Fantasy Trade Thread: 2020 Offseason

[76ciology]

Am I missing the part where Beal will be enough to wins games that Embiid sits?

It sure isn't happening with the Wiz

Beal + our current group of players minus Embiid and Simmons is much better than what the wiz have.

Beal
Seth
Green
Tobias
D12

Off the bench:
Shake
Kork
Maxey
Bradley
I agree. That would be a lot better than the wiz.

[51X3RF4N]

Am I missing the part where Beal will be enough to wins games that Embiid sits?

It sure isn't happening with the Wiz

Beal + our current group of players minus Embiid and Simmons is much better than what the wiz have.

Based on what? Wishful thinking? This team has been awful without Embiid on the floor.

Mainly because this team lacks a perimeter scoring option. Beal is a primary perimeter scoring option. Beal is a primary scoring option, period.

With Joel on the floor next to Beal, this team would have 2 dynamic scorers who happen to fit together nicely and can work off each other's games.

With Joel off the floor, Beal can still be a primary bucket getter. And guys like Green/Curry/Howard/Harris are far superior to what Washington puts on the floor next to Beal every night.

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[cool93]

Sixers trade: Maxey, Thybulle, Green, Scott, 2021, 2023, 2027 1sts and 2022, 2024, 2026 swaps
Sixers get: Beal and some cheap fillers

We'll have Simmons, Beal, Harris, Embiid and still have solid depth with Milton, Curry, Korkmaz and Howard. Would need to get a 3D wing from buyout (still have that exception to spend i believe) and thats legit contender.
Spoke to a Wiz fan I know, he said thats a fair compensation, don't know if that's consensus though.

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[Stanford]

You have to do that trade if you can. That's one expensive ass team though, with no draft picks to pick up value guys here and there

[the_process]

Sixers trade: Maxey, Thybulle, Green, Scott, 2021, 2023, 2027 1sts and 2022, 2024, 2026 swaps
Sixers get: Beal and some cheap fillers

We'll have Simmons, Beal, Harris, Embiid and still have solid depth with Milton, Curry, Korkmaz and Howard. Would need to get a 3D wing from buyout (still have that exception to spend i believe) and thats legit contender.
Spoke to a Wiz fan I know, he said thats a fair compensation, don't know if that's consensus though.

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Seems fair to me. That team could win it this year. And then Morey can worry about the cap next year if need be.

What’s Trevor Ariza’s deal? He hasn’t reported to OKC. Does he not want to play there? If so, maybe he agrees to give back some cash so OKC buys him out early and the Sixers can grab him. Also if they could steal get Troy Brown as one of cheap fillers that would be good.

[ProcessDoctor]

We wouldn't be able to keep that team together beyond next season when Beal needs an extension. One of Harris or Simmons pretty much has to go out in a Beal trade. IMO our best hope is an all-star nomination for Tobias and some team willing to take on his contract.

[zaz102]

We wouldn't be able to keep that team together beyond next season when Beal needs an extension. One of Harris or Simmons pretty much has to go out in a Beal trade. IMO our best hope is an all-star nomination for Tobias and some team willing to take on his contract.

Agreed. My guess, but I think if you trade Harris, you would have include some of curry/green/thybulle/shake/maxey and picks. If you trade Simmons.

If you trade Simmons, maybe not so much more. I think it would take away some of Harris's effectiveness, but I think it would make them better and might be better than trading a Harris package. Since either way you need Embiid to win, I feel like their defense should still be decent even without Ben.

[51X3RF4N]

Feels like a JJ Redick trade about to go down any minute ...

Here's my attempt to reunite him with Embiid while solving the backup stretch 4 problem:

To NOP: George Hill, Ferguson and Poirier
From NOP: JJ Redick, Eric Bledsoe, picks

Why? Clear Bledsoe's contract and pick up a vet PG to lead the young group.

To OKC: Bledsoe, Mike Scott, picks
From OKC: Mike Muscala, George Hill

Why? Grab more picks to take on the Bledsoe contract

To PHI: JJ Redick, Mike Muscala
From PHI: Mike Scott, Ferguson, Poirier, picks

Why? Solves backup stretch big issue. Muscala has experience playing with Embiid, Redick and Simmons. Makes Joel happy to bring JJ back. Also clears a roster spot for the buyout market or future trades.

Embiid/Howard/Bradley
Harris/Muscala
Green/Thybulle/Korkmaz
Curry/Redick/Joe
Simmons/Milton/Maxey

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[76ciology]

Spurs:
Thybulle
8M Trade exemption
12M expiring (poirier, scott, bradley)

Why for the Spurs:
They got Thybulle rather than losing LMA for nothing.

Sixers:
Lamarcus Aldridge

Why for Sixers:
LMA shoots almost as good as Al on 3s last season.
This season LMA is the second best mid range shooter behind Beal.

LMA provides the Sixers a back-up that kind of plays a poor man version of Embiid.

LMA can play Biid’s role if Biid decides to sit out games. He can probably also play some of Mike Scott’s role.

*alternative is to use that package for Derozan but I think the value of Derozan is higher unlike LMA.

[youngcrev]

T.E. can't be used like that.

[51X3RF4N]

T.E. can't be used like that.

I wonder if Dallas would be willing to do 2 separate trades with us.

Maxi Kleber for future picks, absorbed into the TPE.

Then THJ for Matisse, Mike Scott, Ferguson and Bradley.

Embiid/Howard
Harris/Kleber
Simmons/Green
THJ/Milton
Curry/Maxey

Gets us a stretch big upgrade locked up for 3 years behind Tobias on a reasonable deal, and a creator/pull up shot taker on an expiring.

Green, Howard and THJ all expire, but 8 guys are locked up for multiple years. Fill in with other vet free agents, and draft. Milton or Maxey move to starting unit next season over THJ.

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[youngcrev]

T.E. can't be used like that.

I wonder if Dallas would be willing to do 2 separate trades with us.

Maxi Kleber for future picks, absorbed into the TPE.

Then THJ for Matisse, Mike Scott, Ferguson and Bradley.

Embiid/Howard
Harris/Kleber
Simmons/Green
THJ/Milton
Curry/Maxey

Gets us a stretch big upgrade locked up for 3 years behind Tobias on a reasonable deal, and a creator/pull up shot taker on an expiring.

Green, Howard and THJ all expire, but 8 guys are locked up for multiple years. Fill in with other vet free agents, and draft. Milton or Maxey move to starting unit next season over THJ.

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I don't see any reason why they would. They'd be giving up the 2 best players in the deal without much incentive coming their way.

[51X3RF4N]

T.E. can't be used like that.

I wonder if Dallas would be willing to do 2 separate trades with us.

Maxi Kleber for future picks, absorbed into the TPE.

Then THJ for Matisse, Mike Scott, Ferguson and Bradley.

Embiid/Howard
Harris/Kleber
Simmons/Green
THJ/Milton
Curry/Maxey

Gets us a stretch big upgrade locked up for 3 years behind Tobias on a reasonable deal, and a creator/pull up shot taker on an expiring.

Green, Howard and THJ all expire, but 8 guys are locked up for multiple years. Fill in with other vet free agents, and draft. Milton or Maxey move to starting unit next season over THJ.

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I don't see any reason why they would. They'd be giving up the 2 best players in the deal without much incentive coming their way.

Thybulle and a future 1st is pretty good incentive to give up Kleber, and expirings for expirings and picks. Dallas is a bad team right now and Luka is unhappy. Maybe going out and getting a defensive stud like Matisse who is young and can grow with him would make him happier?

Maybe it's a future protected 1st and a future pick swap, along with 3 or 4 second round picks to sweeten the deal.

Adding Kleber and THJ to this rotation makes the Sixers very championship worthy.

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[youngcrev]

I wonder if Dallas would be willing to do 2 separate trades with us.

Maxi Kleber for future picks, absorbed into the TPE.

Then THJ for Matisse, Mike Scott, Ferguson and Bradley.

Embiid/Howard
Harris/Kleber
Simmons/Green
THJ/Milton
Curry/Maxey

Gets us a stretch big upgrade locked up for 3 years behind Tobias on a reasonable deal, and a creator/pull up shot taker on an expiring.

Green, Howard and THJ all expire, but 8 guys are locked up for multiple years. Fill in with other vet free agents, and draft. Milton or Maxey move to starting unit next season over THJ.

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I don't see any reason why they would. They'd be giving up the 2 best players in the deal without much incentive coming their way.

Thybulle and a future 1st is pretty good incentive to give up Kleber, and expirings for expirings and picks. Dallas is a bad team right now and Luka is unhappy. Maybe going out and getting a defensive stud like Matisse who is young and can grow with him would make him happier?

Maybe it's a future protected 1st and a future pick swap, along with 3 or 4 second round picks to sweeten the deal.

Adding Kleber and THJ to this rotation makes the Sixers very championship worthy.

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Missed the 1st, which makes the value better.

Regardless, I don't think the Mavs have any interest in taking a step back. They're not playing good ball right now, but they've also dealt with an abnormal amount of missed time from guys, even by Covid standards

[LloydFree]

Feels like a JJ Redick trade about to go down any minute ...

Here's my attempt to reunite him with Embiid while solving the backup stretch 4 problem:

To NOP: George Hill, Ferguson and Poirier
From NOP: JJ Redick, Eric Bledsoe, picks

Why? Clear Bledsoe's contract and pick up a vet PG to lead the young group.

To OKC: Bledsoe, Mike Scott, picks
From OKC: Mike Muscala, George Hill

Why? Grab more picks to take on the Bledsoe contract

To PHI: JJ Redick, Mike Muscala
From PHI: Mike Scott, Ferguson, Poirier, picks

Why? Solves backup stretch big issue. Muscala has experience playing with Embiid, Redick and Simmons. Makes Joel happy to bring JJ back. Also clears a roster spot for the buyout market or future trades.

Embiid/Howard/Bradley
Harris/Muscala
Green/Thybulle/Korkmaz
Curry/Redick/Joe
Simmons/Milton/Maxey

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LOL

[the_process]

We wouldn't be able to keep that team together beyond next season when Beal needs an extension. One of Harris or Simmons pretty much has to go out in a Beal trade. IMO our best hope is an all-star nomination for Tobias and some team willing to take on his contract.

So then you trade Harris (or Simmons? Or both?!?) in the offseason.

[stormi]

Spurs:
Thybulle
8M Trade exemption
12M expiring (poirier, scott, bradley)

Why for the Spurs:
They got Thybulle rather than losing LMA for nothing.

Sixers:
Lamarcus Aldridge

Why for Sixers:
LMA shoots almost as good as Al on 3s last season.
This season LMA is the second best mid range shooter behind Beal.

LMA provides the Sixers a back-up that kind of plays a poor man version of Embiid.

LMA can play Biid’s role if Biid decides to sit out games. He can probably also play some of Mike Scott’s role.

*alternative is to use that package for Derozan but I think the value of Derozan is higher unlike LMA.

...

[sixers4real]

Sixers trade: Maxey, Thybulle, Green, Scott, 2021, 2023, 2027 1sts and 2022, 2024, 2026 swaps
Sixers get: Beal and some cheap fillers

We'll have Simmons, Beal, Harris, Embiid and still have solid depth with Milton, Curry, Korkmaz and Howard. Would need to get a 3D wing from buyout (still have that exception to spend i believe) and thats legit contender.
Spoke to a Wiz fan I know, he said thats a fair compensation, don't know if that's consensus though.

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Count me in for that trade.
You have to overpay if you want to have a chance to win in this league.

Real NBA title favorites all overpaid. LAL, LAC, Nets, Bucks. All lack NBA draft picks.
We will have the youngest stars out of teams lacking draft picks. Harris 28, Beal 27, Embiid 26, Simmons 24.

[76ciology]

Wolves:
Ben Simmons

Why for Wolves:
Ben is the perfect compliment for DLo and KAT

Sixers:
Anthony Edwards
Malik Beasley

Why for Sixers
Sixers stay just as good with Beasley now. Then take a free roll with Anthony Edwards

[stormi]

I wonder if Dallas would be willing to do 2 separate trades with us.

Maxi Kleber for future picks, absorbed into the TPE.

Then THJ for Matisse, Mike Scott, Ferguson and Bradley.

Embiid/Howard
Harris/Kleber
Simmons/Green
THJ/Milton
Curry/Maxey

Gets us a stretch big upgrade locked up for 3 years behind Tobias on a reasonable deal, and a creator/pull up shot taker on an expiring.

Green, Howard and THJ all expire, but 8 guys are locked up for multiple years. Fill in with other vet free agents, and draft. Milton or Maxey move to starting unit next season over THJ.

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I don't see any reason why they would. They'd be giving up the 2 best players in the deal without much incentive coming their way.

Thybulle and a future 1st is pretty good incentive to give up Kleber, and expirings for expirings and picks. Dallas is a bad team right now and Luka is unhappy. Maybe going out and getting a defensive stud like Matisse who is young and can grow with him would make him happier?

Maybe it's a future protected 1st and a future pick swap, along with 3 or 4 second round picks to sweeten the deal.

Adding Kleber and THJ to this rotation makes the Sixers very championship worthy.

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His analytics aren't very good, but I love Maxi Kleber as a stretch big along Ben & Joel or either individually. Not crazy on THJ, but that's a trade that's hard to decline