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Trade Talk (Part Five)

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Re: Trade Talk (Part Five) 

Post#1781 » by Note30 » Wed Jan 27, 2021 8:55 pm

mercgold3 wrote:
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mercgold3 wrote:Objective on what?

Everything you said today i already showed you with the numbers that you are completely wrong in pretty much everything you said about Dlo.

Or you only like the "numbers" when is only to beat the rookie?


You didn't answer to any of it. You are just going off on your own fairytale.

Tell me now if you won't answer the previous ones. What happens if Curry had been in Dlo's place right now here on this team for these first 16 games, getting played off the bench behind Rubio in some games, having Edwards and Culver initiating offense instead of him. Constant changing roster/starters. A 6'4 guard playnig PF at times.

Tell me what you think Curry looks like right now in that situation. You won't. You already avoided it twice.



Is that a serious question thought?
How would the Timberwolves look in this first 16 games if we had Curry instead of Dlo?

I ask again...
Is that a serious question?

Are you really trying once again to put Dlo close to Curry level?

Under any circumstances the team would always look better with Curry. Like, a lot better.


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Re: Trade Talk (Part Five) 

Post#1782 » by Shaka_Zulu » Wed Jan 27, 2021 9:18 pm

Under no circumstances should Dlo ever be compared to Steph friggin Curry.



End of.
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Re: Trade Talk (Part Five) 

Post#1783 » by Note30 » Wed Jan 27, 2021 11:12 pm

Shaka_Zulu wrote:Under no circumstances should Dlo ever be compared to Steph friggin Curry.



End of.


Well we can compare them.

Which was a bigger mistake - trading for Dlo or not drafting Steph Curry?
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Re: Trade Talk (Part Five) 

Post#1784 » by Jedzz » Thu Jan 28, 2021 2:29 am

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Lots of picks coming our way tho right?


No. Why would there be? You guys are saying DLo/Kat are junk. Wolves will probably have to add picks soon at this rate, the way some of you are working on their perceived value.


I never said KAT was junk. He's a great 2nd option. He's the closest equivalent to AD in this league. He's AD with a significantly better 3PT shot, but not as good on defense. The problem is that AD and LeBron = championship. We don't have anyone remotely close to a wing or guard like that.



And you never will, get it? Wolves need a team of above average players and you need to come to terms with that.
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Re: Trade Talk (Part Five) 

Post#1785 » by NYG » Thu Jan 28, 2021 2:31 am

I'm a Knicks fan, but I swear I'm not trolling, just asking questions you guys are more likely to have the answers to...

1. Is it at all possible that the Wolves would trade Karl-Anthony Towns and just do a full rebuild with a kings ransom return?

2. If you woke up tomorrow and the Timberwolves did hypothetically trade Towns, what did they get in return in this hypothetical in your opinion?
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Re: Trade Talk (Part Five) 

Post#1786 » by Dewey » Thu Jan 28, 2021 2:34 am

NYG wrote:I'm a Knicks fan, but I swear I'm not trolling, just asking questions you guys are more likely to have the answers to...

1. Is it at all possible that the Wolves would trade Karl-Anthony Towns and just do a full rebuild with a kings ransom return?

2. If you woke up tomorrow and the Timberwolves did hypothetically trade Towns, what did they get in return in this hypothetical in your opinion?

I’d clean house in a heartbeat for the right package ... but right now I’m not sure we have the ability to draft and trade well enough to ever get full value of the ransom
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Re: Trade Talk (Part Five) 

Post#1787 » by Jedzz » Thu Jan 28, 2021 2:59 am

Shaka_Zulu wrote:Under no circumstances should Dlo ever be compared to Steph friggin Curry.



End of.



The iq utilization in this place has really dropped lately and it's beyond annoying now. I won't be conversing much with kids that act like they quit jr high.

We've got a poster claiming Curry missing Thompson this year means he's kicked up his level of play all based on higher PPG, whie ignoring his much more mundane percentages now. A sizable drop in his previous career efficiency.

What this usually is described as around the league is a singular upper tier player simply on higher volume of a bad team when it's anyone else. The double standards being employed by many about this is clear to me. Of course Curry is really only missing one player. Warriors still have Green and replaced Thompsons 21-22 per game with Wiggins who can himself score 18-20/g if needed, while adding Wiseman, Oubre. This Warriors team is stacked compared to our joke of a roster clusterfk.

So the point was to imagine Curry instead in Dlo's position here. Dealing with much more then a simple loss of Thompson dragging down Curry's efficiency. Here he would have to contest with his own players for his very role as PG. Here his fans would chew on his butt all night long for calling his own number too much. Here they would want Rubio and Edwards running point instead. What then would you expect Curry's efficiency and production to be here playing with these idiots who it often makes no sense to pass to? This is a suggestion to think with some perspective.
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Re: Trade Talk (Part Five) 

Post#1788 » by Jedzz » Thu Jan 28, 2021 3:04 am

NYG wrote:I'm a Knicks fan, but I swear I'm not trolling, just asking questions you guys are more likely to have the answers to...

1. Is it at all possible that the Wolves would trade Karl-Anthony Towns and just do a full rebuild with a kings ransom return?

2. If you woke up tomorrow and the Timberwolves did hypothetically trade Towns, what did they get in return in this hypothetical in your opinion?


It's happened so often here it doesn't matter if you are trolling or not, it's a once a week discussion here anyway so Welscome!

Get the Knicks to pull a couple teams together to amass assets and lets get it over with. The guy hasn't chosen to play many games here in the last few years anyway since we are always forever in tank mode. The teams fans only get enjoyment from Draft events anyway.
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Re: Trade Talk (Part Five) 

Post#1789 » by Note30 » Thu Jan 28, 2021 3:05 am

Jedzz wrote:
Note30 wrote:
Jedzz wrote:
No. Why would there be? You guys are saying DLo/Kat are junk. Wolves will probably have to add picks soon at this rate, the way some of you are working on their perceived value.


I never said KAT was junk. He's a great 2nd option. He's the closest equivalent to AD in this league. He's AD with a significantly better 3PT shot, but not as good on defense. The problem is that AD and LeBron = championship. We don't have anyone remotely close to a wing or guard like that.



And you never will, get it? Wolves need a team of above average players and you need to come to terms with that.


The Sours drafted Kawhi, the Bucks drafted Giannis, the Mavs drafted Luka.

We can draft a superstar wing too.
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Re: Trade Talk (Part Five) 

Post#1790 » by Jedzz » Thu Jan 28, 2021 3:06 am

Note30 wrote:
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I'm always trying to be objective on players. But I'm not about posters. Some are just random pieces of
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Re: Trade Talk (Part Five) 

Post#1791 » by NYG » Thu Jan 28, 2021 3:07 am

Jedzz wrote:
NYG wrote:I'm a Knicks fan, but I swear I'm not trolling, just asking questions you guys are more likely to have the answers to...

1. Is it at all possible that the Wolves would trade Karl-Anthony Towns and just do a full rebuild with a kings ransom return?

2. If you woke up tomorrow and the Timberwolves did hypothetically trade Towns, what did they get in return in this hypothetical in your opinion?


It's happened so often here it doesn't matter if you are trolling or not, it's a once a week discussion here anyway so Welscome!

Get the Knicks to pull a couple teams together to amass assets and lets get it over with. The guy hasn't chosen to play many games here in the last few years anyway since we are always forever in tank mode. The teams fans only get enjoyment from Draft events anyway.


Do the Knicks even have enough to get him though?
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Re: Trade Talk (Part Five) 

Post#1792 » by Jedzz » Thu Jan 28, 2021 3:09 am

Note30 wrote:
Jedzz wrote:
Note30 wrote:
I never said KAT was junk. He's a great 2nd option. He's the closest equivalent to AD in this league. He's AD with a significantly better 3PT shot, but not as good on defense. The problem is that AD and LeBron = championship. We don't have anyone remotely close to a wing or guard like that.



And you never will, get it? Wolves need a team of above average players and you need to come to terms with that.


The Sours drafted Kawhi, the Bucks drafted Giannis, the Mavs drafted Luka.

We can draft a superstar wing too.


No, they don't know how. They could have drafted Kawhi and Giannis.
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Re: Trade Talk (Part Five) 

Post#1793 » by Jedzz » Thu Jan 28, 2021 3:12 am

NYG wrote:
Jedzz wrote:
NYG wrote:I'm a Knicks fan, but I swear I'm not trolling, just asking questions you guys are more likely to have the answers to...

1. Is it at all possible that the Wolves would trade Karl-Anthony Towns and just do a full rebuild with a kings ransom return?

2. If you woke up tomorrow and the Timberwolves did hypothetically trade Towns, what did they get in return in this hypothetical in your opinion?


It's happened so often here it doesn't matter if you are trolling or not, it's a once a week discussion here anyway so Welscome!

Get the Knicks to pull a couple teams together to amass assets and lets get it over with. The guy hasn't chosen to play many games here in the last few years anyway since we are always forever in tank mode. The teams fans only get enjoyment from Draft events anyway.


Do the Knicks even have enough to get him though?


...see the suggestion to bring a few teams together to amass assets. For example, how the Nets worked with Cleveland and whoever else to get Harden. Might take a number of moves. I don't really know Knicks assets situation well.
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Re: Trade Talk (Part Five) 

Post#1794 » by Merc_Porto » Thu Jan 28, 2021 3:26 am

Jedzz wrote:
Shaka_Zulu wrote:Under no circumstances should Dlo ever be compared to Steph friggin Curry.



End of.



The iq utilization in this place has really dropped lately and it's beyond annoying now. I won't be conversing much with kids that act like they quit jr high.

We've got a poster claiming Curry missing Thompson this year means he's kicked up his level of play all based on higher PPG, whie ignoring his much more mundane percentages now. A sizable drop in his previous career efficiency.

What this usually is described as around the league is a singular upper tier player simply on higher volume of a bad team when it's anyone else. The double standards being employed by many about this is clear to me. Of course Curry is really only missing one player. Warriors still have Green and replaced Thompsons 21-22 per game with Wiggins who can himself score 18-20/g if needed, while adding Wiseman, Oubre. This Warriors team is stacked compared to our joke of a roster clusterfk.

So the point was to imagine Curry instead in Dlo's position here. Dealing with much more then a simple loss of Thompson dragging down Curry's efficiency. Here he would have to contest with his own players for his very role as PG. Here his fans would chew on his butt all night long for calling his own number too much. Here they would want Rubio and Edwards running point instead. What then would you expect Curry's efficiency and production to be here playing with these idiots who it often makes no sense to pass to? This is a suggestion to think with some perspective.

Are you ok? Wtf is wrong with you?
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Re: Trade Talk (Part Five) 

Post#1795 » by Jedzz » Thu Jan 28, 2021 3:36 am

mercgold3 wrote:Are you ok? Wtf is wrong with you?

No, I'm not ok. Covid life sucks, my chosen sports entertainment sucks more then usual and morons just keep making it worse. Got any more questions?
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Re: Trade Talk (Part Five) 

Post#1796 » by Note30 » Thu Jan 28, 2021 3:40 am

Jedzz wrote:
Note30 wrote:
Jedzz wrote:
And you never will, get it? Wolves need a team of above average players and you need to come to terms with that.


The Sours drafted Kawhi, the Bucks drafted Giannis, the Mavs drafted Luka.

We can draft a superstar wing too.


No, they don't know how. They could have drafted Kawhi and Giannis.


Roughly 14 other teams passed on them too. If anything that screams as to why we need better management.
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Re: Trade Talk (Part Five) 

Post#1797 » by Note30 » Thu Jan 28, 2021 3:43 am

Jedzz wrote:
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bUt mErC yOuRE nOt bEiNg oBjECTIve


I'm always trying to be objective on players. But I'm not about posters. Some are just random pieces of


You compared Steph to DLo. A two time unanimous NBA MVP, 3x Champion, Multiple All Firsts to a guy who had made one all star experience (maybe)?

And said they were somewhat similar because of stats. I'm just saying my dude you're definitely a little on your own here.
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Re: Trade Talk (Part Five) 

Post#1798 » by Jedzz » Thu Jan 28, 2021 3:44 am

Note30 wrote:
Jedzz wrote:
Note30 wrote:
The Sours drafted Kawhi, the Bucks drafted Giannis, the Mavs drafted Luka.

We can draft a superstar wing too.


No, they don't know how. They could have drafted Kawhi and Giannis.


Roughly 14 other teams passed on them too. If anything that screams as to why we need better management.

And there are 10-15 bad or stuggling teams each year. Nobody ever said they were any good at it either. Excuses. Endless excuses.

It's their job to evaluate these players, you get that right? A fulltime job just about getting this stuff right once a year.
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Re: Trade Talk (Part Five) 

Post#1799 » by Jedzz » Thu Jan 28, 2021 3:45 am

Note30 wrote:
Jedzz wrote:
Note30 wrote:
bUt mErC yOuRE nOt bEiNg oBjECTIve


I'm always trying to be objective on players. But I'm not about posters. Some are just random pieces of


You compared Steph to DLo. .


I compared team situations and environments. Learn to read. It is a required skill in this environment.
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Re: Trade Talk (Part Five) 

Post#1800 » by Domejandro » Thu Jan 28, 2021 3:57 am

This is a trade thread, move the conversation elsewhere, or drop it.

Mod text aside, let's stop flooding different threads with the same conversation over and over.

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