Jays sign Marcus Semien - 1yr/$18m

s e n s i · Post #1 » by **s e n s i** » Tue Jan 26, 2021 11:46 pm

https://www.sportsnet.ca/mlb/article/blue-jays-marcus-semien-agree-one-year-18m-contract/

Randle McMurphy · Post #2 » by **Randle McMurphy** » Tue Jan 26, 2021 11:53 pm

That amnesty clause/Bautista comment still never fails to make me laugh.

But yes, it's all happening.

Ado05 · Post #3 » by **Ado05** » Tue Jan 26, 2021 11:56 pm

Nice deal.

Only one year. Minimal risk. High reward. Gives positional versatility. Not much to dislike about this.

polo007 · Post #4 » by **polo007** » Wed Jan 27, 2021 12:00 am

Read on Twitter

Brinbe · Post #5 » by **Brinbe** » Wed Jan 27, 2021 12:14 am

can't complain about robbers not spending.

still need pitching

Post #6 » by **Cyrus** » Wed Jan 27, 2021 12:19 am

What do we feel about this signing, are we glad it was 1 year deal, or would we been better with a 2 year deal at 35- 36 mill?

Randle McMurphy · Post #7 » by **Randle McMurphy** » Wed Jan 27, 2021 12:21 am

Cyrus wrote:What do we feel about this signing, are we glad it was 1 year deal, or would we been better with a 2 year deal at 35- 36 mill?

Semien's choice I'm sure. I bet he wouldn't have done a 2 year deal. He likely wants to prove he's the guy from 2019.

Post #8 » by **Cyrus** » Wed Jan 27, 2021 12:23 am

Randle McMurphy wrote:
Cyrus wrote:What do we feel about this signing, are we glad it was 1 year deal, or would we been better with a 2 year deal at 35- 36 mill?

Semien's choice I'm sure. I bet he wouldn't have done a 2 year deal. He likely wants to prove he's the guy from 2019.

Makes sense, another bet on yourself candidate, but is it an overpay for 1 year considering his 2020 year...

bluerap23 · Post #9 » by **bluerap23** » Wed Jan 27, 2021 12:32 am

Cyrus wrote:
Randle McMurphy wrote:
Cyrus wrote:What do we feel about this signing, are we glad it was 1 year deal, or would we been better with a 2 year deal at 35- 36 mill?

Semien's choice I'm sure. I bet he wouldn't have done a 2 year deal. He likely wants to prove he's the guy from 2019.

Makes sense, another bet on yourself candidate, but is it an overpay for 1 year considering his 2020 year...

I love these deals where the player has all kinds of incentive to ball out.
We don't need him long-term because of Groshans and Martin.

polo007 · Post #10 » by **polo007** » Wed Jan 27, 2021 12:40 am

What impact will Marcus Semien have for the Blue Jays? - Sportsnet.ca

2:04 | January 26, 2021

Toronto Blue Jays insider Shi Davidi discusses the impact Marcus Semien will have on Toronto’s lineup next season. Plus, Shi gives his insights on the 2021 Baseball Hall Of Fame ballot results.

wamco · Post #11 » by **wamco** » Wed Jan 27, 2021 12:49 am

Could end up a 2/36 year deal if we slap a QO on him if he rebounds

Lateral Quicks · Post #12 » by **Lateral Quicks** » Wed Jan 27, 2021 12:54 am

Was not expecting this. Wow.

We needed an above-average infield defender, and we got one. Except this one put up an 8.9 WAR season just two season's ago. Bo will need to demonstrate improved defense if he wants to stay at SS.

With Semien at 2B to start, I guess that pushes Biggio to 3B, Vlad to 1B, and Tellez to the bench/DH. It looks like Tellez will draw the short straw and struggle to get regular at-bats.

Springer
Bichette
Guerrero
Hernandez
Biggio
Gurriel
Semien
Tellez
Kirk

If Semien hits at all like he did in 2019, that lineup just went from potentially obscene to potentially devastating.

I just hope we have enough money in the tank for pitching help. I sense a trade or two coming.

Post #13 » by **Schad** » Wed Jan 27, 2021 1:04 am

Randle McMurphy wrote:
Cyrus wrote:What do we feel about this signing, are we glad it was 1 year deal, or would we been better with a 2 year deal at 35- 36 mill?

Semien's choice I'm sure. I bet he wouldn't have done a 2 year deal. He likely wants to prove he's the guy from 2019.

And in a market where most teams aren't spending big, a one-year bridge even to a contract where he gets a similar AAV over 3 years makes more sense than a two-year deal.

This is great value. Even if his 2019 offense is a mirage (and it likely is), he's a very good defensive middle infielder who has posted 4.9 fWAR/650 over the past three seasons, signed to a no-risk one-year deal. He's also QO-eligible as the A's didn't apply the tag to him, so if he performs we have the option of tagging him and either retaining him for similar money, and recouping a bit of draft capital if he departs.

Post #14 » by **Schad** » Wed Jan 27, 2021 1:06 am

Cyrus wrote:Makes sense, another bet on yourself candidate, but is it an overpay for 1 year considering his 2020 year...

It's actually good value for his 2020 season, even. His 2020, if applied to a 650 PA season, was worth about 3.3 fWAR. $18m for 3.3 fWAR is pretty darned solid, especially without any attached risk.

Post #15 » by **JaysRule15** » Wed Jan 27, 2021 1:10 am

Yea, a lot to like about this. One year thing doesn't hurt us at all, since we have some prospects on the way. Even if he doesn't put up his 2019 stats, he's still gonna provide more value to the infield than the likes of Drury and Shaw lol.

Our lineup is looking so nice. Just need a solid starting pitcher and we're set.

SharoneWright · Post #16 » by **SharoneWright** » Wed Jan 27, 2021 1:20 am

If our manager has any skill, there should be enough at-bats to go around. We have 5 infielders for 4 positions. That’s 80% playing time for everybody. If you give Rowdy 60% playing time, everybody else moves up to about 85%. And that doesn’t include time at the DH for either Rowdy or Vlad.

TR50 · Post #17 » by **TR50** » Wed Jan 27, 2021 1:27 am

Schad wrote:
Randle McMurphy wrote:
Cyrus wrote:What do we feel about this signing, are we glad it was 1 year deal, or would we been better with a 2 year deal at 35- 36 mill?

Semien's choice I'm sure. I bet he wouldn't have done a 2 year deal. He likely wants to prove he's the guy from 2019.

And in a market where most teams aren't spending big, a one-year bridge even to a contract where he gets a similar AAV over 3 years makes more sense than a two-year deal.

This is great value. Even if his 2019 offense is a mirage (and it likely is), he's a very good defensive middle infielder who has posted 4.9 fWAR/650 over the past three seasons, signed to a no-risk one-year deal. He's also QO-eligible as the A's didn't apply the tag to him, so if he performs we have the option of tagging him and either retaining him for similar money, and recouping a bit of draft capital if he departs.

The fact that we can slap that QO on him next year makes this even more amazing. I absolutely love this move.

Post #18 » by **spykelee** » Wed Jan 27, 2021 1:29 am

Great addition, much like springer this is a perfect add. Positional versatility, bounce back candidate and I never really have an issue with a one year deal for anyone. Last up is filling in that rotation.. Im excited for this season! Hopefully get the jays back in Toronto and fans in the stadium. Would feel kinda hollow to have a great year in front of mostly empty stadiums

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TR50 · Post #19 » by **TR50** » Wed Jan 27, 2021 1:30 am

SharoneWright wrote:If our manager has any skill, there should be enough at-bats to go around. We have 5 infielders for 4 positions. That’s 80% playing time for everybody. If you give Rowdy 60% playing time, everybody else moves up to about 85%. And that doesn’t include time at the DH for either Rowdy or Vlad.

I have very minimal faith in Charlie Montoyo, but I feel like he is decent at managing people.

Also, the fact that we have given him so many toys to play with offensively, not sure he can really make a mistake. Though maybe I am being naive and he will prove me wrong when Danny Jansen ends up the leadoff hitter during game 65-145.

SharoneWright · Post #20 » by **SharoneWright** » Wed Jan 27, 2021 1:33 am

TR50 wrote:
SharoneWright wrote:If our manager has any skill, there should be enough at-bats to go around. We have 5 infielders for 4 positions. That’s 80% playing time for everybody. If you give Rowdy 60% playing time, everybody else moves up to about 85%. And that doesn’t include time at the DH for either Rowdy or Vlad.

I have very minimal faith in Charlie Montoyo, but I feel like he is decent at managing people.

Also, the fact that we have given him so many toys to play with offensively, not sure he can really make a mistake. Though maybe I am being naive and he will prove me wrong when Danny Jansen ends up the leadoff hitter during game 65-145.

I thought about making this point. It seems like Shatkins has done their very best to idiot-proof this lineup. Not sure how Charlie can screw this up. We will have to monitor the situation LOL