Sharife Cooper - Auburn

Chi town · Post #21 » by **Chi town** » Sun Jan 24, 2021 12:00 am

His passing and playmaking is elite.

Size and shot limit his ceiling though.

King Ken · Post #22 » by **King Ken** » Sun Jan 24, 2021 4:37 pm

I always felt hes the next Chris Paul out of HS. I still see a lot of CP3. I wish he would stay for his sophomore year like Paul did where he can lock that top 3 status in and be one of the best players in the NBA from day 1. I don't know if he's ready right now. He has a 1st round grade but he's more in the same range with Watford. I would love to see him return to Auburn. I don't really encourage guys with 1st round grades to return but considering his potential and position. It's better that he enters when he's polished.

clyde21 · Post #23 » by **clyde21** » Mon Jan 25, 2021 2:20 am

that's a ballsy comp, don't see how Cooper becomes anywhere the defender that Paul was coming out of school even if he stays back, Cp3 is has been an incredible defender with supreme BBIQ on both sides of the court, and developed a pretty sophisticated scoring repertoire

Sharife is intriguing but comping him to Cp3 at this point isn't doing him any favors imo

BoyzNTheHood · Post #24 » by **BoyzNTheHood** » Wed Jan 27, 2021 1:02 am

I just heard Fraschilla comparing him to TJ Ford while calling the Texas/Oklahoma State game.

King Ken · Post #25 » by **King Ken** » Wed Jan 27, 2021 7:50 am

clyde21 wrote:that's a ballsy comp, don't see how Cooper becomes anywhere the defender that Paul was coming out of school even if he stays back, Cp3 is has been an incredible defender with supreme BBIQ on both sides of the court, and developed a pretty sophisticated scoring repertoire

Sharife is intriguing but comping him to Cp3 at this point isn't doing him any favors imo

Good point, I was thinking offensively more than anything. CP3 defense was special in his 2nd year at Wake.

babyjax13 · Post #26 » by **babyjax13** » Wed Jan 27, 2021 8:36 am

clyde21 wrote:that's a ballsy comp, don't see how Cooper becomes anywhere the defender that Paul was coming out of school even if he stays back, Cp3 is has been an incredible defender with supreme BBIQ on both sides of the court, and developed a pretty sophisticated scoring repertoire

Sharife is intriguing but comping him to Cp3 at this point isn't doing him any favors imo

I think the way Sharife can control the pace of a game at the college level is very reminiscent of CP3, but that's only one aspect of Paul's game.

karkinos · Post #27 » by **karkinos** » Wed Jan 27, 2021 11:54 pm

Watch on YouTube

he has the skill set for the modern nba guard.

Post #28 » by **Marcus** » Thu Jan 28, 2021 2:31 am

babyjax13 wrote:
clyde21 wrote:that's a ballsy comp, don't see how Cooper becomes anywhere the defender that Paul was coming out of school even if he stays back, Cp3 is has been an incredible defender with supreme BBIQ on both sides of the court, and developed a pretty sophisticated scoring repertoire

Sharife is intriguing but comping him to Cp3 at this point isn't doing him any favors imo

I think the way Sharife can control the pace of a game at the college level is very reminiscent of CP3, but that's only one aspect of Paul's game.

yeah i feel into that same trap with Tyus Jones during his Duke run. Sooooooo many layers to Chris Paul's game that will be extremely difficult to replicate in someone his size.

God Squad · Post #29 » by **God Squad** » Fri Jan 29, 2021 5:58 am

I see the appeal with Cooper, I like his defense instincts how he's able to beat a guard in position and get a charge. The offensive game looks complete also. I'm not sure who he's similar to, or if he's his own mold. But he looks good and surely lotto bound.

babyjax13 · Post #30 » by **babyjax13** » Fri Jan 29, 2021 7:10 am

Marcus wrote:
babyjax13 wrote:
clyde21 wrote:that's a ballsy comp, don't see how Cooper becomes anywhere the defender that Paul was coming out of school even if he stays back, Cp3 is has been an incredible defender with supreme BBIQ on both sides of the court, and developed a pretty sophisticated scoring repertoire

Sharife is intriguing but comping him to Cp3 at this point isn't doing him any favors imo

I think the way Sharife can control the pace of a game at the college level is very reminiscent of CP3, but that's only one aspect of Paul's game.

yeah i feel into that same trap with Tyus Jones during his Duke run. Sooooooo many layers to Chris Paul's game that will be extremely difficult to replicate in someone his size.

Tyus Jones is an NBA caliber player, I think Sharife is, too. I'm certainly not saying he is going to be nearly as good as CP3, but he clearly is an elite game manager.

cgf · Post #31 » by **cgf** » Fri Jan 29, 2021 4:38 pm

That shot is just so ugly for a kid who will need to be an elite shooter to make it.

Post #32 » by **Marcus** » Sat Jan 30, 2021 5:16 pm

babyjax13 wrote:
Marcus wrote:
babyjax13 wrote:
I think the way Sharife can control the pace of a game at the college level is very reminiscent of CP3, but that's only one aspect of Paul's game.

yeah i feel into that same trap with Tyus Jones during his Duke run. Sooooooo many layers to Chris Paul's game that will be extremely difficult to replicate in someone his size.

Tyus Jones is an NBA caliber player, I think Sharife is, too. I'm certainly not saying he is going to be nearly as good as CP3, but he clearly is an elite game manager.

Understood. Was more of a statement of my underrating of all the aspects of CP3's game.

Post #33 » by **jman3134** » Sun Jan 31, 2021 7:09 pm

cgf wrote:My problem with Cooper is that to be successful in the NBA he doesn't just need to become a capable shooter at the next level, he needs to become an absolutely elite shooter. And that's just really hard to project him becoming, given how bad his shot is right now.

He's a lot of fun to watch at this level though.

Someone through out the Isaiah Thomas comparison. How was he as a shooter at the collegiate level?

This kid's vision is elite and game changing. He is an NBA talent regardless of size.

EMG518 · Post #34 » by **EMG518** » Wed Apr 28, 2021 8:39 am

His basketball IQ is elite. The way he gets defenders to make a slight move out of position with a fake or hesitation which opens up their man for a basket, his handles are top notch and with his athleticism he moves really well with the ball, and he has great vision and passing. Shooting needs to improve but 82.5% from the line and the type of player he is leads me to believe he will improve. He plays tough on defense and rebounds well for a small guard. I am sure he will be below avg there but passable is all that is needed in my opinion and he could add some weight which could help there. I'm in on him if you couldn't tell.

GSWFan1994 · Post #35 » by **GSWFan1994** » Wed Apr 28, 2021 3:01 pm

jman3134 wrote:Someone through out the Isaiah Thomas comparison. How was he as a shooter at the collegiate level?

This kid's vision is elite and game changing. He is an NBA talent regardless of size.

Thomas (who's still only 31!) shot 42%FG / 32%3pt / 71%FT.

But Cooper is on another level: 39%FG / 23%3pt / 82%FT.

These numbers are not cut it in the NBA. He has to improve A LOT.

Cooper is talented, maybe even a late lottery pick (just takes 1 team to make it happen), but his shooting (and improvement) will seal his fate, potential-wise.

That said, I like him, seems like he could be a very good backup PG at least.

TB · Post #36 » by TB » Wed Apr 28, 2021 6:22 pm

He's definitely in the category of an elite high school PG that has initially struggled with efficiency against bigger players. Guys like Telfair, TJ Ford, Nico Mannion.

I personally like Coopers chance of getting to a respectable percentage from 2 and 3 more than the others, but its hard to assume he will ever be efficient like a Mike Conley or Chris Paul.

I think he ends up as a better version of Ford/Telfair simply because he plays in an era where he is well aware how much work needs to go into that jumper. And if he gets it even respectable, he is miles ahead of most PGs in terms of running a team.

So i'd actually put him late lotto because I believe in him getting his efficiency up and being a starting PG.

clyde21 · Post #37 » by **clyde21** » Wed Apr 28, 2021 6:58 pm

if you watch Cooper tape he was just missing a lot of open shots, don't really think it was because he was struggling to get open looks...I'm sure there is some of that by virtue of him being 6 foot, but i'd say a smaller portion.

TB · Post #38 » by TB » Wed Apr 28, 2021 8:47 pm

clyde21 wrote:if you watch Cooper tape he was just missing a lot of open shots, don't really think it was because he was struggling to get open looks...I'm sure there is some of that by virtue of him being 6 foot, but i'd say a smaller portion.

Is that a good or bad thing? :lol:

Guess it depends on if you think he's got a workable shot or the ability to change it into something successful.

EMG518 · Post #39 » by **EMG518** » Wed Apr 28, 2021 9:24 pm

TB wrote:
clyde21 wrote:if you watch Cooper tape he was just missing a lot of open shots, don't really think it was because he was struggling to get open looks...I'm sure there is some of that by virtue of him being 6 foot, but i'd say a smaller portion.

Is that a good or bad thing?

Guess it depends on if you think he's got a workable shot or the ability to change it into something successful.

It's a good thing. It means the issue was mechanics and he needs to work on it and get more reps in which is easier to fix than having issues actually getting open and getting your shot off uncontested.

clyde21 · Post #40 » by **clyde21** » Wed Apr 28, 2021 9:42 pm

TB wrote:
clyde21 wrote:if you watch Cooper tape he was just missing a lot of open shots, don't really think it was because he was struggling to get open looks...I'm sure there is some of that by virtue of him being 6 foot, but i'd say a smaller portion.

Is that a good or bad thing?

Guess it depends on if you think he's got a workable shot or the ability to change it into something successful.

neither, just an observation, it'd be a different story entirely if he just couldn't get open, which would be worse imo.