How would you fill out the roster?

[vincecarter4pres]

First thing, I'm not advocating the trade of Dinwiddie.

A lot of people assume he's gone this summer and a lot of people are counting him out for this season because of the injury. But I can see him thinking that as long as he gets his money and retains a clear role with big minutes, he will not care if he's a 6xth man and will not care if he's a 4th banana. And a handful of regular season tune-up games and then close to 100% Spence in the playoffs would be a major luxury, this season.

He's not going to take a discount to stay, but if he's a 32-35 minute per game 6xth man, who starts any time Kyrie, KD or Harden are down for rest, and still gets his true open market value, he's the type of guy Imho, who would value the chance at rings and contending over being a 2nd option on a solid team, or 1st option on a struggling team. Add to this, a re-signed Dinwiddie, even with a no trade clause, is a valuable asset for a team like this, with no 1st round picks and little in the form of tradeable youth.

Imho, it would be better to try and keep him for the long term, then it would to trade him, in most instances. He'll barely be 28 next year and can slide around 1-3 whenever needed and probably hasn't even hit his peak.



All that said, if he were traded by this deadline, the only trades I think I'd be OK, within reason for the other teams as well, would be the following(with guys like Claxton, Shemet and 2nd's added as needed, along with other salary like DJ):

To Orlando for Aaron Gordon

To Orlando for Terrence Ross and Khem Birch

To Sacramento for Harrison Barnes and Whiteside

To NOP for Steven Adams and Josh Hart

To CHI for Wendell Carter and Garrett Temple

To Toronto for Norman Powell and Baynes



As long as he's re-signing here, I'd prefer something like McGee and Gay, or McGee and Ariza and keep Dinwiddie to probably any of the above though. It's about the long term, this team should contend for 3+ seasons, especially with a healthy Spence and ring chaser signings for the future and he's a better trade chip then any of the above if he's locked up for 3 or 4 years.

[Prokorov]

First thing, I'm not advocating the trade of Dinwiddie.

A lot of people assume he's gone this summer and a lot of people are counting him out for this season because of the injury. But I can see him thinking that as long as he gets his money and retains a clear role with big minutes, he will not care if he's a 6xth man and will not care if he's a 4th banana. And a handful of regular season tune-up games and then close to 100% Spence in the playoffs would be a major luxury, this season.

He's not going to take a discount to stay, but if he's a 32-35 minute per game 6xth man, who starts any time Kyrie, KD or Harden are down for rest, and still gets his true open market value, he's the type of guy Imho, who would value the chance at rings and contending over being a 2nd option on a solid team, or 1st option on a struggling team. Add to this, a re-signed Dinwiddie, even with a no trade clause, is a valuable asset for a team like this, with no 1st round picks and little in the form of tradeable youth.

Imho, it would be better to try and keep him for the long term, then it would to trade him, in most instances. He'll barely be 28 next year and can slide around 1-3 whenever needed and probably hasn't even hit his peak.



All that said, if he were traded by this deadline, the only trades I think I'd be OK, within reason for the other teams as well, would be the following(with guys like Claxton, Shemet and 2nd's added as needed, along with other salary like DJ):

To Orlando for Aaron Gordon

To Orlando for Terrence Ross and Khem Birch

To Sacramento for Harrison Barnes and Whiteside

To NOP for Steven Adams and Josh Hart

To CHI for Wendell Carter and Garrett Temple

To Toronto for Norman Powell and Baynes



As long as he's re-signing here, I'd prefer something like McGee and Gay, or McGee and Ariza and keep Dinwiddie to probably any of the above though. It's about the long term, this team should contend for 3+ seasons, especially with a healthy Spence and ring chaser signings for the future and he's a better trade chip then any of the above if he's locked up for 3 or 4 years.

Norm Powell is the guy.

Thats the get. thats the glue. thats our marcus smart.

Championship player. dirt dog. defender, shooter, athletic, not scared of big moments. fits seemlessly into the starting lineup. gives you browns defense with 38-40% three point shooting.

I would even consider giving up Harris for that if toronto added value. I dont think there is a better fit then powell as far as non bigs go

being able to get baynes too max toronto an ideal trade partner. size/toughness with Baynes and he stretches the floor

Dinwiddie/Claxton/Shamet/multiple seconds, perry, TLC if needed for powell/Baynes is a grand slam

Harden | Kyrie | Powell | KD | Jordan

Johnson | Harris |Green | Baynes | [ONE of the big 3]

thats a championship roster

[Hello Brooklyn]

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If Love is available for free you have to do it.

Bring him in as a 6th man with Harden as a stretch 4.

[Paradise]

Kevin Love on a buyout deal? Now, that’s a different conversation.

[Prokorov]

That would be an absolute STEAL. Love is a great fit. rebounding, floor spacing.

[TheNetsFan]

A Love buyout is hard to fathom. He'd have to be willing to give up a lot to make it worthwhile for Cleveland. Like full MLE plus. Is he willing to give up about 40% of his remaining salary? One would think he could get at least the full MLE on the open market next year. We can offer the taxpayer MLE for this year with a player option for next year to give him a little extra security.

[Hello Brooklyn]

I'm worried he just goes to the Lakers instead. We know hes friends with LeBron and is from LA.

[DarkXaero]

This Jason Dumas guy doesn't know ****, he seems to be in Scoop B tier of "reporters".

[Prokorov]

In either event, multiple sources have us in on mcgee, which seems like no brainer

if we can somehow land Mcgee and trade for powel + sign RHJ we will be insane

[vincecarter4pres]

First thing, I'm not advocating the trade of Dinwiddie.

A lot of people assume he's gone this summer and a lot of people are counting him out for this season because of the injury. But I can see him thinking that as long as he gets his money and retains a clear role with big minutes, he will not care if he's a 6xth man and will not care if he's a 4th banana. And a handful of regular season tune-up games and then close to 100% Spence in the playoffs would be a major luxury, this season.

He's not going to take a discount to stay, but if he's a 32-35 minute per game 6xth man, who starts any time Kyrie, KD or Harden are down for rest, and still gets his true open market value, he's the type of guy Imho, who would value the chance at rings and contending over being a 2nd option on a solid team, or 1st option on a struggling team. Add to this, a re-signed Dinwiddie, even with a no trade clause, is a valuable asset for a team like this, with no 1st round picks and little in the form of tradeable youth.

Imho, it would be better to try and keep him for the long term, then it would to trade him, in most instances. He'll barely be 28 next year and can slide around 1-3 whenever needed and probably hasn't even hit his peak.



All that said, if he were traded by this deadline, the only trades I think I'd be OK, within reason for the other teams as well, would be the following(with guys like Claxton, Shemet and 2nd's added as needed, along with other salary like DJ):

To Orlando for Aaron Gordon

To Orlando for Terrence Ross and Khem Birch

To Sacramento for Harrison Barnes and Whiteside

To NOP for Steven Adams and Josh Hart

To CHI for Wendell Carter and Garrett Temple

To Toronto for Norman Powell and Baynes



As long as he's re-signing here, I'd prefer something like McGee and Gay, or McGee and Ariza and keep Dinwiddie to probably any of the above though. It's about the long term, this team should contend for 3+ seasons, especially with a healthy Spence and ring chaser signings for the future and he's a better trade chip then any of the above if he's locked up for 3 or 4 years.

Norm Powell is the guy.

Thats the get. thats the glue. thats our marcus smart.

Championship player. dirt dog. defender, shooter, athletic, not scared of big moments. fits seemlessly into the starting lineup. gives you browns defense with 38-40% three point shooting.

I would even consider giving up Harris for that if toronto added value.I dont think there is a better fit then powell as far as non bigs go

being able to get baynes too max toronto an ideal trade partner. size/toughness with Baynes and he stretches the floor

Dinwiddie/Claxton/Shamet/multiple seconds, perry, TLC if needed for powell/Baynes is a grand slam

Harden | Kyrie | Powell | KD | Jordan

Johnson | Harris |Green | Baynes | [ONE of the big 3]

thats a championship roster

I was with you until the underlined/bold, this is just wild. Harris is an all time great shooter, at least average defender, above average finisher, moves without the ball, can put the ball on the floor, cuts, overall smart and fearless player, on a fair at worst contract in his prime.

You don't trade that for Powell, you add Powell to that. Besides adding their unprotected pick, I can't think of the sweetener Toronto could add and even that's an unknown. Plus Iirc, Powell has an opt out this summer and will no doubt flex it with such a weak free agent class.

At this point, Harris is pretty much legit untouchable to me. It would have to be an absolute whopper of an offer/player coming our way to deal him. We don't need another star and he's not worth that on paper anyway.

Like I'm thinking something centered around Myles Turner and Justin Holiday for him with some minor filler like Claxton and Shamet thrown in and I still give pause, though I don't think you can pass that up.

I love Powell. I talked about throwing a ridiculous overpay at him years back when he was a free agent, think he gets heavily underrated, if not rated at all by most fans, but I'm keeping the home grown Harris over him.

I would most likely trade Spence, Claxton, Shamet, every 2nd not nailed down for him and Baynes though.

[Prokorov]

First thing, I'm not advocating the trade of Dinwiddie.

A lot of people assume he's gone this summer and a lot of people are counting him out for this season because of the injury. But I can see him thinking that as long as he gets his money and retains a clear role with big minutes, he will not care if he's a 6xth man and will not care if he's a 4th banana. And a handful of regular season tune-up games and then close to 100% Spence in the playoffs would be a major luxury, this season.

He's not going to take a discount to stay, but if he's a 32-35 minute per game 6xth man, who starts any time Kyrie, KD or Harden are down for rest, and still gets his true open market value, he's the type of guy Imho, who would value the chance at rings and contending over being a 2nd option on a solid team, or 1st option on a struggling team. Add to this, a re-signed Dinwiddie, even with a no trade clause, is a valuable asset for a team like this, with no 1st round picks and little in the form of tradeable youth.

Imho, it would be better to try and keep him for the long term, then it would to trade him, in most instances. He'll barely be 28 next year and can slide around 1-3 whenever needed and probably hasn't even hit his peak.



All that said, if he were traded by this deadline, the only trades I think I'd be OK, within reason for the other teams as well, would be the following(with guys like Claxton, Shemet and 2nd's added as needed, along with other salary like DJ):

To Orlando for Aaron Gordon

To Orlando for Terrence Ross and Khem Birch

To Sacramento for Harrison Barnes and Whiteside

To NOP for Steven Adams and Josh Hart

To CHI for Wendell Carter and Garrett Temple

To Toronto for Norman Powell and Baynes



As long as he's re-signing here, I'd prefer something like McGee and Gay, or McGee and Ariza and keep Dinwiddie to probably any of the above though. It's about the long term, this team should contend for 3+ seasons, especially with a healthy Spence and ring chaser signings for the future and he's a better trade chip then any of the above if he's locked up for 3 or 4 years.

Norm Powell is the guy.

Thats the get. thats the glue. thats our marcus smart.

Championship player. dirt dog. defender, shooter, athletic, not scared of big moments. fits seemlessly into the starting lineup. gives you browns defense with 38-40% three point shooting.

I would even consider giving up Harris for that if toronto added value.I dont think there is a better fit then powell as far as non bigs go

being able to get baynes too max toronto an ideal trade partner. size/toughness with Baynes and he stretches the floor

Dinwiddie/Claxton/Shamet/multiple seconds, perry, TLC if needed for powell/Baynes is a grand slam

Harden | Kyrie | Powell | KD | Jordan

Johnson | Harris |Green | Baynes | [ONE of the big 3]

thats a championship roster

I was with you until the underlined/bold, this is just wild. Harris is an all time great shooter, at least average defender, above average finisher, moves without the ball, can put the ball on the floor, cuts, overall smart and fearless player, on a fair at worst contract in his prime.

You don't trade that for Powell, you add Powell to that. Besides adding their unprotected pick, I can't think of the sweetener Toronto could add and even that's an unknown. Plus Iirc, Powell has an opt out this summer and will no doubt flex it with such a weak free agent class.

At this point, Harris is pretty much legit untouchable to me. It would have to be an absolute whopper of an offer/player coming our way to deal him. We don't need another star and he's not worth that on paper anyway.

Like I'm thinking something centered around Myles Turner and Justin Holiday for him with some minor filler like Claxton and Shamet thrown in and I still give pause, though I don't think you can pass that up.

I love Powell. I talked about throwing a ridiculous overpay at him years back when he was a free agent, think he gets heavily underrated, if not rated at all by most fans, but I'm keeping the home grown Harris over him.

I would most likely trade Spence, Claxton, Shamet, every 2nd not nailed down for him and Baynes though.

i think im just higher on powell. i view him as more impactful then turner/holiday combined. to me he is one of like 3 or 4 role guys in the entire league who give you all-nba type defense with solid to good offense. he is like a better shooting marcus smart.

[vincecarter4pres]

Norm Powell is the guy.

Thats the get. thats the glue. thats our marcus smart.

Championship player. dirt dog. defender, shooter, athletic, not scared of big moments. fits seemlessly into the starting lineup. gives you browns defense with 38-40% three point shooting.

I would even consider giving up Harris for that if toronto added value.I dont think there is a better fit then powell as far as non bigs go

being able to get baynes too max toronto an ideal trade partner. size/toughness with Baynes and he stretches the floor

Dinwiddie/Claxton/Shamet/multiple seconds, perry, TLC if needed for powell/Baynes is a grand slam

Harden | Kyrie | Powell | KD | Jordan

Johnson | Harris |Green | Baynes | [ONE of the big 3]

thats a championship roster

I was with you until the underlined/bold, this is just wild. Harris is an all time great shooter, at least average defender, above average finisher, moves without the ball, can put the ball on the floor, cuts, overall smart and fearless player, on a fair at worst contract in his prime.

You don't trade that for Powell, you add Powell to that. Besides adding their unprotected pick, I can't think of the sweetener Toronto could add and even that's an unknown. Plus Iirc, Powell has an opt out this summer and will no doubt flex it with such a weak free agent class.

At this point, Harris is pretty much legit untouchable to me. It would have to be an absolute whopper of an offer/player coming our way to deal him. We don't need another star and he's not worth that on paper anyway.

Like I'm thinking something centered around Myles Turner and Justin Holiday for him with some minor filler like Claxton and Shamet thrown in and I still give pause, though I don't think you can pass that up.

I love Powell. I talked about throwing a ridiculous overpay at him years back when he was a free agent, think he gets heavily underrated, if not rated at all by most fans, but I'm keeping the home grown Harris over him.

I would most likely trade Spence, Claxton, Shamet, every 2nd not nailed down for him and Baynes though.

i think im just higher on powell. i view him as more impactful then turner/holiday combined. to me he is one of like 3 or 4 role guys in the entire league who give you all-nba type defense with solid to good offense. he is like a better shooting marcus smart.

I think so lol. Again, I am quite high on Powell and I understand he's performed admirably on a decent sample size when given a larger role as well, meaning he's not a fluke.

And his D is very good. But it's not Marcus Smart good Imho. Not at all.

He's also pretty streaky and can struggle when his role is minimized, like it would be here, like it often is in Toronto.

If he was an efficient Marcus Smart, you're talking an absurdly good, big minute, household name player. I don't care if you have OG, Spicy P, VanVleet, etc., a player that good is forcing his way into 32+ minutes a game and more responsibility/shots. We're talking about a guy who was splitting burn with the likes of Delon Wright as recent as 2 seasons ago.

Again, that's not to talk him down, nor say he couldn't improve, but I think you're rating him just a smidge too high.

[Prokorov]

I was with you until the underlined/bold, this is just wild. Harris is an all time great shooter, at least average defender, above average finisher, moves without the ball, can put the ball on the floor, cuts, overall smart and fearless player, on a fair at worst contract in his prime.

You don't trade that for Powell, you add Powell to that. Besides adding their unprotected pick, I can't think of the sweetener Toronto could add and even that's an unknown. Plus Iirc, Powell has an opt out this summer and will no doubt flex it with such a weak free agent class.

At this point, Harris is pretty much legit untouchable to me. It would have to be an absolute whopper of an offer/player coming our way to deal him. We don't need another star and he's not worth that on paper anyway.

Like I'm thinking something centered around Myles Turner and Justin Holiday for him with some minor filler like Claxton and Shamet thrown in and I still give pause, though I don't think you can pass that up.

I love Powell. I talked about throwing a ridiculous overpay at him years back when he was a free agent, think he gets heavily underrated, if not rated at all by most fans, but I'm keeping the home grown Harris over him.

I would most likely trade Spence, Claxton, Shamet, every 2nd not nailed down for him and Baynes though.

i think im just higher on powell. i view him as more impactful then turner/holiday combined. to me he is one of like 3 or 4 role guys in the entire league who give you all-nba type defense with solid to good offense. he is like a better shooting marcus smart.

I think so lol. Again, I am quite high on Powell and I understand he's performed admirably on a decent sample size when given a larger role as well, meaning he's not a fluke.

And his D is very good. But it's not Marcus Smart good Imho. Not at all.

He's also pretty streaky and can struggle when his role is minimized, like it would be here, like it often is in Toronto.

If he was an efficient Marcus Smart, you're talking an absurdly good, big minute, household name player. I don't care if you have OG, Spicy P, VanVleet, etc., a player that good is forcing his way into 32+ minutes a game and more responsibility/shots. We're talking about a guy who was splitting burn with the likes of Delon Wright as recent as 2 seasons ago.

Again, that's not to talk him down, nor say he couldn't improve, but I think you're rating him just a smidge too high.

I think he is actually better the smart defensively, just doesnt get the reputation calls. i think he is a top 4 defender among smalls. with DPOTY type ability. and he is a gamer. idk im probably too high on him, or the sample i watch is just coincidently his best games

[vincecarter4pres]

i think im just higher on powell. i view him as more impactful then turner/holiday combined. to me he is one of like 3 or 4 role guys in the entire league who give you all-nba type defense with solid to good offense. he is like a better shooting marcus smart.

I think so lol. Again, I am quite high on Powell and I understand he's performed admirably on a decent sample size when given a larger role as well, meaning he's not a fluke.

And his D is very good. But it's not Marcus Smart good Imho. Not at all.

He's also pretty streaky and can struggle when his role is minimized, like it would be here, like it often is in Toronto.

If he was an efficient Marcus Smart, you're talking an absurdly good, big minute, household name player. I don't care if you have OG, Spicy P, VanVleet, etc., a player that good is forcing his way into 32+ minutes a game and more responsibility/shots. We're talking about a guy who was splitting burn with the likes of Delon Wright as recent as 2 seasons ago.

Again, that's not to talk him down, nor say he couldn't improve, but I think you're rating him just a smidge too high.

I think he is actually better the smart defensively, just doesnt get the reputation calls. i think he is a top 4 defender among smalls. with DPOTY type ability. and he is a gamer. idk im probably too high on him, or the sample i watch is just coincidently his best games

Another thing I love that he would bring is some elite level athleticism and transition ability.

He plays a lot bigger than his 6'3 height as well.

He is a true top level 3&D wing.

[MrDollarBills]

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If Love is available for free you have to do it.

Bring him in as a 6th man with Harden as a stretch 4.

If Love gets a buy out, hell yes. Welcome aboard.

If not, nope.

[MrDollarBills]

i think im just higher on powell. i view him as more impactful then turner/holiday combined. to me he is one of like 3 or 4 role guys in the entire league who give you all-nba type defense with solid to good offense. he is like a better shooting marcus smart.

I think so lol. Again, I am quite high on Powell and I understand he's performed admirably on a decent sample size when given a larger role as well, meaning he's not a fluke.

And his D is very good. But it's not Marcus Smart good Imho. Not at all.

He's also pretty streaky and can struggle when his role is minimized, like it would be here, like it often is in Toronto.

If he was an efficient Marcus Smart, you're talking an absurdly good, big minute, household name player. I don't care if you have OG, Spicy P, VanVleet, etc., a player that good is forcing his way into 32+ minutes a game and more responsibility/shots. We're talking about a guy who was splitting burn with the likes of Delon Wright as recent as 2 seasons ago.

Again, that's not to talk him down, nor say he couldn't improve, but I think you're rating him just a smidge too high.

I think he is actually better the smart defensively, just doesnt get the reputation calls. i think he is a top 4 defender among smalls. with DPOTY type ability. and he is a gamer. idk im probably too high on him, or the sample i watch is just coincidently his best games

Is Powell available though?

[DarkXaero]

A lot of overrating of Norman Powell going on in here. At least there's some acknowledgement.

[Openheimer]

I’d love becomes available I suspect he will go play with his buddy with the lakers

[ecuhus1981]

I’d love becomes available I suspect he will go play with his buddy with the lakers

The Lakers have a stacked frontcourt already, and Love has a buddy on the Nets as well

[Openheimer]

I’d love becomes available I suspect he will go play with his buddy with the lakers

The Lakers have a stacked frontcourt already, and Love has a buddy on the Nets as well

They can bring him off the bench and play him big minutes at PF with Davis at center or go small with him as a center