Way too early NBA draft thread 2021

[Chi town]

Maybe. I question Cade’s athleticism and first step.

Not saying he is just as good as him, but this is pretty much exactly the same thing people said to justify taking some big man over Luka Doncic…

I’d never take a big man over a wing.

Putting Cade and Luka in the same sentence is criminal.

[TheSuzerain]

Maybe. I question Cade’s athleticism and first step.

Not saying he is just as good as him, but this is pretty much exactly the same thing people said to justify taking some big man over Luka Doncic…

Most of the wing initiators don't rely on 1st step. Jimmy Butler and Kawhi might be the only exceptions.

Luka, Harden, LeBron rely on craft/angles/strength more than anything.

[Leslie Forman]

Maybe. I question Cade’s athleticism and first step.

Not saying he is just as good as him, but this is pretty much exactly the same thing people said to justify taking some big man over Luka Doncic…

I’d never take a big man over a wing.

Putting Cade and Luka in the same sentence is criminal.

And people thought putting Luka in the same sentence as Magic/Larry was criminal

Just seems real presumptive IMO to limit a guy's ceiling on "first step" when we can see that agility, strength, skill, IQ, is more important, and Cunningham seems to have plenty of that stuff. It's not like he's Doug McDermott.

[TheSuzerain]

If Cade is legitimately 6'7" with a 7-foot wingspan (and I think we have verified measurements that he has), I don't see how he's not #1.

[Chi town]

Not saying he is just as good as him, but this is pretty much exactly the same thing people said to justify taking some big man over Luka Doncic…

I’d never take a big man over a wing.

Putting Cade and Luka in the same sentence is criminal.

And people thought putting Luka in the same sentence as Magic/Larry was criminal

Just seems real presumptive IMO to limit a guy's ceiling on "first step" when we can see that agility, strength, skill, IQ, is more important, and Cunningham seems to have plenty of that stuff. It's not like he's Doug McDermott.

First step is an issue when you don’t have a frame and body like Jimmy and Luka.

[No-Man]

The issue for Chicago is who do you really like if you end up 6-10, it's pretty rough, guess you roll with another versatile wing like Moody or Keon Johnson, the upsidey guys in that range for me are bigs who are likely going later if they actually declare anyway

This team needs to tank for Cade/Suggs badly

[Leslie Forman]

First step is an issue when you don’t have a frame and body like Jimmy and Luka.

Some more trips to the buffet and I'm sure Cade can absolutely have a body like Luka's…

[TheSuzerain]

The issue for Chicago is who do you really like if you end up 6-10, it's pretty rough, guess you roll with another versatile wing like Moody or Keon Johnson, the upsidey guys in that range for me are bigs who are likely going later if they actually declare anyway

This team needs to tank for Cade/Suggs badly

Yeah I agree.

If you're 6-10, I think you settle for Keon/Moody/Wagner.

[AshyLarrysDiaper]

Not saying he is just as good as him, but this is pretty much exactly the same thing people said to justify taking some big man over Luka Doncic…

I’d never take a big man over a wing.

Putting Cade and Luka in the same sentence is criminal.

And people thought putting Luka in the same sentence as Magic/Larry was criminal

Just seems real presumptive IMO to limit a guy's ceiling on "first step" when we can see that agility, strength, skill, IQ, is more important, and Cunningham seems to have plenty of that stuff. It's not like he's Doug McDermott.

Definitely don't need an elite first step. I do think you need a game-breaking attribute, though. Strength + craft in Luka's case. Shooting + feel in Steph's. Not sure that's surfaced with Cade in college yet, at least not to the level that was billed. For me, the eye test and stat profile (57 TS%, 21 PER, good but not great on/off) leave something to be desired.

His presumptive #1 status is built on prep play and archetype, which are both plenty meaningful, but at some point he's got to dominate at OSU, right?

[AshyLarrysDiaper]

The issue for Chicago is who do you really like if you end up 6-10, it's pretty rough, guess you roll with another versatile wing like Moody or Keon Johnson, the upsidey guys in that range for me are bigs who are likely going later if they actually declare anyway

This team needs to tank for Cade/Suggs badly

Yeah I agree.

If you're 6-10, I think you settle for Keon/Moody/Wagner.

I would add Jaden Springer to that list.

[TheSuzerain]

The issue for Chicago is who do you really like if you end up 6-10, it's pretty rough, guess you roll with another versatile wing like Moody or Keon Johnson, the upsidey guys in that range for me are bigs who are likely going later if they actually declare anyway

This team needs to tank for Cade/Suggs badly

Yeah I agree.

If you're 6-10, I think you settle for Keon/Moody/Wagner.

I would add Jaden Springer to that list.

Springer seems pretty good. I kind of think his upside case is a bit nebulous though.

[No-Man]

Yeah I don't see the super high end with Springer, although Wagner is probably the same in that sense although at least he has the super shooting at 6-9

[StunnerKO]

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[JohnnyTapwater]

Loooooove how Cooper get's to the line - with more space in the NBA, what a terror he'll be.

[TheSuzerain]

Yeah no idea where Cooper goes in the draft. Feels like late lottery?

[StunnerKO]

Watch on YouTube

[Chi town]

Loooooove how Cooper get's to the line - with more space in the NBA, what a terror he'll be.

I see some Trae potential there we FTs. Downside is his D. Thinking he gets abused.

Could totally see him running an elite offense though. His playmaking is next level. He’s always in total control.

[Chi town]

Cooper has that elite flopping quality. On drawing charges and getting shooting fouls.

[CoreyVillains]

Cooper reminds me of Damon Stoudamire without the jumper. He's a lot of fun.

[Am2626]

Maybe. I question Cade’s athleticism and first step.

Not saying he is just as good as him, but this is pretty much exactly the same thing people said to justify taking some big man over Luka Doncic…

I’d never take a big man over a wing.

Putting Cade and Luka in the same sentence is criminal.

It may seem criminal now but the reality is Cade like any other future draft pick is an unknown. Before Luka was drafted people didn’t expect him to be this good now. It will be interesting to ask this question at this time next year to see how Cade is doing in the NBA as a rookie.