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Texas Chuck wrote:3toheadmelo wrote:I saw a Knicks fan retweet it lol not following him
Gotcha. Because he's a spare former baseball player who thinks he's a basketball expert who got fired from the good sports station for calling Spurs fans "dirty Mexicans". Just a complete shock jock clown. Was so confused why a New York guy would be following him.
Apse4 wrote:Easy. Porzingis.
Clincher wrote:The_Hater wrote:RoxSteady wrote:Most people would rather have Porzingis on their team, and that's a fair take. But I think it's worth pointing out that Randle (who came to NY through cap space freed up by the Porzingis trade, I believe) is only 9 months older than KP; has played in every game at an average of 37 mpg; and is averaging almost 23, 11, and 7. Probably playing better D than earlier in his career too.
The Knicks didn't sign KD and Kyrie; DSJ hasn't been good so far; the Mavs' picks the Knicks will receive likely will not be lottery picks; but think I think Randle's play makes the KP trade look a little better in retrospect and once again proves my theory that Frank Isola is always wrong:
Trading Porzingis might have been the only thing that could be done at that point as things had grown sour, but I doubt it. But the 2 things missing in this equation is that Durant himself mentioned that KP was a player that he’d like to play with, so the Knicks did things ass backwards if one of the goals trading him was to help their free agency prospects. Plus they also negotiated a hilariously bad trade package which only looks 5 times worse in hindsight with the value of high level players continuing to rise.
The Knicks screwed up here, and that’s the sort of stuff that happens when you have a dysfunctional front office with an interim GM pulling the strings.
I would wait until the draft picks all happen before deeming this a failure. Given KP would have bolted, I would be happy to get a fringe starter or solid bench prospect with the unprotected pick all things considered. Would I have liked to have seen more sure but I don't deem this a failed trade, especially if the cap space leads to a good surplus package for Randle.
AthensBucks wrote:Lowry is done.
Nurse is below average at best.
Masai is overrated.
I dont get how so many people believe in the raptors,they have zero to chance to win it all.
RoxSteady wrote:The_Hater wrote:RoxSteady wrote:Most people would rather have Porzingis on their team, and that's a fair take. But I think it's worth pointing out that Randle (who came to NY through cap space freed up by the Porzingis trade, I believe) is only 9 months older than KP; has played in every game at an average of 37 mpg; and is averaging almost 23, 11, and 7. Probably playing better D than earlier in his career too.
The Knicks didn't sign KD and Kyrie; DSJ hasn't been good so far; the Mavs' picks the Knicks will receive likely will not be lottery picks; but think I think Randle's play makes the KP trade look a little better in retrospect and once again proves my theory that Frank Isola is always wrong:
Trading Porzingis might have been the only thing that could be done at that point as things had grown sour, but I doubt it. But the 2 things missing in this equation is that Durant himself mentioned that KP was a player that he’d like to play with, so the Knicks did things ass backwards if one of the goals trading him was to help their free agency prospects. Plus they also negotiated a hilariously bad trade package which only looks 5 times worse in hindsight with the value of high level players continuing to rise.
The Knicks screwed up here, and that’s the sort of stuff that happens when you have a dysfunctional front office with an interim GM pulling the strings.
Was it possible to sign KD while keeping KP? I thought trading Hardaway and Courtney Lee along with KP is what allowed them to clear the cap space that would've been necessary to sign KD.
AthensBucks wrote:Lowry is done.
Nurse is below average at best.
Masai is overrated.
I dont get how so many people believe in the raptors,they have zero to chance to win it all.
urgal wrote:What I still don't get about Knicks fans in this thread: if Randle is your guy and if you don't need Porzingis and if you won that trade, why are you guys still so obsessed with him and trying to prove everybody wrong, reposting some random tweets out of nowhere that talk Porzingis down and stuff.
If everythings perfect in the Mekka why don't just enjoy your own team then?
You guys come across like some crazy and insecure ex-girlfriend that just can't get over the splitup.
enjoy that horrible contract and thanks for the picks 3toheadmelo wrote:urgal wrote:What I still don't get about Knicks fans in this thread: if Randle is your guy and if you don't need Porzingis and if you won that trade, why are you guys still so obsessed with him and trying to prove everybody wrong, reposting some random tweets out of nowhere that talk Porzingis down and stuff.
If everythings perfect in the Mekka why don't just enjoy your own team then?
You guys come across like some crazy and insecure ex-girlfriend that just can't get over the splitup.
You sound big mad that your boy is ass and holding back the Mavs
Thanks for proving my point urgal wrote:3toheadmelo wrote:urgal wrote:What I still don't get about Knicks fans in this thread: if Randle is your guy and if you don't need Porzingis and if you won that trade, why are you guys still so obsessed with him and trying to prove everybody wrong, reposting some random tweets out of nowhere that talk Porzingis down and stuff.
If everythings perfect in the Mekka why don't just enjoy your own team then?
You guys come across like some crazy and insecure ex-girlfriend that just can't get over the splitup.
You sound big mad that your boy is ass and holding back the Mavs
Even throw in THJ plays better than Randle. Enjoy Dennis Smith and have fun picking the next Kevin Knox.
[/quote][/quote]3toheadmelo wrote:Lol @ Timmy chuckaway being better than Randle. You out here in denial hahahahaah thanks mark cuban!
3toheadmelo wrote:urgal wrote:What I still don't get about Knicks fans in this thread: if Randle is your guy and if you don't need Porzingis and if you won that trade, why are you guys still so obsessed with him and trying to prove everybody wrong, reposting some random tweets out of nowhere that talk Porzingis down and stuff.
If everythings perfect in the Mekka why don't just enjoy your own team then?
You guys come across like some crazy and insecure ex-girlfriend that just can't get over the splitup.
You sound big mad that your boy is ass and holding back the Mavs
[/quote]urgal wrote:3toheadmelo wrote:Lol @ Timmy chuckaway being better than Randle. You out here in denial hahahahaah thanks mark cuban!
[/quote] You mad asf. Even Mavs fans saying they rather have Randle lmfao. Keep losing so we can get a higher lottery pick! Thanks for your cooperation. 3toheadmelo wrote:
You mad asf. Even Mavs fans saying they rather have Randle lmfao. Keep losing so we can get a higher lottery pick! Thanks for your cooperation. urgal wrote:3toheadmelo wrote:
thanks for the laughs and the picks! Hahahaha 3toheadmelo wrote:urgal wrote:3toheadmelo wrote:
You're welcome. I hope these picks will help you finally finish the rebuild that's been going on since 1999.
You’re like Trump hella salty that you lost the trade. Refusing to concede
urgal wrote:3toheadmelo wrote:urgal wrote:
You're welcome. I hope these picks will help you finally finish the rebuild that's been going on since 1999.
You’re like Trump hella salty that you lost the trade. Refusing to concede
I'm not messing with crazy, so whatever you say ex-girlfriend.
(I'm done here btw. But I guess you need to have the last word anyway)
urgal wrote:Zenzibar wrote:Question.
Are the Mavs relevant due to KP or Luka? What would the Mavs look like without him (Luka)?
You know what they'll look like without Luka? Like the Knicks with Randle.
So you're admitting Randle's not a difference maker then. Glad we finally got that out of the way.
The_Hater wrote:Clincher wrote:The_Hater wrote:
Trading Porzingis might have been the only thing that could be done at that point as things had grown sour, but I doubt it. But the 2 things missing in this equation is that Durant himself mentioned that KP was a player that he’d like to play with, so the Knicks did things ass backwards if one of the goals trading him was to help their free agency prospects. Plus they also negotiated a hilariously bad trade package which only looks 5 times worse in hindsight with the value of high level players continuing to rise.
The Knicks screwed up here, and that’s the sort of stuff that happens when you have a dysfunctional front office with an interim GM pulling the strings.
I would wait until the draft picks all happen before deeming this a failure. Given KP would have bolted, I would be happy to get a fringe starter or solid bench prospect with the unprotected pick all things considered. Would I have liked to have seen more sure but I don't deem this a failed trade, especially if the cap space leads to a good surplus package for Randle.
You don’t really have to wait for the draft picks, Dallas is a good, if not very good tram and has a superstar which raises their floor too high. Those simply aren’t going to be high draft picks regardless of how much wishful thinking people do. Plus getting DSJ in the deal just ended up being bad salary. Between is poor attitude and low Bball IQ, Dallas couldn’t ditch him quickly enough. But the Knicks treated him like solid asset return based on the package they received.
I’m sure if they canvassed the league, and other GM’s did speak out that they had no idea that KP was even available, the Knicks could have easily found a better deal or 5. But again, that’s due to having poor management in charge. I’m pretty certain that Leon Rose wouldn’t make the same type of mistakes, he seems to be on the ball.
leolozon wrote:You know a fan base is desperate for anything positive when they start bringing up a guy who wasn't even in a trade to say how great the trade was...
