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Trade Talk (Part Five)

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Re: Trade Talk (Part Five) 

Post#1801 » by Note30 » Thu Jan 28, 2021 4:24 am

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Domejandro wrote:This is a trade thread, move the conversation elsewhere, or drop it.

Mod text aside, let's stop flooding different threads with the same conversation over and over.


I just realized you're a mod! I'm guessing it's been a while but, cool man!

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Re: Trade Talk (Part Five) 

Post#1802 » by m2002brian » Thu Jan 28, 2021 5:12 am

Out:
Glen Taylor
Ryan Saunders
Gerson Rosas

In:
1 bag of Doritos
12 bottles of beer
1 pale of Ice Cream
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Re: Trade Talk (Part Five) 

Post#1803 » by Note30 » Thu Jan 28, 2021 5:37 am

m2002brian wrote:Out:
Glen Taylor
Ryan Saunders
Gerson Rosas

In:
1 bag of Doritos
12 bottles of beer
1 pale of Ice Cream


You missed the flamin hot cheetos.
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Re: Trade Talk (Part Five) 

Post#1804 » by Jedzz » Thu Jan 28, 2021 5:46 am

Trade Rubio for a... what exactly?
Can we get JJ back? Expires and lose that trade value chip.
Maybe trade him for those Knicks PGs - Ntilikina and DSJ and take back a 5.5 TPE? Cut those two free cleaning up logjam.

it kind of pains me to suggest trading him again. But this situation here appears to have completely broke him now at least currently, no? Rubio's biggest fans are voodoo dollying me right now for sendind Rubio back to Thibs.
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Re: Trade Talk (Part Five) 

Post#1805 » by JMAC3 » Thu Jan 28, 2021 7:47 pm

Crazy that you have the 8th highest salary committed next year and going to be up against the Lux Tax line without bringing anyone else in. Is there any interest in dealing away someone like Rubio, Beasley, Hernangomez, Culver to clear up a little breathing room? I would assume mainly expiring contracts back would make sense to accomplish that.

I know that Golden State likely owns your pick, so just from that standpoint I am sure ownership would be okay dealing those guys for some non-lottery firsts, but I could be wrong.
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Re: Trade Talk (Part Five) 

Post#1806 » by Klomp » Thu Jan 28, 2021 8:11 pm

JMAC3 wrote:Crazy that you have the 8th highest salary committed next year and going to be up against the Lux Tax line without bringing anyone else in. Is there any interest in dealing away someone like Rubio, Beasley, Hernangomez, Culver to clear up a little breathing room? I would assume mainly expiring contracts back would make sense to accomplish that.

I know that Golden State likely owns your pick, so just from that standpoint I am sure ownership would be okay dealing those guys for some non-lottery firsts, but I could be wrong.
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About $5 million under the lux tax line, with 12 under contract. This does not include RFA Vanderbilt. Moves WILL be made at the deadline, I'd put money on that.
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Re: Trade Talk (Part Five) 

Post#1807 » by Jedzz » Thu Jan 28, 2021 11:54 pm

LaVine still at 27pts on 18 shots, 5.2 RPG, 5.3 APG, 1.9 Stocks through 17 games

How about figuring out a trade with Bulls to benefit both teams. Be willing to give up our young assets, maybe they might even find Rubio useful, something. Even if we had to move Beasley, I think getting LaVine back would be a boon to Towns enjoyment and ours and look guys, we could use someone steadily capable of 25 here. Beasley on the court has been all business and you can't ask for much more then he's offering. But I think this team needs to return to being fun a little bit if it's going to take longer yet to really put something together. Maybe he's not required to get something done. Right a past wrong in the process. Maybe we can get him and a big or something. Maybe they would even give up Patrick for one of or a combination of our young players, better aligning our roster, or just one of their centers.

Any interest? Both teams are going to struggle to take a step unless they go for better roster alignment. If players Wolves have could help them with that anyway.
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Re: Trade Talk (Part Five) 

Post#1808 » by IceManBK1 » Fri Jan 29, 2021 1:05 am

https://www.google.com/amp/s/syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/2928697-knicks-trade-ideas-to-capitalize-on-julius-randles-rising-stock.amp.html

I'd do Culver, Rubio and late 1st for randle and knox. Let Vanderbilt come off the bench for defense.
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Re: Trade Talk (Part Five) 

Post#1809 » by Calinks » Fri Jan 29, 2021 1:20 am

Bring me a PF and two shooters with roughly 5+ years in the league each. All I ask.
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Re: Trade Talk (Part Five) 

Post#1810 » by Slim Tubby » Fri Jan 29, 2021 5:17 am

m2002brian wrote:Out:
Glen Taylor
Ryan Saunders
Gerson Rosas

In:
1 bag of Doritos
12 bottles of beer
1 pale of Ice Cream

There’s no way they’re including a pail of ice cream for that return.


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Re: Trade Talk (Part Five) 

Post#1811 » by Norseman79 » Sat Jan 30, 2021 2:39 pm

Knicks in: Russell, Okoge
Out: 2021 first, Knox, Smith Jr., Ntilikina

Wolves in: Knicks 1rst, Knox, Smith Jr, Ntilikina
Out: Russell and Okoge

Knicks should make the playoffs with that barring injury, we at the least get a 1 in the draft and shed salary.
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Re: Trade Talk (Part Five) 

Post#1812 » by Domejandro » Sat Jan 30, 2021 2:59 pm

Norseman79 wrote:Knicks in: Russell, Okoge
Out: 2021 first, Knox, Smith Jr., Ntilikina

Wolves in: Knicks 1rst, Knox, Smith Jr, Ntilikina
Out: Russell and Okoge

Knicks should make the playoffs with that barring injury, we at the least get a 1 in the draft and shed salary.

Take out Knox and Okogie, add in Jake Layman, and I would do it. Pick negotiations would need to happen, but that is roughly the trade I would do.
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Re: Trade Talk (Part Five) 

Post#1813 » by Norseman79 » Sat Jan 30, 2021 3:27 pm

Domejandro wrote:
Norseman79 wrote:Knicks in: Russell, Okoge
Out: 2021 first, Knox, Smith Jr., Ntilikina

Wolves in: Knicks 1rst, Knox, Smith Jr, Ntilikina
Out: Russell and Okoge

Knicks should make the playoffs with that barring injury, we at the least get a 1 in the draft and shed salary.

Take out Knox and Okogie, add in Jake Layman, and I would do it. Pick negotiations would need to happen, but that is roughly the trade I would do.


I used Knox as a salary fill, though I do like him as a SF. He isn't a deal breaker to me.

The reason I included Okoge is Thibs. I believe Thibs drafted him and he fits a need for the Knicks. Our primary goal here is getting an unprotected 1. We have no reason to keep Okoge, he doesn't move the needle and he is about to make more money.

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Re: Trade Talk (Part Five) 

Post#1814 » by Shaka_Zulu » Sat Jan 30, 2021 6:10 pm

Jedzz wrote:
Shaka_Zulu wrote:Under no circumstances should Dlo ever be compared to Steph friggin Curry.



End of.



So the point was to imagine Curry instead in Dlo's position here. Dealing with much more then a simple loss of Thompson dragging down Curry's efficiency. Here he would have to contest with his own players for his very role as PG. Here his fans would chew on his butt all night long for calling his own number too much. Here they would want Rubio and Edwards running point instead. What then would you expect Curry's efficiency and production to be here playing with these idiots who it often makes no sense to pass to? This is a suggestion to think with some perspective.


Have you watched Curry play?


Legit question, not being facetious, but this post is utterly shocking.


Dlo has NOTHING in common with Curry. Curry is lethal sport defining offensive system. He can chuck with bad efficiency in spurts as much as he likes, because they know and everyone knows, he is lethal historic assassin that can destroy you for an entire quarter.


Dlo is a mindless mid range chucker who could care less to add anything else to help you win.


I been with you throughout in explaining or sticking up for Dlo for not being as bad as people say (tho still poor impact even in best case scenarios). But this Curry narrative you are pushing is truly jump the shark moment.
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Re: Trade Talk (Part Five) 

Post#1815 » by Shaka_Zulu » Sat Jan 30, 2021 6:11 pm

Note30 wrote:
Jedzz wrote:
Note30 wrote:
bUt mErC yOuRE nOt bEiNg oBjECTIve


I'm always trying to be objective on players. But I'm not about posters. Some are just random pieces of


You compared Steph to DLo. A two time unanimous NBA MVP, 3x Champion, Multiple All Firsts to a guy who had made one all star experience (maybe)?

And said they were somewhat similar because of stats. I'm just saying my dude you're definitely a little on your own here.
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Re: Trade Talk (Part Five) 

Post#1816 » by Shaka_Zulu » Sat Jan 30, 2021 6:12 pm

Domejandro wrote:This is a trade thread, move the conversation elsewhere, or drop it.

Mod text aside, let's stop flooding different threads with the same conversation over and over.
Sorry about above couple posts. Was before I saw this.
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Re: Trade Talk (Part Five) 

Post#1817 » by Jedzz » Sat Jan 30, 2021 6:17 pm

Norseman79 wrote:
Domejandro wrote:
Norseman79 wrote:Knicks in: Russell, Okoge
Out: 2021 first, Knox, Smith Jr., Ntilikina

Wolves in: Knicks 1rst, Knox, Smith Jr, Ntilikina
Out: Russell and Okoge

Knicks should make the playoffs with that barring injury, we at the least get a 1 in the draft and shed salary.

Take out Knox and Okogie, add in Jake Layman, and I would do it. Pick negotiations would need to happen, but that is roughly the trade I would do.


I used Knox as a salary fill, though I do like him as a SF. He isn't a deal breaker to me.

The reason I included Okoge is Thibs. I believe Thibs drafted him and he fits a need for the Knicks. Our primary goal here is getting an unprotected 1. We have no reason to keep Okoge, he doesn't move the needle and he is about to make more money.

****As long as DLo is going out and a 1 is coming back, I am in.****


Are you sure the Knicks and Thibs aren't focused on getting LaVine?

It really astounds me how badly people here want a 2021 frp. It seems they will die if they don't have their draft excitement.

Now we also want to shed salary for capspace again. Because they can fill it with...Nothing

Has everyone forgot how much better this was looking last spring?

One offseason of mistakes, one offseason of people getting hypnotized by draft hype, draft values, all because we had another #1 overall. Are you expecting a third? Will that one amaze?

If you are making trades, the team has to start trading for players that can shoot or they just shouldn't trade. Has Rosas not moved enough empty pieces in and out for you yet? Getting a FRP doesn't secure you a useful player. For this team the odds seem like winning a real lottery.

The goal should be to not waste what was started last spring. They should be willingg to move Edwards or whichever young asset can bring in a usable pro that can at least be average shooter here, preferebly a forward with size and a shot. Maybe from a team looking for more youngsters who is actually on a longer trajectory. Instead of trying to turn this team into yet another longterm kids group. I would prefer the ages start to stay above 24 and they build this thing like was originally planned. Anyone remember "the timeline" you pushed so hard?
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Re: Trade Talk (Part Five) 

Post#1818 » by IceManBK1 » Sat Jan 30, 2021 6:32 pm

Lavine, Lauri, and Thad young for Edwards, Rubio, Huancho. Fair enough trade?

Dlo
Lavine
Young
Lauri
Towns
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Re: Trade Talk (Part Five) 

Post#1819 » by IceManBK1 » Sat Jan 30, 2021 6:35 pm

I'd like to see dlo reunited with randle and play with couple good PnR defensive bigs like Mitchell and Noel. So maybe RJ Barett for Dlo?
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Re: Trade Talk (Part Five) 

Post#1820 » by Shaka_Zulu » Sat Jan 30, 2021 6:49 pm

IceManBK1 wrote:Lavine, Lauri, and Thad young for Edwards, Rubio, Huancho. Fair enough trade?

Dlo
Lavine
Young
Lauri
Towns
Not fair. We robbing them blind here.

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