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Re: Hard to Believe Ainge will Make any Move Soon Trade Thread 

Post#1881 » by winsomme2 » Wed Jan 27, 2021 4:12 pm

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He is hands down one of the worst players I have ever seen that was not an end-of-bench, minimum salary guy. I once referred to a washed up David Lee as "asswater", but Oubre is is 10 levels below that.


I’m still trying to digest the crow from my take on David Lee. He was actually worse than what you made him out to be, which is saying a whole lot because you didn’t pull any punches. I still have PTSD from watching his signature move as a Celtic - 360 spin into the lane and getting nothing but backboard. Tough to do at his size, 3-4 feet away from the hoop.


LOL. As to Oubre, I would literally rather eat a bowl of rocks and broken glass mixed with my own poo than ever see him in a Celtics uniform. And yet the Pels might deal Lonzo for him.


Pels are really in the bad moves business these days.

Isn't Bledsoe just a worse version of Jrue? Why would you deal Jrue for Bledsoe? All you're doing is downgrading at the same position.
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Post#1882 » by SmartWentCrazy » Wed Jan 27, 2021 4:15 pm

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Play him over Javonte then


Already have Langford for that, and not worth a FRP regardless.

Dude is getting floated for Oubre right now, and Oubre makes more money and is having one of the worst seasons ever.
The fact so many people want lonzo and would give up assets for him makes me really wonder about the collective knowledge around here

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The fact that people think he wouldnt be a MASSIVE upgrade over Jeff Teague makes me question if theyve ever watched a game that doesnt involve the Celtics
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Re: Hard to Believe Ainge will Make any Move Soon Trade Thread 

Post#1883 » by tfribs45 » Wed Jan 27, 2021 4:16 pm

why would we need Lonzo Ball ?! SMH we have Kemba, Cobra, PP and Teague... now if you add a sharp shooting vet instead, then we're talking.... No need for Ball and all of the other baggage to go with him on the C's. NO CHANCE
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Post#1884 » by winsomme2 » Wed Jan 27, 2021 4:16 pm

I think part of my problem with thinking through what the Cs should do is that it feels like THE move that will either make us serious contenders or leave us stuck in the second tier.

We have this huge TPE and alot of really interesting young chips...plus Kemba looks solid. So we could be players in most trade scenarios.

I feel sorta frozen much like it feels like Danny is...What REALLY is the right next move? It's not entirely clear.
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Post#1885 » by SmartWentCrazy » Wed Jan 27, 2021 4:19 pm

Some people who dont want Lonzo would be saying funny things about Smart if he werent on our team :lol:

He has made every team better whenever he is on the court. He’s a winning player who moves the ball. But please, educate me on how Jeff Teague is the better option
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Post#1886 » by SmartWentCrazy » Wed Jan 27, 2021 4:20 pm

tfribs45 wrote:why would we need Lonzo Ball ?! SMH we have Kemba, Cobra, PP and Teague... now if you add a sharp shooting vet instead, then we're talking.... No need for Ball and all of the other baggage to go with him on the C's. NO CHANCE


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Post#1887 » by SmartWentCrazy » Wed Jan 27, 2021 4:22 pm

Me: our bench sucks, we should add talent

Everyone: no way! Our rookies are good. We need the FRP for cheap talent

*lose in the playoffs because were so shallow*

Repeat exercise.
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Post#1888 » by tfribs45 » Wed Jan 27, 2021 4:24 pm

SmartWentCrazy wrote:
tfribs45 wrote:why would we need Lonzo Ball ?! SMH we have Kemba, Cobra, PP and Teague... now if you add a sharp shooting vet instead, then we're talking.... No need for Ball and all of the other baggage to go with him on the C's. NO CHANCE


Lol


you really think Danny and CO. want to deal with the Ball family lol. We already have the Kardashians in town. TMZ would be all over the TD Garden. In all seriousness, Redick would be a great snag, if we could unload Green and a few seconds. Not sure what it would take
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Post#1889 » by SmartWentCrazy » Wed Jan 27, 2021 4:26 pm

tfribs45 wrote:
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tfribs45 wrote:why would we need Lonzo Ball ?! SMH we have Kemba, Cobra, PP and Teague... now if you add a sharp shooting vet instead, then we're talking.... No need for Ball and all of the other baggage to go with him on the C's. NO CHANCE


Lol


you really think Danny and CO. want to deal with the Ball family lol. We already have the Kardashians in town. TMZ would be all over the TD Garden. In all seriousness, Redick would be a great snag, if we could unload Green and a few seconds. Not sure what it would take


Have you watched anything since 2017? Or seen that Lonzo had a massive falling out with his dad, largely due to his actions. And that theyve since reconciled, but Lavar hasnt said ****?

And your advocating dumping Javonte for Redick?
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Re: Hard to Believe Ainge will Make any Move Soon Trade Thread 

Post#1890 » by 31to6 » Wed Jan 27, 2021 4:32 pm

SmartWentCrazy wrote:Me: our bench sucks, we should add talent

Everyone: no way! Our rookies are good. We need the FRP for cheap talent

*lose in the playoffs because were so shallow*

Repeat exercise.


I'm here to say that I defended the bench vociferously last season (good net rating, played D, were 'solid') but don't feel up to doing so again this season. If Teague/Pritchard/Romeo or Nesmith/Semi or Grant/Rob Williams can't get it done then that's on Danny and Brad. Brad gets credit from me for developing the youngsters in that group so far. Still a lot more needed before the playoffs though, and not sure how realistic it is to hope/expect it.
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Post#1891 » by 2Mas » Wed Jan 27, 2021 4:34 pm

winsomme2 wrote:I think part of my problem with thinking through what the Cs should do is that it feels like THE move that will either make us serious contenders or leave us stuck in the second tier.

We have this huge TPE and alot of really interesting young chips...plus Kemba looks solid. So we could be players in most trade scenarios.

I feel sorta frozen much like it feels like Danny is...What REALLY is the right next move? It's not entirely clear.

I agree. I don't see a clear move either.

I don't even know who i want to start. I kinda think our backcourt should be Kemba, Brown & Pritchard Smart off the bench. Don't think we need more guard depth then.
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Re: Hard to Believe Ainge will Make any Move Soon Trade Thread 

Post#1892 » by CeltsfanSinceBirth » Wed Jan 27, 2021 4:44 pm

SmartWentCrazy wrote:Some people who dont want Lonzo would be saying funny things about Smart if he werent on our team :lol:

He has made every team better whenever he is on the court. He’s a winning player who moves the ball. But please, educate me on how Jeff Teague is the better option


Wasting a first round pick to bolster our backup PG spot for what, a little over half a season, doesn’t exactly scream great value to me. You can’t even let this guy be a primary ball handler during close games because his shooting from the line is atrocious.
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Re: Hard to Believe Ainge will Make any Move Soon Trade Thread 

Post#1893 » by MagicBagley18 » Wed Jan 27, 2021 4:44 pm

SmartWentCrazy wrote:Me: our bench sucks, we should add talent

Everyone: no way! Our rookies are good. We need the FRP for cheap talent

*lose in the playoffs because were so shallow*

Repeat exercise.


Haha I’ll admit I’m part of the hypocrisy. I know we need a bench to win in the playoffs and I still think our depth sucks but I’ve pivoted to upgrading it using only 2nd rounders and or the usual theis, semi, carsen, or the smaller tpe’s. Basically a pu pu platter of **** which I known really won’t net us anything great.

I go back and forth but basically it always comes back to if something really good comes up we should pounce on it but not an ok move at the expense (multiple 1sts) of a big move this offseason. I guess I just don’t think we can win this year even with depth moves but admittedly we may be close than I thought.

I just think we may be able to get fireworks this summer and I’d rather take that shot even if it’s a small chance than make moves now that don’t really change our title chances that dramatically and could also be made down the road.
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Re: Hard to Believe Ainge will Make any Move Soon Trade Thread 

Post#1894 » by La Flame » Wed Jan 27, 2021 4:48 pm

tfribs45 wrote:
SmartWentCrazy wrote:
tfribs45 wrote:why would we need Lonzo Ball ?! SMH we have Kemba, Cobra, PP and Teague... now if you add a sharp shooting vet instead, then we're talking.... No need for Ball and all of the other baggage to go with him on the C's. NO CHANCE


Lol


you really think Danny and CO. want to deal with the Ball family lol. We already have the Kardashians in town. TMZ would be all over the TD Garden. In all seriousness, Redick would be a great snag, if we could unload Green and a few seconds. Not sure what it would take


Lavar has been quiet for years now and besides that Lonzo is his own man, who cares what Lavar thinks about the Celtics? I'm sure he'd love running the court with the Js
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Post#1895 » by SmartWentCrazy » Wed Jan 27, 2021 4:51 pm

CeltsfanSinceBirth wrote:
SmartWentCrazy wrote:Some people who dont want Lonzo would be saying funny things about Smart if he werent on our team :lol:

He has made every team better whenever he is on the court. He’s a winning player who moves the ball. But please, educate me on how Jeff Teague is the better option


Wasting a first round pick to bolster our backup PG spot for what, a little over half a season, doesn’t exactly scream great value to me. You can’t even let this guy be a primary ball handler during close games because his shooting from the line is atrocious.


Its a late FRP. And a guy you’d hope to retain.
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Post#1896 » by ddb » Wed Jan 27, 2021 4:51 pm

a physical wing that can make shots and is better than Semi/Grant is what this team will eventually need. That's the move.
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Post#1897 » by SmartWentCrazy » Wed Jan 27, 2021 4:52 pm

MagicBagley18 wrote:
SmartWentCrazy wrote:Me: our bench sucks, we should add talent

Everyone: no way! Our rookies are good. We need the FRP for cheap talent

*lose in the playoffs because were so shallow*

Repeat exercise.


Haha I’ll admit I’m part of the hypocrisy. I know we need a bench to win in the playoffs and I still think our depth sucks but I’ve pivoted to upgrading it using only 2nd rounders and or the usual theis, semi, carsen, or the smaller tpe’s. Basically a pu pu platter of **** which I known really won’t net us anything great.

I go back and forth but basically it always comes back to if something really good comes up we should pounce on it but not an ok move at the expense (multiple 1sts) of a big move this offseason. I guess I just don’t think we can win this year even with depth moves but admittedly we may be close than I thought.

I just think we may be able to get fireworks this summer and I’d rather take that shot even if it’s a small chance than make moves now that don’t really change our title chances that dramatically and could also be made down the road.


I respectfully disagree. With Jaylen’s leap, we have two All-NBA caliber wings. I think were way closer than anyone is admitting.
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Post#1898 » by Mansurton » Wed Jan 27, 2021 4:55 pm

SmartWentCrazy wrote:Me: our bench sucks, we should add talent

Everyone: no way! Our rookies are good. We need the FRP for cheap talent

*lose in the playoffs because were so shallow*

Repeat exercise.

We need to get you a job in the front office to really turn this team around
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Post#1899 » by Curmudgeon » Wed Jan 27, 2021 5:00 pm

I'm happy with the team as presently constituted, although one more big body to bang with Embiid would be halpful. Having said that, Javonte Green is starting to come into his own, and I would not vacate that roster spot for just anybody.
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Post#1900 » by winsomme2 » Wed Jan 27, 2021 5:03 pm

ddb wrote:a physical wing that can make shots and is better than Semi/Grant is what this team will eventually need. That's the move.


That's a pretty low bar and how does this balance against our having this huge TPE?

I mean Harrison Barnes is clearly better than Grant and Semi but I wouldn't want to add him into the TPE....I think you need a better player than Barnes to pay that kind of money.

It's really not as simple to upgrade at the SF/PF....while I definitely agree that there is a clear need there.

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