Should we replace Bud now ? (58 season games remaining)

[KidA24]

Happy Jason Kidd got fired anniversary.

[midranger]

I think we’ll keep Bud on, lose in the second round, and he won’t be our coach next year.

My main prayer is we have a wink/nod deal with Masai/Giannis for this summer and he comes in as POBO to hire his own guy.

Either way, without a Finals appearance or at least a hard fought 7 game ECF series, I don’t want Bud back next year.

[BigO]

Our bench **** blows dude. You can think Bud sucks (totally fair position) and also be honest about our bench. It sucks and it’s a real problem for this team, and those guys are getting wiped off the court in any meaningful playoff series.

Yes, Prez you are right, but that doesn't change the fact that our coach is not coaching in game. In fact he is reaching at Kidd's level of stubborness.

For example, today, Donte,Brook,Pat,Augustin bricked everything... why doesn't give Nwora and Merrill some burn. Jesus, sub them in and heat check them, if they are hot, ride them, they are not get the vets back in.

He didn't challenge Giannis foul on Lebron which was a clear block.

At the end of the 3rd quarter 20 sec remaining and we can spent all the time, Khris & Jrue are on court and somehow Augustine brings the ball up and plays iso. He tried to create something dribbling but his handles didn't allow him to create anything for him or others.

Why does he let Giannis bring up the ball and playmake so often ? At the start of the game everything was working great, Giannis in the paint and Jrue doing his thing, scoring at will . Why did he let Giannis dominate the ball in the next 3 quarters ?

Every single game runs a weak lineup where our opponent score at will and we often lose our point differential and sometimes the lead. Today he subbed out at the same time Giannis and Jrue, letting only Khris on court.

Today at some point of the game can't remember the quarter cause I'm frustrated he was late at subbing Jrue in.

Anyway I am tired of whining every game about him, but it always hurt to see us losing. We raised from the asses as a Franchise and we expect to improve and make it to the Finals. It is really disappointing to fail to do so cause of some tweaks. We did the hard part , we should have be a better team than 2 years ago, but unfortunately we are not, maybe a bit, but not making the leap to be successful.

Agreed. My point isn't that the bench is any good. It's that in the scheme of things, benches aren't the key to winning championships. Most teams benches suck, except for maybe the first person off the bench. In the playoffs, the starters are playing close to 40 minutes a game and when they're on the bench, other starters don't go out. The bench is shortened.

But the coach is even more important in the playoffs. We need someone who can play chess with Spoelstra, Rivers, Stevens, et al. Bud is incapable. I've been hoping he sees the light, but even his attempts to try different defenses are short-lived.

[Fotis St]

Who are the top coaches available at the moment?

Other ideas for coaches who might be available this offseason?

I don't think we have addition by subtraction just getting rid of Bud.

I think we do have.
As another poster said here, I believe that Bud has reached his ceiling with the Bucks.
He can't do better. I would thank him with all my heart.
The 5-out scheme indeed helped us win games and Giannis to blossom at some point.
I think Giannis has reached his 1st floor ceiling, maybe he can penetrate and take himself to another level,
but the ceiling is from concrete , it is hard to penetrate, not impossible but it will take time and certain tools to master.
On the other hand Bud's ceiling is unbreakable in my opinion. He is 51 years old, he is not getting any better at his age and experience. That's it, he is who he is and of course we should be grateful to have him, he led us the way to win games.
Now we need someone to continue to improve us with fresh ideas and schemes.

[BigO]

Who are the top coaches available at the moment?

Other ideas for coaches who might be available this offseason?

I don't think we have addition by subtraction just getting rid of Bud.

I think we do have.
As another poster said here, I believe that Bud has reached his ceiling with the Bucks.
He can't do better. I would thank him with all my heart.
The 5-out scheme indeed helped us win games and Giannis to blossom at some point.
I think Giannis has reached his 1st floor ceiling, maybe he can penetrate and take himself to another level,
but the ceiling is from concrete , it is hard to penetrate, not impossible but it will take time and certain tools to master.
On the other hand Bud's ceiling is unbreakable in my opinion. He is 51 years old, he is not getting any better at his age and experience. That's it, he is who he is and of course we should ne grateful to have him, to lead us the way to win games.
Now we need someone to continue to improve us with fresh ideas and schemes.

100%

[raferfenix]

Addition by subtraction would most likely equate to an interim head coach.

Is the proposal that we have a current assistant coach who would be better than Bud?

Or do we want to commit to an outside coach longer term midseason? If so, who?

[Matches Malone]

Addition by subtraction would most likely equate to an interim head coach.

Is the proposal that we have a current assistant coach who would be better than Bud?

Or do we want to commit to an outside coach longer term midseason? If so, who?

In my opinion, I think moving on from Bud mid-season is unrealistic. He's got at least this season to see what happens.

If by some weird twist of fate they did move on mid-season, Charles Lee is the guy I'd like to see, but they'd probably give it to Darvin Ham for interim. I'd look outside then after the season. Whole new staff (not including suki and strength etc.).

[ABucksFan]

Addition by subtraction would most likely equate to an interim head coach.

Is the proposal that we have a current assistant coach who would be better than Bud?

Or do we want to commit to an outside coach longer term midseason? If so, who?

Stackhouse interim.

Long term...maybe Stackhouse, Tony Bennett, Euro coach.

[raferfenix]

Toronto promoted Nick Nurse from an assistant coach after firing Dwane Casey in the 2018 offseason.

Similarly to Budenholzer, Casey had big time regular season success, with the Raptors going 59-23 and earning the #1 seed during the 2018 season. However they were swept in the Eastern Conference semifinals by the Cavs.

The Bucks could have taken a similar tact this offseason after we disappointed vs Miami, but we didn't.

If we have a Nick Nurse on the bench already as an assistant we could in theory make them an interim head coach.

But if we don't have that caliber of a coach on deck I'm having a hard time seeing how we achieve addition by subtraction.

[trwi7]

Bud has a circle of trust, and Thanasis is in it.

Then fire the **** Jack Burns wannabe.

*High fives self for correct movie reference*

[Fotis St]

Addition by subtraction would most likely equate to an interim head coach.

Is the proposal that we have a current assistant coach who would be better than Bud?

Or do we want to commit to an outside coach longer term midseason? If so, who?

Stackhouse interim.

Long term...maybe Stackhouse, Tony Bennett, Euro coach.

Yes, I wouldn't mind signing Jerry Stackhouse .
I would love to explore the NCAA Coach scene.
Since I assume that in NCAA alot teams play Zone Defense, I would like we hire one with alot of experience against zone defenses cause opponents Wall Giannis on transition and then Form a Zone Defense to guard the paint.
Who are the best or upcoming NCAA Coaches ? I would definitely check the NCAA

[emunney]

Here, taking who's shooting into account:

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[giannis and 1]

Even if we have a deep run (like making it to the finals) but we lose and Bud is a big part of it, I would probably fire him.

Oh no way. I dont like Bud but if we play in Finals no way I fire him. He is great regular season coach. If he can lead us to Finals then he is perfect.

But he cant and I dont think we play in conference finals. Unless we get lucky and opponent in 2nd round has injuries or someone goes crazy like Kyrie in 2019.

But what if Buds lineups, lack of adjustments, overall defensive scheme, etc. are a big reason why we lose the series in the finals?

[Fotis St]

I am keeping this alive as a log , as a Heat chair check ...

"Yes, replace Bud" overall 44/97 votes that's 45% a significant raise after we lost from Lakers. We play against the Hawks today

[Fotis St]

Can somebody sent this poll to Lasry's Twitter or something ? 44% of the die hard fans want Bud gone ... that's would be enough to start thinking about it, i doubt he even cares though. As this s****d slogan .... "Future Secured - Seats Secured" ... like telling everyone that we only care the seats and the commercial part of the Franchise ... who cares about winning anymore in this Org. If they cared they would start by hiring a competent GM who would hire a competent coach..

[FrieAaron]

Who are we replacing Bud with. Why fire him just to fire him? Out of hopes that a change alone will shake things up enough to get us going? Bud has always been a coach who got the most out of his roster during the regular season but couldn't get them to the finish line in the playoffs, so what does it say that this team is struggling so much under this coaching staff in the regular season? On top of that, he's done a number of things people have been asking for. Maybe the issue is just that we have three very good players and every other spot in the roster is comparatively below average.

[FrieAaron]

Here, taking who's shooting into account:

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To make sure that I'm reading this right - does this mean we're letting the worse shooters shoot but they're making them way more frequently than would be expected? Compared to Washington who is both giving up threes to good three point shooters AND those shooters are shooting better than expected?

[emunney]

Here, taking who's shooting into account:

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To make sure that I'm reading this right - does this mean we're letting the worse shooters shoot but they're making them way more frequently than would be expected? Compared to Washington who is both giving up threes to good three point shooters AND those shooters are shooting better than expected?

That's how I read it. Not sure how or if this has changed in the past few games.

[midranger]

I was kind of fine with riding it out with Bud, restructuring the front office and letting them deal with it in the offseason.

But, watching the Packers lose again makes me realize, windows are short, stars may be fickle. Don’t waste another opportunity on McCarthy like the Pack did for at least 3 seasons too long.

This team as currently structured isn’t winning a second round series despite the top end talent . Get a new voice in there and see if it helps.

[Packbuckman]

Yes it’s time to fire him and I would do it now and let Darvin Ham coach the rest of the year. He fails to adjust his defense to protect the 3 pt line and his rotations and time outs have been head scratching like I am back in the Kidd years.