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Post#1381 » by Rastas » Thu Jan 21, 2021 5:09 pm

VDT wrote:The Nets need to move one of the big 3. Three high usage iso players on one team are too many. I still think a Simmons for Harden trade will probably benefit both teams right now.


Only trade the Nets would be interested in at this stage would be Kyrie for Ben.
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Post#1382 » by HardenToSixers » Thu Jan 21, 2021 5:22 pm

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he can make a deep stepback 3 over anyone outside of maybe Giannis perfectly timing it a block. he didn't really break him down in an impressive dribble and get to the rim once in the first half of the video I saw.

obviously not the best matchup over a long-stretch but I'm going to draw that many conclusions from Steph being Steph.

He couldn't even breakdown Kevin Love when it mattered after all so I'm gonna find it hard to believe that AD would be bbq chicken in a meaningful playoff setting.
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Post#1383 » by VDT » Thu Jan 21, 2021 5:33 pm

Rastas wrote:
VDT wrote:The Nets need to move one of the big 3. Three high usage iso players on one team are too many. I still think a Simmons for Harden trade will probably benefit both teams right now.


Only trade the Nets would be interested in at this stage would be Kyrie for Ben.


Probably you are right, but that's not a trade the Sixers should make. I dont really think any team is going to give up real value for Irving right now either.
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Post#1384 » by Rastas » Thu Jan 21, 2021 5:47 pm

VDT wrote:
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VDT wrote:The Nets need to move one of the big 3. Three high usage iso players on one team are too many. I still think a Simmons for Harden trade will probably benefit both teams right now.


Only trade the Nets would be interested in at this stage would be Kyrie for Ben.


Probably you are right, but that's not a trade the Sixers should make. I dont really think any team is going to give up real value for Irving right now either.


Give it a couple more weeks and see if things change , people seem less on Hardens case now than a couple weeks ago.

Kyrie is still a 25ppg scorer and would not overly detract from Shake and Maxey's development like Harden probably would of done.
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Post#1385 » by Iverson Armband » Fri Jan 22, 2021 4:35 am

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Only trade the Nets would be interested in at this stage would be Kyrie for Ben.


Probably you are right, but that's not a trade the Sixers should make. I dont really think any team is going to give up real value for Irving right now either.


Give it a couple more weeks and see if things change , people seem less on Hardens case now than a couple weeks ago.

Kyrie is still a 25ppg scorer and would not overly detract from Shake and Maxey's development like Harden probably would of done.

If Kyrie was normal it would be a no brainer (for any non Simmons stan).
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Re: Around the League: 2020 Offseason 

Post#1386 » by SixthStreet » Fri Jan 22, 2021 5:05 am

Kyrie is from a skillset the perfect third banana for Durant/Harden. He can space the floor, annihilate bad closeouts he'll get a ton of, and cook overmatched defenders against opponents bench heavy lineups.

Too bad he's completely unhinged. He's corrosive and will eat away at the Nets. I predict if he's not going to traded the Nets will send him home for an extended time at least once this season.
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Post#1387 » by 76ciology » Fri Jan 22, 2021 5:16 am

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Post#1388 » by 76ciology » Fri Jan 22, 2021 10:20 am

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Does he have more upside?
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Post#1389 » by Negrodamus » Fri Jan 22, 2021 1:32 pm

Kevin Porter to the Rockets. Wonder how he’ll do with another notoriously incendiary personality in the locker room.
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Post#1390 » by Iverson Armband » Fri Jan 22, 2021 2:55 pm

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Does he have more upside?

That was really impressive. To answer your question, Lavine is a baller. Ballers always have the potential to get better.
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Re: Around the League: 2020 Offseason 

Post#1391 » by youngcrev » Fri Jan 22, 2021 3:31 pm

I think LaVine would be an elite 6th man (like Lou Will on steroids). Of course, I don't imagine ego would allow for that.

And yes, this post is simultaneously trolling while also being true.
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Post#1392 » by Sixerscan » Fri Jan 22, 2021 3:33 pm

Two LA teams seem pretty far ahead of the pack right now. Jazz are playing well but they’ve had stretches like this in the past. Nuggets haven’t looked the same but maybe Porter coming back will fix that (he’s probably not helping their defense though which has been pretty disappointing even with losing Jerami). The Lakers looking this good with Davis having a bad stretch to start the year is pretty scary.

Wouldn’t say anyone in the East has really distinguished themselves yet. A lot of that has to do with covid stuff and in the Nets case the harden trade just happening making it hard for anyone to find a rhythm just yet.

The Bucks are definitely not nearly as deep as last year. They traded the depth that allowed them to run through the league on cruise control for a smaller group of guys that will hopefully for them be more effective in the playoffs. That said if Lopez is just getting old then they’re gonna have real questions about the 4th and 5th guys that finish games for them. They don’t really have obvious salary to make trades with.
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Post#1393 » by youngcrev » Fri Jan 22, 2021 3:52 pm

Denver needs to make a move. They don't stand a chance against either LA team if Millsap, Porter Jr or Barton are gonna be on Lebron or Kawhi for a full series. Feels like a prime landing spot for PJ Tucker.
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Post#1394 » by snoopdogg88 » Fri Jan 22, 2021 3:54 pm

As things settle down over the coming months I expect us to finish around 3rd-4th in the conference.

As a franchise and with our leaders we just don’t ever have the urgency and killer instinct to really dominate the regular season like we could. And whenever Joel rests it’s an automatic loss.

Nets and Bucks and possibly the Celtics will finish ahead of us.

Although come playoff time I’m not as worried about the Bucks as I’ve been in years past. I think we can finally take the Celtics in a series. Think the Nets would wipe the floor with us though.
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Post#1395 » by Sixerscan » Fri Jan 22, 2021 4:00 pm

snoopdogg88 wrote:As things settle down over the coming months I expect us to finish around 3rd-4th in the conference.

As a franchise and with our leaders we just don’t ever have the urgency and killer instinct to really dominate the regular season like we could. And whenever Joel rests it’s an automatic loss.

Nets and Bucks and possibly the Celtics will finish ahead of us.

Although come playoff time I’m not as worried about the Bucks as I’ve been in years past. I think we can finally take the Celtics in a series. Think the Nets would wipe the floor with us though.

Probably, we’re the team in the best position to still make trades at this point though. Nets and Bucks have traded almost all their stuff, Celtics have their picks and that trade exception but they’re also hard capped from doing anything too big.

Comes down to who is available and if Morey decides to pull the trigger versus waiting.
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Post#1396 » by ProcessDoctor » Fri Jan 22, 2021 4:02 pm

youngcrev wrote:Denver needs to make a move. They don't stand a chance against either LA team if Millsap, Porter Jr or Barton are gonna be on Lebron or Kawhi for a full series. Feels like a prime landing spot for PJ Tucker.


Sounds like a perfect landing spot for Ben Simmons.
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Post#1397 » by 76ciology » Fri Jan 22, 2021 4:25 pm

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snoopdogg88 wrote:As things settle down over the coming months I expect us to finish around 3rd-4th in the conference.

As a franchise and with our leaders we just don’t ever have the urgency and killer instinct to really dominate the regular season like we could. And whenever Joel rests it’s an automatic loss.

Nets and Bucks and possibly the Celtics will finish ahead of us.

Although come playoff time I’m not as worried about the Bucks as I’ve been in years past. I think we can finally take the Celtics in a series. Think the Nets would wipe the floor with us though.

Probably, we’re the team in the best position to still make trades at this point though. Nets and Bucks have traded almost all their stuff, Celtics have their picks and that trade exception but they’re also hard capped from doing anything too big.

Comes down to who is available and if Morey decides to pull the trigger versus waiting.


May I know why you think the Celts are hard capped? They have picks, trade exemption and can trade Kemba or maybe even Jaylen Brown. Although there’s not really any player out there for them to trade Jaylen Brown for with how Jaylen is playing right now.

The reason I asked is in line with my belief that almost all contenders have spent their picks already, this lead them to be hard capped. But I dont put the Celts in this category.

I do think that Celts, Nuggets and us are lead hunters for the next big star who wants out.
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Post#1398 » by 76ciology » Fri Jan 22, 2021 4:26 pm

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youngcrev wrote:Denver needs to make a move. They don't stand a chance against either LA team if Millsap, Porter Jr or Barton are gonna be on Lebron or Kawhi for a full series. Feels like a prime landing spot for PJ Tucker.


Sounds like a perfect landing spot for Ben Simmons.


Any team that built with that increasing growing trend of having 2 combo guard backcourts would make Ben a perfect fit.
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Re: Around the League: 2020 Offseason 

Post#1399 » by youngcrev » Fri Jan 22, 2021 4:40 pm

76ciology wrote:
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youngcrev wrote:Denver needs to make a move. They don't stand a chance against either LA team if Millsap, Porter Jr or Barton are gonna be on Lebron or Kawhi for a full series. Feels like a prime landing spot for PJ Tucker.


Sounds like a perfect landing spot for Ben Simmons.


Any team that built with that increasing growing trend of having 2 combo guard backcourts would make Ben a perfect fit.


You mean like a team who closes games with Shake and Seth Curry types? :)
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Re: Around the League: 2020 Offseason 

Post#1400 » by Sixerscan » Fri Jan 22, 2021 5:52 pm

76ciology wrote:
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snoopdogg88 wrote:As things settle down over the coming months I expect us to finish around 3rd-4th in the conference.

As a franchise and with our leaders we just don’t ever have the urgency and killer instinct to really dominate the regular season like we could. And whenever Joel rests it’s an automatic loss.

Nets and Bucks and possibly the Celtics will finish ahead of us.

Although come playoff time I’m not as worried about the Bucks as I’ve been in years past. I think we can finally take the Celtics in a series. Think the Nets would wipe the floor with us though.

Probably, we’re the team in the best position to still make trades at this point though. Nets and Bucks have traded almost all their stuff, Celtics have their picks and that trade exception but they’re also hard capped from doing anything too big.

Comes down to who is available and if Morey decides to pull the trigger versus waiting.


May I know why you think the Celts are hard capped? They have picks, trade exemption and can trade Kemba or maybe even Jaylen Brown. Although there’s not really any player out there for them to trade Jaylen Brown for with how Jaylen is playing right now.

The reason I asked is in line with my belief that almost all contenders have spent their picks already, this lead them to be hard capped. But I dont put the Celts in this category.

I do think that Celts, Nuggets and us are lead hunters for the next big star who wants out.


I’m talking literally about the hard cap on how much salary they can pay this year. They signed Thompson to the full mid level which triggers the hard cap. They can’t use that entire Hayward trade exception to add salary because it would cause them to exceed the hard cap. They may just wait until after the season to use it when they aren’t hard capped anymore.

Their other big salary guys are already core players for them so while they’re definitely more likely to trade than the Bucks and so on, I don’t see another easy obvious way for them to add depth via trade this year. Whereas if Morey wanted to he could pretty use the trade exception or the various expiring guys along with picks to add. Doesn’t mean he will.

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