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[Finn]

I still think the German kid on the Wizards, Wagner, has some potential left. Wouldn't mind picking him up on the cheap and let him develop under BroLo.

mo Wagner is a dick. and not a good defender in spite of being a thug. We could use another 4/5, but he doesn't seem to be worthwhile to acquire. I don't know if he's just missed games because of covid or something else.

I mean, for free, sure. If Bud wants an alternative to Wilson, trade him for Wagner, if the Wizards accept.

Curious, based on what?

[skones]

I still think the German kid on the Wizards, Wagner, has some potential left. Wouldn't mind picking him up on the cheap and let him develop under BroLo.

mo Wagner is a dick. and not a good defender in spite of being a thug. We could use another 4/5, but he doesn't seem to be worthwhile to acquire. I don't know if he's just missed games because of covid or something else.

I mean, for free, sure. If Bud wants an alternative to Wilson, trade him for Wagner, if the Wizards accept.

Curious, based on what?

It's just a fluke, his on/off was good a few games ago, and it will be again in a few games.

Oh you mean kind of like if you look at Bryn Forbes first handful of games and then the last handful of games you could maybe derive that the few games in the middle that tanked him might not define his entire worth to the team yeah I could see that.

If you look at the larger sample, his career, then no, it would be hard to see him being anything other than a huge net negative.

Portis has never been on a team with any understanding of player development, he's still becoming the player he'll be.

My guess is him getting into it with Giannis last year.

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[Ruzious]

I still think the German kid on the Wizards, Wagner, has some potential left. Wouldn't mind picking him up on the cheap and let him develop under BroLo.

mo Wagner is a dick. and not a good defender in spite of being a thug. We could use another 4/5, but he doesn't seem to be worthwhile to acquire. I don't know if he's just missed games because of covid or something else.

I mean, for free, sure. If Bud wants an alternative to Wilson, trade him for Wagner, if the Wizards accept.

Curious, based on what?

I think Wagner is disliked around the league because he goes so far out of his way to draw charges. At first, ya say - Good hustle, kid. But at some point, it gets annoying.

[Finn]

So nothing terribly appalling.

[DrWood]

I still think the German kid on the Wizards, Wagner, has some potential left. Wouldn't mind picking him up on the cheap and let him develop under BroLo.

mo Wagner is a dick. and not a good defender in spite of being a thug. We could use another 4/5, but he doesn't seem to be worthwhile to acquire. I don't know if he's just missed games because of covid or something else.

I mean, for free, sure. If Bud wants an alternative to Wilson, trade him for Wagner, if the Wizards accept.

Curious, based on what?

observation of cheap shots, mainly.

[yannisk]

when is the earliest we can trade Giannis?

[Matches Malone]

Wrong thread.

[Jimmmycrackcorn]

Can someone direct me to a site that tracks offensive fouls....as opposed to just personal fouls? I'm having a hard time finding it on NBA.com/stats or basketballreference.com

[emunney]

Can someone direct me to a site that tracks offensive fouls....as opposed to just personal fouls? I'm having a hard time finding it on NBA.com/stats or basketballreference.com

I'm sure it's somewhere on the NBA site but on b-r check under the Play by Play heading under Fouls Committed.

[Jimmmycrackcorn]

Can someone direct me to a site that tracks offensive fouls....as opposed to just personal fouls? I'm having a hard time finding it on NBA.com/stats or basketballreference.com

I'm sure it's somewhere on the NBA site but on b-r check under the Play by Play heading under Fouls Committed.

Thank you. As I assumed....Giannis leads the league in offensive fouls committed.

[Jimmmycrackcorn]

And he also lead the league last year.....14 more than the next closest guy.

[crowhead76]

Then trade DJA and a 2nd for Garrett Temple

Sign Len

Holiday - Temple - Merrill - Adams (2W)
Dort - Dante - Pat - Forbes
Middleton - Craig - Nwora
Giannis - Bjelica - Thanasis - Diakite (2W)
Portis - Holmes - Len

[ABucksFan]

Then trade DJA and a 2nd for Garrett Temple

Sign Len

Holiday - Temple - Merrill - Adams (2W)
Dort - Dante - Pat - Forbes
Middleton - Craig - Nwora
Giannis - Bjelica - Thanasis - Diakite (2W)
Portis - Holmes - Len

2 first round picks for 1-yr rentals....No. Hard pass. Also, Holmes would start over Portis.

[crowhead76]

Then trade DJA and a 2nd for Garrett Temple

Sign Len

Holiday - Temple - Merrill - Adams (2W)
Dort - Dante - Pat - Forbes
Middleton - Craig - Nwora
Giannis - Bjelica - Thanasis - Diakite (2W)
Portis - Holmes - Len

2 first round picks for 1-yr rentals....No. Hard pass. Also, Holmes would start over Portis.

It is 1 1st round pick, the Bucks would swap with Houston so that they can send a 1st out for Dort who still has 3 years left at 1.5mil, 1.7mil, and 1.9mil. Dort and Holiday backcourt defense would be crazy good, and Dort provides size and strength to defend against the like of Lebron and Harden as well.

I had Portis starting only because he spaces the floor better but I think the center rotation would be determined by matchup. I also think Len would do well in Brooks role in the drop scheme provided he can hit from outside like he did in Atlanta.

This trade and the DJA trade also gets the Bucks off of about 19mil in salary next year on declining players.

Holiday
Dort
Middleton
Giannis
Holmes

That would be a scary switchable defensive team with 2 incredible on ball defenders on the perimeter.

[ABucksFan]

Then trade DJA and a 2nd for Garrett Temple

Sign Len

Holiday - Temple - Merrill - Adams (2W)
Dort - Dante - Pat - Forbes
Middleton - Craig - Nwora
Giannis - Bjelica - Thanasis - Diakite (2W)
Portis - Holmes - Len

2 first round picks for 1-yr rentals....No. Hard pass. Also, Holmes would start over Portis.

It is 1 1st round pick, the Bucks would swap with Houston so that they can send a 1st out for Dort who still has 3 years left at 1.5mil, 1.7mil, and 1.9mil. Dort and Holiday backcourt defense would be crazy good, and Dort provides size and strength to defend against the like of Lebron and Harden as well.

I had Portis starting only because he spaces the floor better but I think the center rotation would be determined by matchup. I also think Len would do well in Brooks role in the drop scheme provided he can hit from outside like he did in Atlanta.

This trade and the DJA trade also gets the Bucks off of about 19mil in salary next year on declining players.

Holiday
Dort
Middleton
Giannis
Holmes

That would be a scary switchable defensive team with 2 incredible on ball defenders on the perimeter.

This deal just makes 0 sense for the Kings. Thunder make out look bandits. Bagley has much more value.

[M-C-G]

Can someone direct me to a site that tracks offensive fouls....as opposed to just personal fouls? I'm having a hard time finding it on NBA.com/stats or basketballreference.com

I'm sure it's somewhere on the NBA site but on b-r check under the Play by Play heading under Fouls Committed.

Thank you. As I assumed....Giannis leads the league in offensive fouls committed.

Not surprising for two main reasons;
1. teams are using that wall to wait for him to drive and literally throwing players trying to draw charges underneath him. Saw it last night with Caruso, Harrell, etc. It is literally part of the game plan against Giannis and let's be honest, it is effective until we do something to counter. Would be fantastic to see at least one back door cut while he drives, but I feel like I have been waiting three years and not sure we have done it once. No one works baseline so they stay out of his way and that is the obvious counter to the way teams are defending him, but what do I know?

2. The complete lack of respect from officials on these blocks is maddening. There is no way LeBron gets called for charges on 50% of these drives. I can speculate why, but the end of the day, NBA officiating is so biased, and as of now, Giannis still isn't in the 'club'...because the straight number of questionable calls that go against him is staggering.

[slos]

Brook + fillers + 2021/2023 FRPs for Dipo + 2022 FRP. Do it Horst. We need more power to compete with the superteams. Dipo is not an ideal fit, but he is the best you get with limited assets. Get him.

[tski1972]

Anyone willing to take a flyer on Andre Roberson?

[SirChurros]

I'm sure it's somewhere on the NBA site but on b-r check under the Play by Play heading under Fouls Committed.

Thank you. As I assumed....Giannis leads the league in offensive fouls committed.

Not surprising for two main reasons;
1. teams are using that wall to wait for him to drive and literally throwing players trying to draw charges underneath him. Saw it last night with Caruso, Harrell, etc. It is literally part of the game plan against Giannis and let's be honest, it is effective until we do something to counter. Would be fantastic to see at least one back door cut while he drives, but I feel like I have been waiting three years and not sure we have done it once. No one works baseline so they stay out of his way and that is the obvious counter to the way teams are defending him, but what do I know?

2. The complete lack of respect from officials on these blocks is maddening. There is no way LeBron gets called for charges on 50% of these drives. I can speculate why, but the end of the day, NBA officiating is so biased, and as of now, Giannis still isn't in the 'club'...because the straight number of questionable calls that go against him is staggering.

Lebron doesn't get called for them because Lebron doesn't force things and just go bowling into guys.

[M-C-G]

Thank you. As I assumed....Giannis leads the league in offensive fouls committed.

Not surprising for two main reasons;
1. teams are using that wall to wait for him to drive and literally throwing players trying to draw charges underneath him. Saw it last night with Caruso, Harrell, etc. It is literally part of the game plan against Giannis and let's be honest, it is effective until we do something to counter. Would be fantastic to see at least one back door cut while he drives, but I feel like I have been waiting three years and not sure we have done it once. No one works baseline so they stay out of his way and that is the obvious counter to the way teams are defending him, but what do I know?

2. The complete lack of respect from officials on these blocks is maddening. There is no way LeBron gets called for charges on 50% of these drives. I can speculate why, but the end of the day, NBA officiating is so biased, and as of now, Giannis still isn't in the 'club'...because the straight number of questionable calls that go against him is staggering.

Lebron doesn't get called for them because Lebron doesn't force things and just go bowling into guys.

LeBron used his forearm as a battering ram about 15 times and guess what, not one offensive foul.