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Re: GT: Heat @ Nets, 1/23/21, 8pm EST 

Post#221 » by Paradise » Mon Jan 25, 2021 2:27 am

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NetsJets wrote:Hyperbole


its not hyperbole. like hardens 4 games with the nets are better then Leverts bubble stats (best ball of leverts career)

No. LeVert’s Blazers game is better than what Harden did against the Heat.

You do realize Caris probably could’ve ended up in a hospital and out for the season?

Harden has been here for less than a 3 weeks span on one practice and still helped us beat Orland and Milwaukee putting up historic numbers without Kyrie and no practice. Caris can’t even do that. Love him, though.

He has no desire to shoot 20 times and what’s wrong with that? Let Harden feed Kyrie so he can make the media and fans STFU. We can score effectively regardless. Harden should be more aggressive when he’s on the floor by himself, though but that comes with a feel for the game too.
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Re: GT: Heat @ Nets, 1/23/21, 8pm EST 

Post#222 » by Prokorov » Mon Jan 25, 2021 2:31 am

This is flat out bullcrap...

Read on Twitter


So Kyrie and Bam can be inches apart breathing, sweating, coughing, yelling, spitting, pushing, shoving, and grabbing each other for 40 minutes.... but swapping jerseys after the game is unsafe?

NBA needs to cut the crap. either be real about safety or dont. these fugazy shows of "safety" fool no one
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Re: GT: Heat @ Nets, 1/23/21, 8pm EST 

Post#223 » by NetsJets » Mon Jan 25, 2021 2:33 am

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its not hyperbole. like hardens 4 games with the nets are better then Leverts bubble stats (best ball of leverts career)

No. LeVert’s Blazers game is better than what Harden did against the Heat.


that is 1 game. and levert probably would have sucked against the heat too, because... you know, he is an inefficient chucker

Now you’re moving the goalposts
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Re: GT: Heat @ Nets, 1/23/21, 8pm EST 

Post#224 » by NetsJets » Mon Jan 25, 2021 2:36 am

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Prokorov wrote:
its not hyperbole. like hardens 4 games with the nets are better then Leverts bubble stats (best ball of leverts career)

No. LeVert’s Blazers game is better than what Harden did against the Heat.

You do realize Caris probably could’ve ended up in a hospital and out for the season?

Harden has been here for less than a 3 weeks span on one practice and still helped us beat Orland and Milwaukee putting up historic numbers without Kyrie and no practice. Caris can’t even do that. Love him, though.

He has no desire to shoot 20 times and what’s wrong with that? Let Harden feed Kyrie so he can make the media and fans STFU. We can score effectively regardless. Harden should be more aggressive when he’s on the floor by himself, though but that comes with a feel for the game too.

What are you talking about in regards to LeVert? Anyway, when Kyrie and KD is off the court we need him to be more aggressive, take his man off the dribble, stop settling for inefficient 3 pointers. We brought him in to be James Harden not Rondo.
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Re: GT: Heat @ Nets, 1/23/21, 8pm EST 

Post#225 » by Prokorov » Mon Jan 25, 2021 2:37 am

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NetsJets wrote:No. LeVert’s Blazers game is better than what Harden did against the Heat.


that is 1 game. and levert probably would have sucked against the heat too, because... you know, he is an inefficient chucker

Now you’re moving the goalposts


Who is moving goalposts? i stated that Harden's 4 games with the nets are statistically better then leverts best stretch of basketball (his games in the bubble). which is a 100% indisputable fact.

you decided to cherry pick 1 game.

Harden at his worst is better then levert as his best. and frankly, it isnt remotely close. Harden "struggling" is a 24/12/8 player on 60+ TS.

Leverts "best" season is 18/6/4 on 51 TS%
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Re: GT: Heat @ Nets, 1/23/21, 8pm EST 

Post#226 » by NetsJets » Mon Jan 25, 2021 2:43 am

Prokorov wrote:
NetsJets wrote:
Prokorov wrote:
that is 1 game. and levert probably would have sucked against the heat too, because... you know, he is an inefficient chucker

Now you’re moving the goalposts


Who is moving goalposts? i stated that Harden's 4 games with the nets are statistically better then leverts best stretch of basketball (his games in the bubble). which is a 100% indisputable fact.

you decided to cherry pick 1 game.

Harden at his worst is better then levert as his best. and frankly, it isnt remotely close. Harden "struggling" is a 24/12/8 player on 60+ TS.

Leverts "best" season is 18/6/4 on 51 TS%

I didn’t cherry-pick anything. If Harden’s 4 games are better then that means none of LeVert’s games in the bubble should be better than any game in the 4 game sample from Harden.
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Re: GT: Heat @ Nets, 1/23/21, 8pm EST 

Post#227 » by Prokorov » Mon Jan 25, 2021 2:55 am

NetsJets wrote:
Prokorov wrote:
NetsJets wrote:Now you’re moving the goalposts


Who is moving goalposts? i stated that Harden's 4 games with the nets are statistically better then leverts best stretch of basketball (his games in the bubble). which is a 100% indisputable fact.

you decided to cherry pick 1 game.

Harden at his worst is better then levert as his best. and frankly, it isnt remotely close. Harden "struggling" is a 24/12/8 player on 60+ TS.

Leverts "best" season is 18/6/4 on 51 TS%

I didn’t cherry-pick anything. If Harden’s 4 games are better then that means none of LeVert’s games in the bubble should be better than any game in the 4 game sample from Harden.


no it doesnt. hardens 4 games are 4 games. not 1. leverts bubble is 14 games, not 1.

using a 1 game sample is cherry picking

Caris levert is an inefficient chucking role player. Harden at his worst is still an all-star.
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Re: GT: Heat @ Nets, 1/23/21, 8pm EST 

Post#228 » by NetsJets » Mon Jan 25, 2021 3:06 am

Prokorov wrote:
NetsJets wrote:
Prokorov wrote:
Who is moving goalposts? i stated that Harden's 4 games with the nets are statistically better then leverts best stretch of basketball (his games in the bubble). which is a 100% indisputable fact.

you decided to cherry pick 1 game.

Harden at his worst is better then levert as his best. and frankly, it isnt remotely close. Harden "struggling" is a 24/12/8 player on 60+ TS.

Leverts "best" season is 18/6/4 on 51 TS%

I didn’t cherry-pick anything. If Harden’s 4 games are better then that means none of LeVert’s games in the bubble should be better than any game in the 4 game sample from Harden.


no it doesnt. hardens 4 games are 4 games. not 1. leverts bubble is 14 games, not 1.

using a 1 game sample is cherry picking

Caris levert is an inefficient chucking role player. Harden at his worst is still an all-star.

Yes it does. I compared one game vs one game. Not one game vs 4. You may be satisfied but we need more especially when the other stars are off the court.
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Re: GT: Heat @ Nets, 1/23/21, 8pm EST 

Post#229 » by Prokorov » Mon Jan 25, 2021 3:11 am

NetsJets wrote:
Prokorov wrote:
NetsJets wrote:I didn’t cherry-pick anything. If Harden’s 4 games are better then that means none of LeVert’s games in the bubble should be better than any game in the 4 game sample from Harden.


no it doesnt. hardens 4 games are 4 games. not 1. leverts bubble is 14 games, not 1.

using a 1 game sample is cherry picking

Caris levert is an inefficient chucking role player. Harden at his worst is still an all-star.

Yes it does. I compared one game vs one game. Not one game vs 4. You may be satisfied but we need more especially when the other stars are off the court.


yes, as mentioned you cherry picked 1 game. 1 game is a meaningless sample. Hardens 4 games as a net is better then Leverts best stretch of play. this is fact, not opinion.
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Re: GT: Heat @ Nets, 1/23/21, 8pm EST 

Post#230 » by Openheimer » Mon Jan 25, 2021 3:17 am

NetsJets wrote:
Prokorov wrote:
NetsJets wrote:Now you’re moving the goalposts


Who is moving goalposts? i stated that Harden's 4 games with the nets are statistically better then leverts best stretch of basketball (his games in the bubble). which is a 100% indisputable fact.

you decided to cherry pick 1 game.

Harden at his worst is better then levert as his best. and frankly, it isnt remotely close. Harden "struggling" is a 24/12/8 player on 60+ TS.

Leverts "best" season is 18/6/4 on 51 TS%

I didn’t cherry-pick anything. If Harden’s 4 games are better then that means none of LeVert’s games in the bubble should be better than any game in the 4 game sample from Harden.

Hardens court vision and playmaking skills are invaluable. LeVert was a scorer . Harden is a all time great scorer and playmaker. He will have a stretch soon where he will average 35-10-7
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Re: GT: Heat @ Nets, 1/23/21, 8pm EST 

Post#231 » by Prokorov » Mon Jan 25, 2021 3:19 am

Openheimer wrote:
NetsJets wrote:
Prokorov wrote:
Who is moving goalposts? i stated that Harden's 4 games with the nets are statistically better then leverts best stretch of basketball (his games in the bubble). which is a 100% indisputable fact.

you decided to cherry pick 1 game.

Harden at his worst is better then levert as his best. and frankly, it isnt remotely close. Harden "struggling" is a 24/12/8 player on 60+ TS.

Leverts "best" season is 18/6/4 on 51 TS%

I didn’t cherry-pick anything. If Harden’s 4 games are better then that means none of LeVert’s games in the bubble should be better than any game in the 4 game sample from Harden.

Hardens court vision and playmaking skills are invaluable. LeVert was a scorer . Harden is a all time great scorer and playmaker. He will have a stretch soon where he will average 35-10-7


yup.. and levert wasnt even a good scorer. hardens 24 ppg matches about what levert did in the bubble, only harden is doing it on 60+ TS while dropping 10+ dimes a game
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Re: GT: Heat @ Nets, 1/23/21, 8pm EST 

Post#232 » by NetsJets » Mon Jan 25, 2021 4:07 am

Openheimer wrote:
NetsJets wrote:
Prokorov wrote:
Who is moving goalposts? i stated that Harden's 4 games with the nets are statistically better then leverts best stretch of basketball (his games in the bubble). which is a 100% indisputable fact.

you decided to cherry pick 1 game.

Harden at his worst is better then levert as his best. and frankly, it isnt remotely close. Harden "struggling" is a 24/12/8 player on 60+ TS.

Leverts "best" season is 18/6/4 on 51 TS%

I didn’t cherry-pick anything. If Harden’s 4 games are better then that means none of LeVert’s games in the bubble should be better than any game in the 4 game sample from Harden.

Hardens court vision and playmaking skills are invaluable. LeVert was a scorer . Harden is a all time great scorer and playmaker. He will have a stretch soon where he will average 35-10-7

I’m not denying that he’ll have great games. I’m pointing out that we need him to be him. Not passive. We’re getting production from him in these last 3 games that we could get from LeVert. LeVert was not just a “scorer”,
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Re: GT: Heat @ Nets, 1/23/21, 8pm EST 

Post#233 » by Prokorov » Mon Jan 25, 2021 4:28 am

NetsJets wrote:
Openheimer wrote:
NetsJets wrote:I didn’t cherry-pick anything. If Harden’s 4 games are better then that means none of LeVert’s games in the bubble should be better than any game in the 4 game sample from Harden.

Hardens court vision and playmaking skills are invaluable. LeVert was a scorer . Harden is a all time great scorer and playmaker. He will have a stretch soon where he will average 35-10-7

I’m not denying that he’ll have great games. I’m pointing out that we need him to be him. Not passive. We’re getting production from him in these last 3 games that we could get from LeVert. LeVert was not just a “scorer”,


again you cant.

Levert was an awful shooter/chucker.

Levert isnt going to give you 18/10/8 on 60 TS%. he is an inefficent, inconsistent chucker.

We saw what Caris levert could do on a team with Kyrie/KD: 18/6/4 on 50 TS....

levert was a worse shooting, worse rebounding, worse assisting, much less inefficient scoring player. and that was while stat padding a coupke games when kyrie/kd both sat.
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Re: GT: Heat @ Nets, 1/23/21, 8pm EST 

Post#234 » by NetsJets » Mon Jan 25, 2021 4:39 am

Prokorov wrote:
NetsJets wrote:
Openheimer wrote:Hardens court vision and playmaking skills are invaluable. LeVert was a scorer . Harden is a all time great scorer and playmaker. He will have a stretch soon where he will average 35-10-7

I’m not denying that he’ll have great games. I’m pointing out that we need him to be him. Not passive. We’re getting production from him in these last 3 games that we could get from LeVert. LeVert was not just a “scorer”,


again you cant.

Levert was an awful shooter/chucker.

Levert isnt going to give you 18/10/8 on 60 TS%. he is an inefficent, inconsistent chucker.

We saw what Caris levert could do on a team with Kyrie/KD: 18/6/4 on 50 TS....

levert was a worse shooting, worse rebounding, worse assisting, much less inefficient scoring player. and that was while stat padding a coupke games when kyrie/kd both sat.

Caris LeVert could give us 12 points, 7 rebounds and 11 assists. We need more from James Harden than that.
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Re: GT: Heat @ Nets, 1/23/21, 8pm EST 

Post#235 » by Openheimer » Mon Jan 25, 2021 4:50 am

Look, it’s all in a context. Harden has never played with Kyrie before like he had with KD in OKC. There was a familiarity with Kevin hence harden averaging 33-13-9 with KD and without Kyrie. Harden is trying his best to let Kyrie be Kyrie right now till he gets accumulated with Kyrie in his own pace.

Plus it’s harder to play with a ball dominant player like Kyrie then KD who doesn’t need the rock.They will figure it out.
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Re: GT: Heat @ Nets, 1/23/21, 8pm EST 

Post#236 » by Prokorov » Mon Jan 25, 2021 5:02 am

NetsJets wrote:
Prokorov wrote:
NetsJets wrote:I’m not denying that he’ll have great games. I’m pointing out that we need him to be him. Not passive. We’re getting production from him in these last 3 games that we could get from LeVert. LeVert was not just a “scorer”,


again you cant.

Levert was an awful shooter/chucker.

Levert isnt going to give you 18/10/8 on 60 TS%. he is an inefficent, inconsistent chucker.

We saw what Caris levert could do on a team with Kyrie/KD: 18/6/4 on 50 TS....

levert was a worse shooting, worse rebounding, worse assisting, much less inefficient scoring player. and that was while stat padding a coupke games when kyrie/kd both sat.

Caris LeVert could give us 12 points, 7 rebounds and 11 assists. We need more from James Harden than that.


no he wouldnt. he would give us trash on awful shooting. there i no planet where levert gives us what harden is giving us right now.
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Re: GT: Heat @ Nets, 1/23/21, 8pm EST 

Post#237 » by Prokorov » Mon Jan 25, 2021 5:04 am

Openheimer wrote:Look, it’s all in a context. Harden has never played with Kyrie before like he had with KD in OKC. There was a familiarity with Kevin hence harden averaging 33-13-9 with KD and without Kyrie. Harden is trying his best to let Kyrie be Kyrie right now till he gets accumulated with Kyrie in his own pace.

Plus it’s harder to play with a ball dominant player like Kyrie then KD who doesn’t need the rock.They will figure it out.


I dont really buy that. i mean, harden has played a ton without Kyrie on the floor and alot without kyrie or KD on the floor and he is deferring to guys like TLC, Jeff Green, and Reggie Perry. if it was just when all 3 where on the court yeah maybe.

he is just over correcting trying to be a passer/facilitator. when he is the only star on the floor, he needs to score. i think that will sort itself out.

but this nonsense about levert. people need to stop it.
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Re: GT: Heat @ Nets, 1/23/21, 8pm EST 

Post#238 » by NetsJets » Mon Jan 25, 2021 5:12 am

Prokorov wrote:
NetsJets wrote:
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again you cant.

Levert was an awful shooter/chucker.

Levert isnt going to give you 18/10/8 on 60 TS%. he is an inefficent, inconsistent chucker.

We saw what Caris levert could do on a team with Kyrie/KD: 18/6/4 on 50 TS....

levert was a worse shooting, worse rebounding, worse assisting, much less inefficient scoring player. and that was while stat padding a coupke games when kyrie/kd both sat.

Caris LeVert could give us 12 points, 7 rebounds and 11 assists. We need more from James Harden than that.


no he wouldnt. he would give us trash on awful shooting. there i no planet where levert gives us what harden is giving us right now.

Yes he can. But that’s neither here nor there we need better than that from Harden.
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Re: GT: Heat @ Nets, 1/23/21, 8pm EST 

Post#239 » by Prokorov » Mon Jan 25, 2021 5:28 am

NetsJets wrote:
Prokorov wrote:
NetsJets wrote:Caris LeVert could give us 12 points, 7 rebounds and 11 assists. We need more from James Harden than that.


no he wouldnt. he would give us trash on awful shooting. there i no planet where levert gives us what harden is giving us right now.

Yes he can. But that’s neither here nor there we need better than that from Harden.


We have the facts. levert is an inefficient chucker who was SIGNIFICANTLY worse the harden with Kyrie/KD before the trade. harden has been light years better then levert since being traded here.

stop with this complete nonsense.
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Re: GT: Heat @ Nets, 1/23/21, 8pm EST 

Post#240 » by NetsJets » Mon Jan 25, 2021 5:34 am

Prokorov wrote:
NetsJets wrote:
Prokorov wrote:
no he wouldnt. he would give us trash on awful shooting. there i no planet where levert gives us what harden is giving us right now.

Yes he can. But that’s neither here nor there we need better than that from Harden.


We have the facts. levert is an inefficient chucker who was SIGNIFICANTLY worse the harden with Kyrie/KD before the trade. harden has been light years better then levert since being traded here.

stop with this complete nonsense.

Cool and we need more from Harden than 12 points 7 rebounds and 11 assists which is what LeVert is physically capable of giving us. We can go around in circles with this all day man...

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