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[M-C-G]

Anyone willing to take a flyer on Andre Roberson?

Would like to see Craig play first

[SirChurros]

Not surprising for two main reasons;
1. teams are using that wall to wait for him to drive and literally throwing players trying to draw charges underneath him. Saw it last night with Caruso, Harrell, etc. It is literally part of the game plan against Giannis and let's be honest, it is effective until we do something to counter. Would be fantastic to see at least one back door cut while he drives, but I feel like I have been waiting three years and not sure we have done it once. No one works baseline so they stay out of his way and that is the obvious counter to the way teams are defending him, but what do I know?

2. The complete lack of respect from officials on these blocks is maddening. There is no way LeBron gets called for charges on 50% of these drives. I can speculate why, but the end of the day, NBA officiating is so biased, and as of now, Giannis still isn't in the 'club'...because the straight number of questionable calls that go against him is staggering.

Lebron doesn't get called for them because Lebron doesn't force things and just go bowling into guys.

LeBron used his forearm as a battering ram about 15 times and guess what, not one offensive foul.

Getting away with a forearm is much easier to do than getting away with charges you don't even try avoiding.

The only one who is causing Giannis to lead the league in offensive fouls are Giannis and, to some extent, Bud for playing him out of position.

When a defense sets itself up to block off your path to the hoop and your solution is to try to plow through it and hope for a block, you're going to commit a lot of offensive fouls.

I can't even imagine watching the way Giannis plays offensively and thinking the officials are screwing us over.
It's insane.

And yes, that's separate from the fact that Giannis gets hacked a lot and doesn't always get the whistle.

[crkone]

Not surprising for two main reasons;
1. teams are using that wall to wait for him to drive and literally throwing players trying to draw charges underneath him. Saw it last night with Caruso, Harrell, etc. It is literally part of the game plan against Giannis and let's be honest, it is effective until we do something to counter. Would be fantastic to see at least one back door cut while he drives, but I feel like I have been waiting three years and not sure we have done it once. No one works baseline so they stay out of his way and that is the obvious counter to the way teams are defending him, but what do I know?

2. The complete lack of respect from officials on these blocks is maddening. There is no way LeBron gets called for charges on 50% of these drives. I can speculate why, but the end of the day, NBA officiating is so biased, and as of now, Giannis still isn't in the 'club'...because the straight number of questionable calls that go against him is staggering.

Lebron doesn't get called for them because Lebron doesn't force things and just go bowling into guys.

LeBron used his forearm as a battering ram about 15 times and guess what, not one offensive foul.

It would still be an offensive foul if we had a backdoor cut because Giannis would still slam into the defender. He needs to fake the drive and pull up in front of the defender. I mean it's so obvious he has a free play if he just pulls up in front of defenders trying to take the charge.

[M-C-G]

Lebron doesn't get called for them because Lebron doesn't force things and just go bowling into guys.

LeBron used his forearm as a battering ram about 15 times and guess what, not one offensive foul.

Getting away with a forearm is much easier to do than getting away with charges you don't even try avoiding.

The only one who is causing Giannis to lead the league in offensive fouls are Giannis and, to some extent, Bud for playing him out of position.

When a defense sets itself up to block off your path to the hoop and your solution is to try to plow through it and hope for a block, you're going to commit a lot of offensive fouls.

I can't even imagine watching the way Giannis plays offensively and thinking the officials are screwing us over.
It's insane.

And yes, that's separate from the fact that Giannis gets hacked a lot and doesn't always get the whistle.

Not sure you are missing my point, but let me clarify, Giannis does not get in the 'club' officiating. What the club is and how you get in, I have no idea, but he gets about the least positive calls of any MVP/star I can remember.

[M-C-G]

Lebron doesn't get called for them because Lebron doesn't force things and just go bowling into guys.

LeBron used his forearm as a battering ram about 15 times and guess what, not one offensive foul.

It would still be an offensive foul if we had a backdoor cut because Giannis would still slam into the defender. He needs to fake the drive and pull up in front of the defender. I mean it's so obvious he has a free play if he just pulls up in front of defenders trying to take the charge.

I really just want to see the old Jabari back door cut or have a plus athlete running an ally oop type play.Take two steps at the wall and lob it.

[SirChurros]

LeBron used his forearm as a battering ram about 15 times and guess what, not one offensive foul.

Getting away with a forearm is much easier to do than getting away with charges you don't even try avoiding.

The only one who is causing Giannis to lead the league in offensive fouls are Giannis and, to some extent, Bud for playing him out of position.

When a defense sets itself up to block off your path to the hoop and your solution is to try to plow through it and hope for a block, you're going to commit a lot of offensive fouls.

I can't even imagine watching the way Giannis plays offensively and thinking the officials are screwing us over.
It's insane.

And yes, that's separate from the fact that Giannis gets hacked a lot and doesn't always get the whistle.

Not sure you are missing my point, but let me clarify, Giannis does not get in the 'club' officiating. What the club is and how you get in, I have no idea, but he gets about the least positive calls of any MVP/star I can remember.

I agree he doesn't get "in the club" officiating, but I'm also not sure how you can expect him to get in the club officiating on charges that are usually charges.

It's a 50/50 call that's difficult to make. He makes it more difficult by not even trying to avoid contact.

[M-C-G]

Getting away with a forearm is much easier to do than getting away with charges you don't even try avoiding.

The only one who is causing Giannis to lead the league in offensive fouls are Giannis and, to some extent, Bud for playing him out of position.

When a defense sets itself up to block off your path to the hoop and your solution is to try to plow through it and hope for a block, you're going to commit a lot of offensive fouls.

I can't even imagine watching the way Giannis plays offensively and thinking the officials are screwing us over.
It's insane.

And yes, that's separate from the fact that Giannis gets hacked a lot and doesn't always get the whistle.

Not sure you are missing my point, but let me clarify, Giannis does not get in the 'club' officiating. What the club is and how you get in, I have no idea, but he gets about the least positive calls of any MVP/star I can remember.

I agree he doesn't get "in the club" officiating, but I'm also not sure how you can expect him to get in the club officiating on charges that are usually charges.

It's a 50/50 call that's difficult to make. He makes it more difficult by not even trying to avoid contact.

Yeah that's fine, he is a unique player that plays the game in a way we haven't seen much before. I think I am just tired of seeing guys dive underneath him, which teams like the Lakers and Celtics are doing and being rewarded for what isn't a charge.

Not denying he does more charging than most, but pulling a number out of my ass, seems like he gets 25% of the 50/50 calls and that is bull for a MVP player. It's unheard of for a MVP player.

[Jimmmycrackcorn]

I'm sure it's somewhere on the NBA site but on b-r check under the Play by Play heading under Fouls Committed.

Thank you. As I assumed....Giannis leads the league in offensive fouls committed.

Not surprising for two main reasons;
1. teams are using that wall to wait for him to drive and literally throwing players trying to draw charges underneath him. Saw it last night with Caruso, Harrell, etc. It is literally part of the game plan against Giannis and let's be honest, it is effective until we do something to counter. Would be fantastic to see at least one back door cut while he drives, but I feel like I have been waiting three years and not sure we have done it once. No one works baseline so they stay out of his way and that is the obvious counter to the way teams are defending him, but what do I know?

2. The complete lack of respect from officials on these blocks is maddening. There is no way LeBron gets called for charges on 50% of these drives. I can speculate why, but the end of the day, NBA officiating is so biased, and as of now, Giannis still isn't in the 'club'...because the straight number of questionable calls that go against him is staggering.

Point 1.....I thought this is what the "dunker spot" was supposed to allow for. Which is why I'm curious why we're not seeing it utilized.

Point 2...this is my biggest gripe with the league. The calls are heavily weighted against Giannis for some reason, and I cannot fathom why. It must be maddening.

[ANTETOKOUNBROS]

Kevin Porter would have been a nice high upside pickup at a position of need and where we lack talent since losing Brogdon.

[emunney]

Was just watching some old Jordan and Dr. J clips, and... did they have bigger hands than Giannis? If not, why isn't he able to manipulate the ball confidently with one hand the way they did? Are the balls different?

[emunney]

Like the way Jordan could show the ball and play keepaway.

Watch on YouTube

This is my thing for Giannis this year. I've given up on my pet floater of the past couple years. He needs better fakes. Pass fakes on drives. Drive fakes on passes. That fadeaway he shoots should be a shot fake if the defender commits. Nobody with hands like his should be as predictable as he can sometimes be.

[coolhandluke121]

Was just watching some old Jordan and Dr. J clips, and... did they have bigger hands than Giannis? If not, why isn't he able to manipulate the ball confidently with one hand the way they did? Are the balls different?

Nope, I think Giannis is right up there with Boban and Shaq for biggest hands in NBA history. It might be harder to control the ball away from your body with such long arms though. There's a theory that sending a nerve signal through nerves that are so long makes it harder for the signal to be relayed with the necessary accuracy after a certain point, and this may be why big men often have a lot more trouble hitting ft's. There are exceptions and other factors of course, but there's a pretty strong correlation and that's one of the more intriguing explanations I've heard. And of course Giannis isn't a threat to hit jumpers at an acceptable rate, which would mean a lot of the fakes MJ did would be pointless for Giannis.

ETA: Giannis is also plainly not as coordinated as MJ or Erving.

[soxperry]

This offense needs more actual shooters. Im so tired of watching other teams take advantage of open looks and making it look easy while we clank them again and again.

Giannis needs to stop shooting threes and Nwora needs to get Pat's minutes.

I know Nwora does almost nothing well aside from shooting but he should be given every chance to improve during the regular season. Who cares what seed we are. Its time to get serious.

[Prez]

This offense needs more actual shooters. Im so tired of watching other teams take advantage of open looks and making it look easy while we clank them again and again.

Giannis needs to stop shooting threes and Nwora needs to get Pat's minutes.

I know Nwora does almost nothing well aside from shooting but he should be given every chance to improve during the regular season. Who cares what seed we are. Its time to get serious.

They’re shooting 40% from 3 on the season, good for 4th best in the league, and also 4th in 3s made per game. We’re also 2nd in wide open 3s made per game, and shoot them at 42%. 3PT shooting is way down on the list of this team’s problems so far this season.

[pilprin]

Outside of Holliday...Midds...and Giannis...everyone should be available on the trade market. I do not like how the pieces fit on this team at all.

I like Brook, Portis, Forbes, DJ, and Dante individually, but collectively this team needs work. Maybe they will gel...but I just don't see it right now.

DJ Wilson is filler in any deal

[skones]

Outside of Holliday...Midds...and Giannis...everyone should be available on the trade market. I do not like how the pieces fit on this team at all.

I like Brook, Portis, Forbes, DJ, and Dante individually, but collectively this team needs work. Maybe they will gel...but I just don't see it right now.

DJ Wilson is filler in any deal

It doesn't matter if they're available. Donte is literally the only guy who's worth ANYTHING.

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[DavidDunn21]

Was just watching some old Jordan and Dr. J clips, and... did they have bigger hands than Giannis? If not, why isn't he able to manipulate the ball confidently with one hand the way they did? Are the balls different?

Yeah I've been thinking about this and wanna do either a pod or preferably a YouTube video comparing the shooting styles of great players with big hands. I am open to having my prejudices disproven, but it would seem that Giannis is (generally) being coached foolishly to have a "perfect" modern stroke where he needs a high spin line drive that stops at the target like Mike or Kawhi. I need to look at Julius' shot a little more, but my recollection having never watched him play live is the Doctor had more of a floater aspect to his jumper.

The answer to your question though: Jordan and Dr. J and Kawhi were highly skilled and coached BASKETBALL PLAYERS and Giannis is a guy whose nickname is The Freak and really just picked up the sport

[midranger]

Who might want brook?

[AussieBuck]

Who might want brook?

Would be nice to add all our salary junk for Otto Porter's expring. Shame we don't have assets.

[midranger]

Who might want brook?

Would be nice to add all our salary junk for Otto Porter's expring. Shame we don't have assets.

I was thinking like two mediocre pieces, one of which we keep and the other we swing with DJ to Sacto for bejelica