Official Liverpool FC Thread

[NyCeEvO]

Guys, we're still the Champs! R-E-L-A-X

It’s amazing that we’re at the top of the table considering all of the injuries we’ve suffered. If you would’ve told me before the season that we’d have this many injuries and be at the top of the league at this point, I’d take it 100 times out of 100.

But that still doesn’t mean we shouldn’t be annoyed at lost opportunities.

We lost the title by 1 point two seasons ago because, despite having only 1 loss the entire season to City’s 4, we had 7 draws while they only had 2. After today’s result, we’ve got 5 draws on the season already. (We only had 3 all of last season.)

A win against a relegation zone team is worth just as much as a win against fellow title contenders, so I think we should be disappointed especially considering it was 1) at Anfield and 2) with fans in attendance (which may not be the case for long considering the new strain outbreak and the resulting lockdowns).

I truly hope it won’t matter in the end, but I have flashbacks to the 2018-19 season. Points are precious. We should’ve had a full 3 today and padded our lead, so that there is more of a cushion to drop points later on.

[aggerrard]

Atleast we created chances today, but somehow managed not to score. We are not, by any means, looking like a championship side right now.

[aggerrard]

Once again. We are **** terrible at the moment. Pathetic showing.

[aggerrard]

Hahaha. We are drawing with Villa's u12 team after 42 minutes. Jesus christ we are on a downhill slope right now with no end in sight. Again today vs amateurs we are creating very few chances.

[aggerrard]

No surprise we scored some goals in the 2nd half, but dammit we are far from were we should be. Last 3 PrL games and today we haven't looked like a top-8 side. Hopefully we can find some form before United, otherwise it will be a tough outcome.

[NyCeEvO]

I've been too frustrated to post here over the last few weeks. And what's really annoyed me was Klopp's refusal to acknowledge our poor play until we were actually no longer at the top of the table. For too long, the 7-0 win against Crystal Palace has been used as evidence that we're fine and that only a few tweaks are needed to get back to that level; in truth, the CP victory was exception to our relatively average standard of play.

Our play into the final third has been quite poor. Our opponents are playing conservative defensively by being compact and making sure to form their lines in the box as soon as possible when we're approaching the final third. We've been playing right into their hands by bombing crosses into a crowded, strongly defended box despite having only a few of our guys actually in the box. It's like we're just hoping that we'll get a fortuitous deflection and the ball will bounce right at the foot of Salah or Firmino for an easy goal attempt.

Jota was so good for us because in addition to his overall good pace, he was constantly running between the lines before the defense had an opportunity to set themselves up. His play warped defenses and helped the rest of the front 3 to get more 1v1 chances. Without him, Salah just tries to dribble around defenders or into the box, usually to no avail, and Bobby has just been poor all around. Thiago helps create better advances from the midfield into the final third, but without good movement from Salah or Firmino, it renders Thiago's passes ineffective. Shaq is also great at linking passes to our front 3, but if our guys aren't moving, it won't lead to much.

I'm disappointed that Klopp hasn't really made adjustments or tried bringing in Minamino for Firmino to see if he would be better replacement for Jota's movement than Bobby. (Gini has been pretty frustrating to watch as well.)

In the Southampton match, I could tell that weren't going to score from the 60th minute onward (unless from a set piece or a fluke play/deflection), because our guys were tired. They weren't pressuring or threatening Southampton at all. Klopp didn't make any subs and we whimpered into that defeat without fighting at the end.

I expect us to continue to struggle for goals as long as Klopp refuses to adjust and Firmino and Salah continue in their current form. I'm so disappointed.

EDIT: And even though I only officially posted this late in the 2nd half of the match, I typed most of it out during half-time because I knew our form wouldn't change much in the 2nd half. The fact that you can clearly tell that nothing inspiring will happen over the next 30-45min of play is very alarming. If Klopp is reluctant to make more changes, he'll be just as guilty as the players in not managing well.

[aggerrard]

Another disappointing performance.

Firmino with another bad performance. Four (!) very good chances in the first half, Firmino managed to ruin them all. That's unacceptable, can't defend him when he plays like this. He had 3-4 good games in a row, but other than that he hasn't played well whatsoever in the entirety of 2020 and so far he is even worse in 2021.

And what are we doing? How hard can it be to sign a f***ing centerback? We are playing 2 of our 3 best midfielders as centerbacks and it limits our game tremendously. 17 days in the window and Klopp are acting like it's all good - oopen your eyes Klopp, we are **** right now. Salah and Mane aren't playing well either, and Trent are struggling big time - even Robbo struggles to make a decent cross.

It seems like we can play forever without scoring and it's frustrating to watch. All talk of another title should be long gone after these last 4 league games.

[NyCeEvO]

Guys, we're still the Champs! R-E-L-A-X

Ahem...and you were saying?

[Cactus Jack]

Guys, we're still the Champs! R-E-L-A-X

Ahem...and you were saying?

I've been kind of out of the loop lately. But winning the league last year, I'm pretty content with the status quo. Coming into this season, I was somewhat expecting a drop off from past performance. If they win the league again, great. If not, it's not the end of the world. I'm good.

[danfantastk32]

Guys, we're still the Champs! R-E-L-A-X

Ahem...and you were saying?

I've been kind of out of the loop lately. But winning the league last year, I'm pretty content with the status quo. Coming into this season, I was somewhat expecting a drop off from past performance. If they win the league again, great. If not, it's not the end of the world. I'm good.

Don't know how to feel entirely. On one hand, I have waited over 20 years to hoist the Prem. I will not call for huge changes no matter what happens. We finally won it last year......so if things are a little crappy, I'll deal with it. Let's not forget what we have been completely ravaged by injury this year. Especially to our D.

On the other hand....Jesus, we are total Sh** this year! I mean come on! They took the term "resting on their laurels" and took it to a new level. Where were the good signings????? We won the CL and the Prem, and got almost nothing to show for it. Go take a fuc$$ ing page from Barca or R-Madrid for Christ sake! Grab a good signing or two, and bolster the squad!!

Frustrated as hell. But after 20-ish years as a fan......I want to just enjoy that it finally happened. So I am gonna prob stay silent for the most part. Except to say that I am extremely disappointed with Liverpool management that we really got nobody after such a good run over the last 2 years. Where are the stars flocking to us? Way to sell the future, you limp-dicks

[HIF]

It's amazing how Jekyll and Hyde you've become. honestly you were a class above us when you played us and the only team to hand us our butts on a plate but then I've seen you play insipid football against some poor teams.

[aggerrard]

6½ hours in the Prem without a goal. This crisis is severe - worst period since Hodgson.

Some blame haave to be on Klopp. Played Jota 90 minutes vs Midtjylland when we already had secured 1st, got injured and out for 2 month - that decision from Klopp is inexplicable. Haven't signed a new CB despite us not having any CBs available for most of the season. If the money aren't there because of COVID - then atleast get someone in on loan.

Turned from heaven to hell in the span of a few weeks. If this continues for a few more games we risk getting several points behind top-4. Honestly a bit embarrassing.

[aggerrard]

No **** surprise. Pathetic penalty, but whatever at this point. We are close to selling this season completely - doesn't look like a team who are gonna play in Europe next season. The owners wasn't willing to spend money and renew the squad, now we're paying the price.

[HIF]

I'm sure you'll turn it around but the Manchester teams will have more confidence after last night.

[aggerrard]

Guys, we're still the Champs! R-E-L-A-X

Ahem...and you were saying?

I've been kind of out of the loop lately. But winning the league last year, I'm pretty content with the status quo. Coming into this season, I was somewhat expecting a drop off from past performance. If they win the league again, great. If not, it's not the end of the world. I'm good.

I agree. If we don't win the league again, that's fine.

But top-4 should be the absolute minimum, no matter if we won the league or not. If we lose out on the top-4 with the team and manager we have, i would consider it one of the low-points in my time as a Liverpool fan - comparing performance to the squad quality.

Five of the next six games are; Spurs away, West Ham away, Man City home, Leicester away and Everton home. We have put ourself in a very critical position. Can't be good or fine with the position we're in right now.

[HIF]

Ahem...and you were saying?

I've been kind of out of the loop lately. But winning the league last year, I'm pretty content with the status quo. Coming into this season, I was somewhat expecting a drop off from past performance. If they win the league again, great. If not, it's not the end of the world. I'm good.

I agree. If we don't win the league again, that's fine.

But top-4 should be the absolute minimum, no matter if we won the league or not. If we lose out on the top-4 with the team and manager we have, i would consider it one of the low-points in my time as a Liverpool fan - comparing performance to the squad quality.

Five of the next six games are; Spurs away, West Ham away, Man City home, Leicester away and Everton home. We have put ourself in a very critical position. Can't be good or fine with the position we're in right now.

Those games will make or break your season. Completely crazy how you haven't been scoring recently. You should be at the top of the league and like you say anything outside top 3 is a fail for your team.

[aggerrard]

I've been kind of out of the loop lately. But winning the league last year, I'm pretty content with the status quo. Coming into this season, I was somewhat expecting a drop off from past performance. If they win the league again, great. If not, it's not the end of the world. I'm good.

I agree. If we don't win the league again, that's fine.

But top-4 should be the absolute minimum, no matter if we won the league or not. If we lose out on the top-4 with the team and manager we have, i would consider it one of the low-points in my time as a Liverpool fan - comparing performance to the squad quality.

Five of the next six games are; Spurs away, West Ham away, Man City home, Leicester away and Everton home. We have put ourself in a very critical position. Can't be good or fine with the position we're in right now.

Those games will make or break your season. Completely crazy how you haven't been scoring recently. You should be at the top of the league and like you say anything outside top 3 is a fail for your team.

Crushed Palace 7-0 and looked like the strongest side in the league. Followed it up with 3 points in the last 5 games with one goal scored - the opponents being West Brom home, Newcastle away, Southampton away, United home and Burnley home. Hard to explain.

You're right. These next six games are crucial (Brighton at home being the 6th game) - i'd say 12 points is required with the position we've put ourself in.

[HIF]

I agree. If we don't win the league again, that's fine.

But top-4 should be the absolute minimum, no matter if we won the league or not. If we lose out on the top-4 with the team and manager we have, i would consider it one of the low-points in my time as a Liverpool fan - comparing performance to the squad quality.

Five of the next six games are; Spurs away, West Ham away, Man City home, Leicester away and Everton home. We have put ourself in a very critical position. Can't be good or fine with the position we're in right now.

Those games will make or break your season. Completely crazy how you haven't been scoring recently. You should be at the top of the league and like you say anything outside top 3 is a fail for your team.

Crushed Palace 7-0 and looked like the strongest side in the league. Followed it up with 3 points in the last 5 games with one goal scored - the opponents being West Brom home, Newcastle away, Southampton away, United home and Burnley home. Hard to explain.

You're right. These next six games are crucial (Brighton at home being the 6th game) - i'd say 12 points is required with the position we've put ourself in.

I don't think 12 points is enough if you want to win the title. Man City are 7 points ahead of you having played the same number of games, United 6. 12 points keeps you in the fight for 4th and a CL place though, which honestly is the basic minimum for this season.

[aggerrard]

Those games will make or break your season. Completely crazy how you haven't been scoring recently. You should be at the top of the league and like you say anything outside top 3 is a fail for your team.

Crushed Palace 7-0 and looked like the strongest side in the league. Followed it up with 3 points in the last 5 games with one goal scored - the opponents being West Brom home, Newcastle away, Southampton away, United home and Burnley home. Hard to explain.

You're right. These next six games are crucial (Brighton at home being the 6th game) - i'd say 12 points is required with the position we've put ourself in.

I don't think 12 points is enough if you want to win the title. Man City are 7 points ahead of you having played the same number of games, United 6. 12 points keeps you in the fight for 4th and a CL place though, which honestly is the basic minimum for this season.

I've given up on the title already. The 12 points is just to get in top-4 or atleast stay in distance of it.

[aggerrard]

Fabinho injured - and we're playing our 15th(!!!!!!!) centerback pairing this season.

WAKE UP AND BUY A **** DEFENDER