Andrew Wiggins one of Warriors' 'core four' players, Bob Myers says

[ILOVEIT]

Maybe Kerr should have Wiggins run the offense more....he's show some very good drive and kick skills. Takes the pressure off Curry. He can see over the top of the defense.

[FNQ]

Maybe Kerr should have Wiggins run the offense more....he's show some very good drive and kick skills. Takes the pressure off Curry. He can see over the top of the defense.

Cant do it for too often because Wiggins' handles are diaper-in-the-sun quality

[TB]

Before the year started we all basically said that the 2 main realistic things we wanted from Wiggins was effort on defense and having a good shooting year from 3.

To dive a little deeper into those topics, I was hoping to see a few things happen, and so far Wiggins is nailing each bullet point:

Offense:
- TS% increase from shooting 35% or better from 3 (yup, he's at 40%, shooting it great)
- TS% increase from lowering the frequency of 2 point jumpers. (yup, his frequency of 2 point jumpers dropped from 30-40% of his 2s to 20% of his 2s. He's still shooting them under 40%, which is why he need to stay away from them outside of late clock isos that have to go up. So far he's doing this.)

Defense:
- 2 STOCKS per game (yup, right at 2. Getting blocks like crazy to make up for a surprisingly low steal rate. But either way he's active on defense and causing disruption.)

I think we are all happy with what Wiggins is providing, so hopefully he keeps this up. And maybe, just maybe another wing on this team will start hitting their potential....

[cpower]

Wiggins is always better when he has a bigger role.
Trust me you will not get a worse version of Wiggins if he gets more touches.
The reason why he plays good as a spot up shooter this year is because he had 8 months in offseason to work his shooting.
But his strength was always attacking the basket and you get a better player if you give him the ball more and put him into position to create offense. Give him some screens at the top, you will see an attacking Wiggins then scoring and passing to open players.
He has become a better shooter this year, he can play in a higher level, just give him the bigger role

Wiggins has been showing worse efficiency when he is going iso. This is the first season he has ever cracked the league avg efficiency, let him keep the role and we will be fine when Klay is back. He is not a good finisher around the basket so i am not sure why you want him to keep attacking, his efficiency is coming from amazing 3% percentage ..

He is a good finisher around the basket but this year he started bad for some reason around the basket.
Ok, the next year maybe things will be better if Thompson comes back healthy and in a good condition. But what about this year?

this year does not matter, we have like 5 playable guys and we are not beating anyone in PS. We want him to be able to understand the system and play as 3rd option which he does great now. I am actually really looking forward to next seaon given we figure out a way to sort out our center issue.

[vagelis]

Wiggins is a better offensive player than Warriors fans think.
Nice game today

[michaelm]

Wiggins is a better offensive player than Warriors fans think.
Nice game today

Most on this board are very positive about Wiggins, few more so than I am.

I think he will be even better offensively with more experience with the GSW system/Curry and next to Klay Thompson even apart from anything else. He has defended several of the elite players of the NBA rather well thus far this season, so if people are complimenting him on his defensive play that is hardly a bad thing I wouldn't have thought.

[vagelis]

Wiggins is a better offensive player than Warriors fans think.
Nice game today

Most on this board are very positive about Wiggins, few more so than I am.

I think he will be even better offensively with more experience with the GSW system/Curry and next to Klay Thompson even apart from anything else. He has defended several of the elite players of the NBA rather well thus far this season, so if people are complimenting him on his defensive play that is hardly a bad thing I wouldn't have thought.

Yes, Warriors fans have a positive opinion about Wiggins but they have not seen him having a big game yet.
He is far more than a role player or a third option in offense.
He was more involved in this game and Warriors won again.
49 touches of the ball comparing to 27 touches the last 2 games. He averaged 65 tpg the last year.
If he gets the ball more he will score more and his assist numbers will increase. Warriors need a second big scorer next to Curry and Wiggins can be this player for the Warriors

[michaelm]

Wiggins is a better offensive player than Warriors fans think.
Nice game today

Most on this board are very positive about Wiggins, few more so than I am.

I think he will be even better offensively with more experience with the GSW system/Curry and next to Klay Thompson even apart from anything else. He has defended several of the elite players of the NBA rather well thus far this season, so if people are complimenting him on his defensive play that is hardly a bad thing I wouldn't have thought.

Yes, Warriors fans have a positive opinion about Wiggins but they have not seen him having a big game yet.
He is far more than a role player or a third option in offense.
He was more involved in this game and Warriors won again.
49 touches of the ball comparing to 27 touches the last 2 games. He averaged 65 tpg the last year.
If he gets the ball more he will score more and his assist numbers will increase. Warriors need a second big scorer next to Curry and Wiggins can be this player for the Warriors

If you look at recent interviews the guy appears rather happy in his work. I am sure the GSW coaching staff and his team-mates will continue to work with him to both maximise his game and his benefit to the team. Even Curry is happy to defer to whichever player has the best scoring opportunity/set up that player for the best scoring opportunity when it is all humming.

[ILOVEIT]

Maybe Kerr should have Wiggins run the offense more....he's show some very good drive and kick skills. Takes the pressure off Curry. He can see over the top of the defense.

Cant do it for too often because Wiggins' handles are diaper-in-the-sun quality

LOL

Yeah....can't be a steady diet of that for sure. Maybe 6-8 possessions a game.

[ILOVEIT]

Wiggins is a better offensive player than Warriors fans think.
Nice game today

It's a question of efficiency. Wiggins has proven he can go off for 40. No doubt.

But this goes back to "is a high scoring player on a bad team really a great player?" We watched Jason Richardson average 23 points...have big nights...while the Warriors were going 21-59 season after season. The truth was, JR wasn't that great. SOMEBODY has to score. Heck...Antawn Jamision had back to back 50 point nights...but he sucked defensively and couldn't dribble worth crap.

Case in point....last night one of the Wolves players got 30. But he's not that great long term.

I'm way pro Wiggins btw. I have thought from the beginning of the trade he was the perfect SF for this team.

Anyway....let's see if Wiggins can continue being efficient....and I bet you he starts having bigger and bigger scorning nights with the same amount of shots. Confidence is a big deal...and I think he's getting up there.

[FNQ]

Wiggins is a better offensive player than Warriors fans think.
Nice game today

Most on this board are very positive about Wiggins, few more so than I am.

I think he will be even better offensively with more experience with the GSW system/Curry and next to Klay Thompson even apart from anything else. He has defended several of the elite players of the NBA rather well thus far this season, so if people are complimenting him on his defensive play that is hardly a bad thing I wouldn't have thought.

Yes, Warriors fans have a positive opinion about Wiggins but they have not seen him having a big game yet.
He is far more than a role player or a third option in offense.
He was more involved in this game and Warriors won again.
49 touches of the ball comparing to 27 touches the last 2 games. He averaged 65 tpg the last year.
If he gets the ball more he will score more and his assist numbers will increase. Warriors need a second big scorer next to Curry and Wiggins can be this player for the Warriors

This is where you lose me. I dont think he is, or can be, a consistent top 2 option. At least a couple times a game he's chucking up a contested, poor shot, where the ball clangs off the side of the rim and really doesnt have much of a prayer of going in. Sometimes he decides before he reads the defense, that he's going to shoot it. In short - he doesnt look the part of someone who will create a decent shot for himself if not in the rhythm of the offense.

The Wiggins we see now? I don't know how much better he gets than this. Maybe he improves his %s a bit, maybe he stops hesitating as much when with the starters.. minor stuff. But I think we're seeing his final form for the most part - which is still a pretty good NBA player. But where does the improvement really come from at this point? Adding touches wont necessarily add scores or maintain his efficiency..

[CS707]

I like Chriss's point last night about knowing/accepting his role and it seems to have rubbed off on Wiggins. This is probably the best case scenario for him... he's set for life financially but in a position where expectations meet his likely upside. I imagine he's having the time of his life right now.

[vagelis]

Yes, Warriors fans have a positive and his assist numbers will increase.
This is where you lose me. I dont think he is, or can be, a consistent top 2 option. At least a couple times a game he's chucking up a contested, poor shot, where the ball clangs off the side of the rim and really doesnt have much of a prayer of going in. Sometimes he decides before he reads the defense, that he's going to shoot it. In short - he doesnt look the part of someone who will create a decent shot for himself if not in the rhythm of the offense.

The Wiggins we see now? I don't know how much better he gets than this. Maybe he improves his %s a bit, maybe he stops hesitating as much when with the starters.. minor stuff. But I think we're seeing his final form for the most part - which is still a pretty good NBA player. But where does the improvement really come from at this point? Adding touches wont necessarily add scores or maintain his efficiency..

Because I have watched him the years he played for the Wolves, his main asset is exactly that, to create his own shot and to drive to the rim. .
His best year so far was the last season with the Wolves when Saunders made him a point forward and gave him a lot of touches.
His worst years were when Thibs played him off ball and played a lesser role.
His efficiency this year is because he improved his 3pt shooting not because of the decreased role.
As more you ask him to do and as higher is the competition he steps up.

[michaelm]

Yes, Warriors fans have a positive and his assist numbers will increase.
This is where you lose me. I dont think he is, or can be, a consistent top 2 option. At least a couple times a game he's chucking up a contested, poor shot, where the ball clangs off the side of the rim and really doesnt have much of a prayer of going in. Sometimes he decides before he reads the defense, that he's going to shoot it. In short - he doesnt look the part of someone who will create a decent shot for himself if not in the rhythm of the offense.

The Wiggins we see now? I don't know how much better he gets than this. Maybe he improves his %s a bit, maybe he stops hesitating as much when with the starters.. minor stuff. But I think we're seeing his final form for the most part - which is still a pretty good NBA player. But where does the improvement really come from at this point? Adding touches wont necessarily add scores or maintain his efficiency..

Because I have watched him the years he played for the Wolves, his main asset is exactly that, to create his own shot and to drive to the rim. .
His best year so far was the last season with the Wolves when Taylor made him a point forward and gave him a lot of touches.
His worst years were when Thibs played him off ball and played a lesser role.
His efficiency this year is because he improved his 3pt shooting not because of the decreased role.
As more you ask him to do and as higher is the competition he steps up.

That isn’t the point, which is how he can contribute best to the team winning, which is the culture of GSW which he seems to have bought into, and also appears happy to have done. The team winning more wouldn’t necessarily be the result of him having more touches if he was more inefficient with those touches, which he has some history of being with long mid range shots. As someone said he should only take such shots if this is the best option remaining for the team near the end of the shot clock. If he can score more by other means I am sure the coaches and players will be very happy for him to do so. Being eventually a highly elite defensive presence and the 3rd best scorer on a title winning team which contains Steph Curry and Klay Thompson which is my hope for him currently which might become an expectation if Klay returns as something like his former self is hardly a small thing imo however. If changing their offensive scheme to give more touches to Ender would make GSW a title contender this year I would be in favour, but both I and more importantly the coaching staff don’t currently see things that that way I believe; we both may be wrong of course.

[Mylie10]

If Klay comes back playing like Klay, then Wiggins role will be beyond perfect for him. And then you can load manage other guys and know that at least Wiggins has been a number one option in the past. And while no one would ever want him in that role again, being a third option to Steph and Klay is a role Made In Heaven.

[Outside]

All I can say is thank you, Minnesota.

[Crazy-Canuck]

Im starting to wonder if wiggins was the play along.

Lose KD.
Went after Dlo knowing:
A) They see the monster hole at SG/SF and know getting a good one is too expensive, but a reclaimation isnt. They talk to Thibbs. They target wiggins.
B) they didnt want dlo but needed the salary ballast
C) they know minny was desperate for dlo and they just hired a green gm in rosas
D) curry, dray, klay are basically sitting a year so they can wait for rosas to overpay because in the end they could still 1 for 1 at any time.


Yes, im bored.

[ILOVEIT]

Right now Wiggins is establishing some credibility.

All it will take....is ONE monster 40 point game and he'll be in the all-star conversation.

Warriors go into the "break" at 6 games over 500....Wiggins has a couple of 30 + games....he would be considered.

[xdrta+]

Right now Wiggins is establishing some credibility.

All it will take....is ONE monster 40 point game and he'll be in the all-star conversation.

Warriors go into the "break" at 6 games over 500....Wiggins has a couple of 30 + games....he would be considered.

I'd say too much competition in the West. But personally, I don't care about all-star, I just want him to keep doing what he's been doing for another 50+ games.

[sonnyhill]

Put Wiggins in situations where he can flourish and he will look good:

Positives:
He may be the best low-block/back-to-the-basket offensive player (especially when he has a smaller player guarding him) on the team;
When in rhythm, Wiggins is lethal from the three point line;
His help-side defense and ability to recover on defense is as good or better than anyone on the current roster.

Negatives:
Too often, we see Wiggins driving to the basket (which is good), but come away both without points and without drawing a foul);
Does not box out nor fight strongly for rebounds.