Gonzaga prospects thread 2021
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this Gonzaga team might be the best collegiate team I've seen since I been watching the NCAA, can't remember a more dominant one, maybe the Anthony Davis UK team that's about it?
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Where usually with college kids we have to keep in mind that they will get better spacing with their NBA teams & look better at the next level, with this Gonzaga team do we worry at all that Suggs/Kispert (in particular) are looking better than they will on a low lottery team?
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cgf wrote:Where usually with college kids we have to keep in mind that they will get better spacing with their NBA teams & look better at the next level, with this Gonzaga team do we worry at all that Suggs/Kispert (in particular) are looking better than they will on a low lottery team?
Not to criticise Suggs too much (he’s a stud), but put him on OK State and Cade on this Gonzaga team and there’d be none of this Suggs at number 1 nonsense. Cade would be the unanimous number 1 if he was on this team.
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crows2 wrote:cgf wrote:Where usually with college kids we have to keep in mind that they will get better spacing with their NBA teams & look better at the next level, with this Gonzaga team do we worry at all that Suggs/Kispert (in particular) are looking better than they will on a low lottery team?
Not to criticise Suggs too much (he’s a stud), but put him on OK State and Cade on this Gonzaga team and there’d be none of this Suggs at number 1 nonsense. Cade would be the unanimous number 1 if he was on this team.
Not sure Suggs will end up in my top 5.
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Man I really feel bad for the bench players at Gonzaga. If you're not a starting 5 caliber player, don't go there. Even in a 30 point blowout Mark Few is only playing a 8 man rotation. Don't understand why Zakharov and Arlauskas didn't transfer. They're not gonna see playing time next year either
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So for Suggs it seems clear to me his vision and athleticism are going to translate. I think there's still at least some questions when it comes to his ability as a finisher (and as a shooter but I'm more optimistic there). I kinda worry about his craft around the rim and his habit of being a two foot leaper in times where one foot would help him considerably when it comes to angles and exploding through contact. He's definitely shown that ability as well but it's just weird when he kills his dribble underneath the rim to allow the defense to load up around him. I've heard he was something like a 28% 3pt shooter at Minnehaha but just eye test on his college 3pt attempts relieve a lot of concern about him as a shooter. It's very quick and compact now. That corner step back against Iowa (and basically that whole game) showed what he's actually capable of when he's feeling himself.
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I think Billups is the closest comp, they are different physically and I think Suggs' ceiling is higher, but Billups with some Roy in there would be my comp
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Suggs is Brogdon with a better athletic profile
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There's just something about Jalen Suggs that I'm drawn to. There's a smoothness to his game that not many college prospects have.
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Klomp wrote:There's just something about Jalen Suggs that I'm drawn to. There's a smoothness to his game that not many college prospects have.
I agree and feel the same way. I think it's because of his feel for the game and the advanced footwork that we normally don't see(even from some NBA guards).
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Elite competitiveness, reaction speed and bball iq to go along with good vision. I have questions on his scoring upside but other than that he is can't miss. Super glue guy/leader with potential to possibly improve his scoring to be a #2 option.
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Am I crazy to think he rushes things relying on his athletisisim? He remunds me of Westbrook.
Am I way off? Ive only ween the game agsinst Auburn.
Do people think he'll be a championship caliber PG? (As far as IQ for the game)
Am I way off? Ive only ween the game agsinst Auburn.
Do people think he'll be a championship caliber PG? (As far as IQ for the game)
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I have not yet seen Green or Kuminga. At the college level, I think Suggs is the best NBA prospect, including Mobley and Cunningham. The aggressiveness attacking and under control play at his age, coupled with his elite athleticism make a cut above the others imo. He finds open teammates and sports a remarkably quick first step. You also can't argue with the results - Gonzaga is the best NCAA team in maybe a decade or two. 90+ ppg is absurd.
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clyde21 wrote:this Gonzaga team might be the best collegiate team I've seen since I been watching the NCAA, can't remember a more dominant one, maybe the Anthony Davis UK team that's about it?
I’d take 18’ Nova over both those teams.
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This year's Nova has a shot to knock them off. They will have to shoot lights out though. So far, this year's team is not shooting at the same level as they were in 2018.
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How good is Kispert? More than just a Korver shooter? Jazz Bogdanovic? Will he be destroyed on D?
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Chi town wrote:How good is Kispert? More than just a Korver shooter? Jazz Bogdanovic? Will he be destroyed on D?
Bojan seems like a decent comp. 6'7" movement shooter and can play a little out of pnr whether it's getting to his shot when guys go under or passing out of it. Not the type of NBA explosion where he's gonna create passing angles by beating guys off the dribble but is effective given his size to see over the top and his shooting ability. When it comes to his defense I think he's a little leaner/nimbler than someone like McDermott was at Creighton so I trust his ability to move laterally and defend on the perimeter enough that I don't think he's someone who's gonna get exploited when he's inevitably head hunted by opposing star players. He's someone I could see getting exchanged late in games for offense/defense but I think he'd see the floor in crunch time scenarios and in the playoffs without any real problem.
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jman3134 wrote:I have not yet seen Green or Kuminga. At the college level, I think Suggs is the best NBA prospect, including Mobley and Cunningham. The aggressiveness attacking and under control play at his age, coupled with his elite athleticism make a cut above the others imo. He finds open teammates and sports a remarkably quick first step. You also can't argue with the results - Gonzaga is the best NCAA team in maybe a decade or two. 90+ ppg is absurd.
He just seems so well-rounded and positionally should be a fairly smooth transition to the next level because it's a guard's league now.
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Heard Mike Schmitz bring up Jrue Holiday's name, I think that's a pretty good mold for Suggs.
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