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Post#241 » by Prokorov » Mon Jan 25, 2021 2:26 pm

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im not worried about Bam. super overrated.

And there are plenty of bigs out there. Len wasnt a great fit. I like McGee or Dedmon alot better. RHJ as well

Yeah, that Bam guy isn't a threat at all yo us. Even his career high against us was super overrated because we don't have chemistry yet. Jordan, KD, JG all weren't trying either.

I highly disagree about BAM, dude is one of the better big men in the NBA today and he is super talented on both sides of the floor. Dude dropped 42 points on us effortlessly.


He dropped 42 on us because we welcomed him taking off the dribble mid-range jumpers. there was a 0% chance miami was going to beat us that way. that and he got defended by jeff green for half the game, Bam is an all-star big, but he isnt in the same stratosphere as guys like jokic and embiid.
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Post#242 » by Prokorov » Mon Jan 25, 2021 2:28 pm

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He hasn't played in a year, it's really hard to think he will give us much at this point.


I think he could maybe give a bit more then Perry, but expectations beyond that are lofty. he is still essentially a rookie, coming off a layoff nearly as long as KDs. (although obviously nowhere near the injury, just talking rust). He makes jarrett allen look like Thor from a strength and muscle perspective. I'm still not sure he isnt closer to someone like kurucs then he is allen.
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Post#243 » by Prokorov » Mon Jan 25, 2021 2:33 pm

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Bruh :lol:

I'm for bringing in McGee, but this clip is exactly what we don't want. Rebound and get the ball to Kyrie, Harden or KD. We need bigs that will play within their role, and not be out of control. It's one of the reasons I am not a fan of bringing back RHJ. He can make boneheaded plays a little too often.


I dont think thats really a concern with McGee... as i mentioned above and in the other thread he has played with title teams and other mega stars. He will know his role and understand his place and the goal. He isnt someone who tries to be more then he is.

7/7/1.5 in 18-22 minutes with some intimidation on smalls second guessing going all the way vs. pulling up is certainly realistic in my opinon. High IQ guy who has played with KD.

Agree more on RHJ. his game is all in overdrive, and he can tend to make some not-so-ideal plays. but id still bring him in and live with that. i think he could fit and that may be toned down with our roster. I'd also be good with MKG. Either way give me McGee and 1 of those guys and im ready to role.

We could roll out a lineup of:

Harden | Kyrie | RHJ | Durant | McGee. thats 3 elite shooters/scorers and a lob threat. so im not worried about RHJ being a 0 in that instance. and if we really need stops give me 2 of the big 3 with Brown/RHJ/McGee and you still are getting buckets while also getting stops.

the luxury of the big 3 is they dont need spacing to score as much as most guys
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Post#244 » by Prokorov » Mon Jan 25, 2021 2:56 pm

McGee Brings alot of what we are missing... and he does it at an advanced level. His experience shows....

Helps, alters a shot, has the presence to track and get back to his man/the big for a block:
[youtube]https://youtu.be/405s3ALNPA4?t=46[/youtube]
https://youtu.be/405s3ALNPA4?t=46

3 Knicks around him, and he has the size to win the offensive rebound for a second chance:
[youtube]https://youtu.be/qrrF6jn6p2Y?t=2[/youtube]
https://youtu.be/qrrF6jn6p2Y?t=2

More offensive rebounding over multiple guys
[youtube]https://youtu.be/zRUsGvXwlkc?t=136[/youtube]
https://youtu.be/zRUsGvXwlkc?t=136

High screen and roll, straight dive to the hoop, doesnt round it can go up and get it and finish
[youtube]https://youtu.be/zRUsGvXwlkc?t=25[/youtube]
https://youtu.be/zRUsGvXwlkc?t=25

Pick and roll defense... similar situation to how we defend it (small trails, big hedges. McGees length allows him to put uncertainty on the driver and recover and block on the big
[youtube]https://youtu.be/zRUsGvXwlkc?t=67[/youtube]
https://youtu.be/zRUsGvXwlkc?t=67

Another pick and roll. this time a switch, length to bother and deflect the pass
[youtube]https://youtu.be/zRUsGvXwlkc?t=56[/youtube]
https://youtu.be/zRUsGvXwlkc?t=56

Pick and roll, switched on the driving small, doesnt get blown by, blocks it against the backboard
[youtube]https://youtu.be/zRUsGvXwlkc?t=136[/youtube]
https://youtu.be/zRUsGvXwlkc?t=136

Anyone looks good dunking in highlights... but here are just some things he does that actually can help us. Reggie Perry cant do the majority of that and many of these things mcgee does as well or better then Deandre.

His size is needed.
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Post#245 » by MGrand15 » Mon Jan 25, 2021 3:31 pm

I would gladly take RHJ. He'd be playing spot minutes but if we can get him in lineups where Green is center, his lack of shooting isn't a problem.

This problem is kind of annoying because we would've been in GREAT shape if we got our free agent targets during the offseason. Imagine this same roster with Ibaka + Batum/Crowder. The team would be perfect.
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Post#246 » by Prokorov » Mon Jan 25, 2021 4:08 pm

MGrand15 wrote:I would gladly take RHJ. He'd be playing spot minutes but if we can get him in lineups where Green is center, his lack of shooting isn't a problem.

This problem is kind of annoying because we would've been in GREAT shape if we got our free agent targets during the offseason. Imagine this same roster with Ibaka + Batum/Crowder. The team would be perfect.


I think RHJ would be fine even next to Jordan. You have 3 guys who can score at all 3 levels. that negates the need for 4 floor spacers. and DJ is a lob threat, so you cant completely ignore him.

Kyrie and KD are automatic from 8-10 feet. those are layups for those guys. a big slacking off RHJ to stop a layup traditionally works, but not vs our stars. all 3 have shown the ability to beat a double team or help also. I dont think spacing is a problem. it was part of why getting harden was such a game changer
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Post#247 » by Hello Brooklyn » Mon Jan 25, 2021 4:11 pm

I'm all in on Mcgee.

He can give us 20 minutes of rebounding and interior defense, something we desperately need.

Having no backup Center is no longer a viable option.

I also think Perry is far better suited to play spot up minutes at the 4.

I don't see anyone on the market as good as Mcgee. If Drummond becomes available then obviously you do it.

But the Cavs look like playoff contenders and I think will keep him.

RHJ looks like a good option, but not sure why Marks hasn't given him a 10 day yet at least. We seem uninterested.
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Post#248 » by Prokorov » Mon Jan 25, 2021 4:15 pm

Hello Brooklyn wrote:I'm all in on Mcgee.

He can give us 20 minutes of rebounding and interior defense, something we desperately need.

Having no backup Center is no longer a viable option.

I also think Perry is far better suited to play spot up minutes at the 4.

I don't see anyone on the market as good as Mcgee. If Drummond becomes available then obviously you do it.

But the Cavs look like playoff contenders and I think will keep him.

RHJ looks like a good option, but not sure why Marks hasn't given him a 10 day yet at least. We seem uninterested.


McGee also gives you offensive rebounding. which we get none of now.

I dont think there is urgency to get it done before the 30th deadline to fill 2 of the 3 spots. you have 7 days to get it right. instead of rushing, do your due dilligence and get the right guy. maybe they are back and forth on RHJ vs. MKG. maybe their staff is going over medicals. these guys also have been jobless, so looking into what shape their in, what their commitment to basketball is, etc. all things that are worth investing time is vs. making sure they play 2-3 extra games by doing it now

it sounds like for mcgee they are in trade talks. so those negotiations can go back and forth
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Post#249 » by Claud » Mon Jan 25, 2021 4:32 pm

If we can sign McGee it's a no brainer. He's exactly the type of player we need with this roster.

Curious to see what the new guy Pelle has to offer + Clax might get a shot afterall(Thought his season was done.)
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Post#250 » by Prokorov » Mon Jan 25, 2021 4:33 pm

Claud wrote:If we can sign McGee it's a no brainer. He's exactly the type of player we need with this roster.

Curious to see what the new guy Pelle has to offer + Clax might get a shot afterall(Thought his season was done.)


Yea, Pelle still not signed. not sure if it fell through or pending something, but that wasnt official.
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Post#251 » by Claud » Mon Jan 25, 2021 4:37 pm

Hello Brooklyn wrote:I'm all in on Mcgee.

He can give us 20 minutes of rebounding and interior defense, something we desperately need.

Having no backup Center is no longer a viable option.

I also think Perry is far better suited to play spot up minutes at the 4.

I don't see anyone on the market as good as Mcgee. If Drummond becomes available then obviously you do it.

But the Cavs look like playoff contenders and I think will keep him.

RHJ looks like a good option, but not sure why Marks hasn't given him a 10 day yet at least. We seem uninterested.



I had hope Perry would meet the moment and be good enough to be part of the rotation but it's painfully obvious he is NOT ready.

Marks + others had hyped Perry a bit so I was excited to see what the kid had but so far he has not impressed.

Claxton has shown more defensively + offensively already. Perry to LI Nets.

The reason they might not want RHJ is because his shot is broken. He's a great dude + hustle player but his skills haven't improved since his rookie year. Not to mention they are more than likely looking for a "3 and D" forward.
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Post#252 » by MGrand15 » Mon Jan 25, 2021 4:58 pm

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MGrand15 wrote:I would gladly take RHJ. He'd be playing spot minutes but if we can get him in lineups where Green is center, his lack of shooting isn't a problem.

This problem is kind of annoying because we would've been in GREAT shape if we got our free agent targets during the offseason. Imagine this same roster with Ibaka + Batum/Crowder. The team would be perfect.


I think RHJ would be fine even next to Jordan. You have 3 guys who can score at all 3 levels. that negates the need for 4 floor spacers. and DJ is a lob threat, so you cant completely ignore him.

Kyrie and KD are automatic from 8-10 feet. those are layups for those guys. a big slacking off RHJ to stop a layup traditionally works, but not vs our stars. all 3 have shown the ability to beat a double team or help also. I dont think spacing is a problem. it was part of why getting harden was such a game changer


It's not a huge problem obviously but you've seen how teams are starting to zone us. Playing two non-shooters makes life more difficult. Either way, since he's just a bench guy, he won't see many minutes with the starters like that. We're talking about a 10 MPG type guy here who can guard 3/4s and hustle.
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Post#253 » by Paradise » Mon Jan 25, 2021 5:04 pm

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Claud wrote:If we can sign McGee it's a no brainer. He's exactly the type of player we need with this roster.

Curious to see what the new guy Pelle has to offer + Clax might get a shot afterall(Thought his season was done.)


Yea, Pelle still not signed. not sure if it fell through or pending something, but that wasnt official.

I think he has to quarantine before a physical.
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Post#254 » by Prokorov » Mon Jan 25, 2021 5:05 pm

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Hello Brooklyn wrote:I'm all in on Mcgee.

He can give us 20 minutes of rebounding and interior defense, something we desperately need.

Having no backup Center is no longer a viable option.

I also think Perry is far better suited to play spot up minutes at the 4.

I don't see anyone on the market as good as Mcgee. If Drummond becomes available then obviously you do it.

But the Cavs look like playoff contenders and I think will keep him.

RHJ looks like a good option, but not sure why Marks hasn't given him a 10 day yet at least. We seem uninterested.



I had hope Perry would meet the moment and be good enough to be part of the rotation but it's painfully obvious he is NOT ready.

Marks + others had hyped Perry a bit so I was excited to see what the kid had but so far he has not impressed.

Claxton has shown more defensively + offensively already. Perry to LI Nets.

The reason they might not want RHJ is because his shot is broken. He's a great dude + hustle player but his skills haven't improved since his rookie year. Not to mention they are more than likely looking for a "3 and D" forward.


I dont think we are looking for 3 + D. i think we are just looking for D, We have plenty of 3. Most teams strive to put 3 elite shooters on the floor. i dont really think we will have any offensive issues even if playing RHJ/Mcgee or RHJ/Brown together. too much elite offense on the floor. Zone may throw us off at times, but you can adjust to get teams out of zone if it happens.

As far as Perry... every GM/Coach hype every rookie every year. Perry is like the 50th overall pick. he was never going to have a place on this team. same is probably true for claxton
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Post#255 » by Brooklyn91 » Mon Jan 25, 2021 5:14 pm

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Post#256 » by Hello Brooklyn » Mon Jan 25, 2021 5:17 pm

LOL why would we want Kevin Love? The defense can't take it.
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Post#257 » by Openheimer » Mon Jan 25, 2021 5:17 pm

Kevin love?
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Post#258 » by Openheimer » Mon Jan 25, 2021 5:19 pm

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Hello Brooklyn wrote:LOL why would we want Kevin Love? The defense can't take it.

How does the salaries even work? The DPE for Dinwiddie is only 5.6 million ? Marks has a huge TPE exception to make the salaries work? Kyrie involved?
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Post#259 » by Prokorov » Mon Jan 25, 2021 5:21 pm

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whooooa. Kevin Love? that is insane. im not sure how that works, given he makes 28 million.

dinwiddie + Shamet + Johnson = 15 million.

Would need to be that Trio plus Jordan OR Harris. i could see it being either since love is such an elite shooter. he hasnt played really this year, but is coming off a 17/10 year where he shot 38% from deep on 7 attempts per game. adding Love/McGee certainly makes all rebounding issues disappear without sacraficing spacing. D probably gets marginally better. i can image love is much worse then joe harris and Mcgee is probably an upgrade to deandre on D and certainly to perry if jordan is retained

Kyrie | Harden | Durant | Love | McGee

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Post#260 » by Hello Brooklyn » Mon Jan 25, 2021 5:21 pm

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Hello Brooklyn wrote:LOL why would we want Kevin Love? The defense can't take it.

How does the salaries even work? The DPE for Dinwiddie is only 5.6 million ? Marks has a huge TPE exception to make the salaries work? Kyrie involved?


Seems very difficult to work salary wise. I don't think this is being seriously discussed.

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