^^^ this. Linsanity was one of the weirdest hot streaks I've ever witnessed.

Myth · Post #105 » by **Myth** » Thu Jan 21, 2021 5:09 pm

Duffman100 wrote:
Myth wrote:Jeremy Lin comes to mind.

^^^ this. Linsanity was one of the weirdest hot streaks I've ever witnessed.

Just to show how insane the reaction was to Jeremy Lin at the time, I remember taking a flight and in one of those in-flight magazines that you can place merchandise orders through, there was an autographed Magic Johnson basketball and an autographed Jeremy Lin basketball for sale, and the Jeremy Lin basketball was more expensive.

junot111 · Post #106 » by **junot111** » Sun Jan 24, 2021 4:05 am

Johnny Bball wrote:
junot111 wrote:
JohnWny Bball wrote:If the guy sucked in the playoffs most casuals here would have called him a choker.

So the guy balls when the pressure is on. Does he get called clutch? Nope...he’s a fluke.

Some people just gotta set everything on fire.

He balled out when there were no fans in the crowd and they were staying inside a campus environment where basketball was the only thing happening. It was impressive but definitely not like normal "playoff pressure". All I'm saying is he needs to show it in a normal environment.

Yeah like this year, totally different, normal Enviromental with fans . Your comment isn’t relevant unless there’s no pandemic.

Lol okay because a global pandemic happens every year? So he can play in front of empty crowds for the rest of this season, then what?

GSP · Post #107 » by **GSP** » Sat Jan 30, 2021 3:49 am

He might not even be the best Murray anymore

scores 4 garbage time points in the last minute when the game was over or hed be below 19 PPG for the season

but was invisible all 4th while Jokic put up 35/10/5

Ppl dont talk enough about how horrible his defense is. Dejounte, Demar and Keldon looked like Run Tmc against him

monopoman · Post #108 » by **monopoman** » Sat Jan 30, 2021 5:32 am

oaktownwarriors87 wrote:Utah had no perimeter defense

Denver had no interior defense

Murray and Mitchell feasted

Holy crap, a logical explanation does exist beyond he went nuclear for some reason.

Myth wrote:
Duffman100 wrote:
Myth wrote:Jeremy Lin comes to mind.

^^^ this. Linsanity was one of the weirdest hot streaks I've ever witnessed.

Just to show how insane the reaction was to Jeremy Lin at the time, I remember taking a flight and in one of those in-flight magazines that you can place merchandise orders through, there was an autographed Magic Johnson basketball and an autographed Jeremy Lin basketball for sale, and the Jeremy Lin basketball was more expensive.

Oh man, if anyone bought that Lin basketball I bet they have major buyers remorse. If Lin missed out on the days when his signature was worth a ton he lost quite a bit of money.

johanliebert · Post #109 » by **johanliebert** » Sat Jan 30, 2021 7:43 am

MindState wrote:
Ryoga Hibiki wrote:
MindState wrote:Lots of flukes happened in the summer league last season. Murray going nuts, TJ Warren turning into a superstar, Heat getting to the finals as a one-man team, Bucks flaming out, multiple 3-1 leads blown, Lakers winning the chip, etc.

I expect more of the same this year until this pandemic ends.
the Heat were very far from being a one man team, quite the opposite

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Heat are the very definition of a "one man team"

Jimmy Butler (the star) surrounded by role players (everyone else), albiet very good ones. This type of team does not make the finals in any other season. It was like LeBron carrying that Cavs team to the finals in 2007 that had no business being there.

Dragic played just as well as jimmy. Like he said they were far from a one man team as bam/herro/Duncan all had big games.

MrBigShot · Post #110 » by **MrBigShot** » Sat Jan 30, 2021 8:26 am

Heat are the literal opposite of a one man team.

Anyway, I don't see bubble Murray as a fluke per-say. I think bringing it during the most important games on the biggest stage is different than doing it night in and night out over a grueling regular season. Granted, the best players are able to do both. Murray's playing ~5 less mpg and taking about 3 or 4 less shots a game than in the post season. Let's see how he fares in this year's playoffs then decide if it was a fluke.

Also side note since it's getting discussed in the thread: Jokic isn't as great a playmaker as the best passers ever because he's a lot more limited physically, but in terms of raw ability to see & make a variety of different passes right on the money he's up there with pretty much anyone.

therealbig3 · Post #111 » by **therealbig3** » Sat Jan 30, 2021 8:39 am

Murray is putting up pretty much the same numbers he's always had, and Denver is tied for 4th. I don't think he's doing bad at all...he just hasn't taken that leap into All-Star status that people thought he would based on the bubble. But he's got two PS runs now where he stepped up big time relative to his RS self.

And I think that's going to be the player he generally is. A very solid RS player that's just short of being an All-Star, who steps it up in the PS and is better than some of the All-Stars selected before him (like Kemba, Siakam, Simmons, etc). Which is fine, he's going to play well enough to get Denver a top 4 seed and then save his best basketball for the PS.

Sark · Post #112 » by **Sark** » Sat Jan 30, 2021 8:41 am

The entire Bubble was a fluke. 5 months off, then pick up games for the chip in a neutral site. That scenario will probably never happen again in our lifetimes.

Richard Miller · Post #113 » by **Richard Miller** » Sat Jan 30, 2021 8:55 am

Asked Jamal Murray how he was feeling. He laughed.

"Man, how am I feeling? My elbow bruised. I got a sprain left shoulder. I hit my glute. I got a big bruise on my glute. It hurts to lift my leg and run. But it's fine. It's cool. I'm always good, man."

BelgradeNugget · Post #114 » by **BelgradeNugget** » Sat Jan 30, 2021 1:00 pm

Richard Miller wrote:
Asked Jamal Murray how he was feeling. He laughed.

"Man, how am I feeling? My elbow bruised. I got a sprain left shoulder. I hit my glute. I got a big bruise on my glute. It hurts to lift my leg and run. But it's fine. It's cool. I'm always good, man."

Malone should rest him right now. We are 11-8, 5th in the west, the season is long, time to sit.

spanishninja · Post #115 » by **spanishninja** » Sat Jan 30, 2021 5:55 pm

One thing I think we can all agree on: Murray is still definitely the most punchable face in the league.

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The_Hater · Post #116 » by **The_Hater** » Sat Jan 30, 2021 6:11 pm

Biggest fluke in history? No. But it definitely looks primarily like a hot streak at this point. He’s still a very good player and the whole story on his career isn’t written yet.

mademan · Post #117 » by **mademan** » Sat Jan 30, 2021 6:15 pm

Richard Miller wrote:
Asked Jamal Murray how he was feeling. He laughed.

"Man, how am I feeling? My elbow bruised. I got a sprain left shoulder. I hit my glute. I got a big bruise on my glute. It hurts to lift my leg and run. But it's fine. It's cool. I'm always good, man."

..all of which has him playing the same way he has the last 3 years sans bubble? Think the rational explanation is that this is just who he is (or about, he's playing a little worse than normal, but within range)

MavfanAus · Post #118 » by **MavfanAus** » Sat Feb 20, 2021 4:53 am

GSP wrote:Man was averaging Steph Curry numbers in playoffs. Had b2b 50pt games and now through 13 games the next season he isnt even averaging 20 PPG and shooting .55ts

Guess today's game was a fluke too.

GSP · Post #119 » by **GSP** » Sat Feb 20, 2021 4:54 am

MavfanAus wrote:
GSP wrote:Man was averaging Steph Curry numbers in playoffs. Had b2b 50pt games and now through 13 games the next season he isnt even averaging 20 PPG and shooting .55ts

Guess today's game was a fluke too.

Actually was. 1st time in Nba history a 50 piece with 0 Fts

nice bump after 27 games of mediocrity tho dummy :lol:

MavfanAus · Post #120 » by **MavfanAus** » Tue Mar 2, 2021 6:09 am

GSP wrote:
MavfanAus wrote:
GSP wrote:Man was averaging Steph Curry numbers in playoffs. Had b2b 50pt games and now through 13 games the next season he isnt even averaging 20 PPG and shooting .55ts

Guess today's game was a fluke too.

Actually was. 1st time in Nba history a 50 piece with 0 Fts

nice bump after 27 games of mediocrity tho dummy

Last month, averaging 26/5/5 on 51% FG and 88% FT. I guess he fluked it in the bubble and he's back to flukey Murray an entire month right?

This is what happens when you set up hot take threads after a quarter of a season. You end up looking like a complete, well, "dummy". /insert laughing emoji here/