T&T board top 10 worst contracts - Vote for #1

Post #21 » by **zimpy27** » Sat Jan 30, 2021 10:09 am

Yeah I see Wall as worse than Westbrook. I think Westbrook improves his numbers this season.

Would have voted Klay if he was on here though

basketballwacko2 · Post #22 » by **basketballwacko2** » Sat Jan 30, 2021 10:47 am

I'll vote for Westy, he's a mess.

2nd is Kevin Love. But there are a lot of close 3rds right behind him.

pipfan · Post #23 » by **pipfan** » Sat Jan 30, 2021 11:34 am

Westbrook is the guy here
Nominate Klay as well

LloydFree · Post #24 » by **LloydFree** » Sat Jan 30, 2021 11:40 am

Top 10 worst contracts
1. Kevin Love
2. Westbrook
3. Wiggins
4. Porzingis
5. B. Griffin
6. J. Wall
7. M. Fultz
8. J. Isaac
9. Horford
10.H. Barnes

orlando_joe · Post #25 » by **orlando_joe** » Sat Jan 30, 2021 12:36 pm

westbrook
klay

Mr Loggins · Post #26 » by **Mr Loggins** » Sat Jan 30, 2021 12:40 pm

westbrook.

nominate klove

daoneandonly · Post #27 » by **daoneandonly** » Sat Jan 30, 2021 12:41 pm

Vote Russ, nominate Dwight Powell.

Both guys are about energy and bringing it, but neither deserve their respective contracts. Russ can put down triple doubles, but he's a big reason his teams fall short. Dwight Powell is more suited to be a motivational speaker than an NBA player

LloydFree · Post #28 » by **LloydFree** » Sat Jan 30, 2021 12:47 pm

daoneandonly wrote:Vote Russ, nominate Dwight Powell.

Both guys are about energy and bringing it, but neither deserve their respective contracts. Russ can put down triple doubles, but he's a big reason his teams fall short. Dwight Powell is more suited to be a motivational speaker than an NBA player

Dwight Powell makes 11 million per year. Less than 9% of the salary cap. There are teams that have that much in stretched, dead money. Powell plays on the same team as Kristaps Porzingis, who makes 30m+, for the next 4 years.

You got the wrong MAV

Mike lorenzo · Post #29 » by **Mike lorenzo** » Sat Jan 30, 2021 1:10 pm

LloydFree wrote:
daoneandonly wrote:Vote Russ, nominate Dwight Powell.

Both guys are about energy and bringing it, but neither deserve their respective contracts. Russ can put down triple doubles, but he's a big reason his teams fall short. Dwight Powell is more suited to be a motivational speaker than an NBA player

Dwight Powell makes 11 million per year. Less than 9% of the salary cap. There are teams that have that much in stretched, dead money. Powell plays on the same team as Kristaps Porzingis, who makes 30m+, for the next 4 years.

You got the wrong MAV

KP is a recent 25 year old Allstart, coming back slow (like the year before) from an injury ... many questions ... yes ... extraordinarily early to qualify here (in my opinion) .. surprised to see Isaak repeatedly..would take it for Mavs every day ... edit..I also saw Hayward, !!! I would personally be delighted to take him and his contract.
Westbrook
Love
Gordon
Blake
Wall
Wiggins
Klay
Russell

VDT · Post #30 » by **VDT** » Sat Jan 30, 2021 2:24 pm

Lol It is actually hard to decide as you could make am argument for most of these guys.

Westbrook is probably the worst with how he actually sabotages your team just by being himself.

I dont think Horford belongs in this list. Klay Thomson should have been on the list in his stead.

shrink · Post #31 » by **shrink** » Sat Jan 30, 2021 2:42 pm

Vote: Klay Thompson (write-in)
Nominate: Klay Thompson

This year, guaranteed zero production for $35.4 mil. The next three years, for an additional $122 mil ... who knows?

daoneandonly · Post #32 » by **daoneandonly** » Sat Jan 30, 2021 2:57 pm

Mike lorenzo wrote:
LloydFree wrote:
daoneandonly wrote:Vote Russ, nominate Dwight Powell.

Both guys are about energy and bringing it, but neither deserve their respective contracts. Russ can put down triple doubles, but he's a big reason his teams fall short. Dwight Powell is more suited to be a motivational speaker than an NBA player

Dwight Powell makes 11 million per year. Less than 9% of the salary cap. There are teams that have that much in stretched, dead money. Powell plays on the same team as Kristaps Porzingis, who makes 30m+, for the next 4 years.

You got the wrong MAV
KP is a recent 25 year old Allstart, coming back slow (like the year before) from an injury ... many questions ... yes ... extraordinarily early to qualify here (in my opinion) .. surprised to see Isaak repeatedly..would take it for Mavs every day ... edit..I also saw Hayward, !!! I would personally be delighted to take him and his contract.
Westbrook
Love
Gordon
Blake
Wall
Wiggins
Klay
Russell

While KP does look bad now, he's proven to be all star level talent and there are teams I'm sure that would be willing to trade for him. No team in the league would trade for Powell, that's the definition of a bad/worst contract

LloydFree · Post #33 » by **LloydFree** » Sat Jan 30, 2021 3:22 pm

LloydFree wrote:Top 10 worst contracts
1. Kevin Love
2. Westbrook
3. Wiggins
4. Porzingis
5. B. Griffin
6. J. Wall
7. M. Fultz
8. J. Isaac
9. Horford
10.H. Barnes

I totally forgot Kemba Walker. He fits in somewhere between #5-10.

K_chile22 · Post #34 » by **K_chile22** » Sat Jan 30, 2021 4:01 pm

righterwriter wrote:
K_chile22 wrote:I'm shocked Klay isn't on here. I would pick him if he were. Who knows how long it will take him to get back on the floor. He's the same age as wall, 4 year max left counting this season. I think he should be the runaway winner here.

I'd vote Westbrook of the guys here. It's him, Wall, Wiggins and Dlo for me. More expensive than Wiggins and Dlo and he's been worse than Wall, and two years older.

Kevin Durant coming back so strong post-achilles means you gotta suspend judging Klay's contract to be bad, imo.

Worst contracts (in order):

- Westbrook (we all agree)
- Kevin Love (old, oft injured)
- Porzingis (the most important ability is availability...he's proven he can't stay on the court so $30M/yr for the next four years for 40-50 games a year is terrible)
- Horford (old, oft injured)
- John Wall (oft injured and lost a step, takes like 40% of the cap)
- B.Griffin (would be higher up, but only two years left)
- Davis Bertans (turning some inflated, shortened season stats into $16M/yr@ 5years is ridiculous)
- D.Russell (high usage failure, no defense)
- Wiggins ($30M/yr for 18ppg and good defense is about $10M too much)
- Draymond ($25m/yr needs to get you more production, no matter how good he is at defense and leadership)
- Kemba Walker ($36M/yr@3 more years for an undersized 30 yr old PG that shoots too much is not good)
- S.Adams (not as highly paid, but his role on a winning team for $20M/yr is nonexistent)

Honorable mention/guys to watch: Siakam (horrible value at $30M/yr so far), Derrick White (average player getting $68M@4yrs), Buddy Hield (SGs who shoot under 40% doesn't cut it).

KD and Wall both look great post Achilles but took almost two calendar years away from basketball. If klay does that you're spending $70M on 0 production.

Edit: OK more like a year and a half but the point stands

Nate the Great · Post #35 » by **Nate the Great** » Sat Jan 30, 2021 4:14 pm

Vote Westbrook
Nominate Porzingis

Post #36 » by **VCfor3** » Sat Jan 30, 2021 4:15 pm

Vote RW though he could definitely turn it around. Was playing decent until the ejection last game.
Nominate Gobert for Smurf (Actually nominate Klay)

Post #37 » by **Texas Chuck** » Sat Jan 30, 2021 4:16 pm

K_chile22 wrote:KD and Wall both look great post Achilles but took almost two calendar years away from basketball. If klay does that you're spending $70M on 0 production.

Edit: OK more like a year and a half but the point stands

And just no reason to cherry pick those guys when we have so many examples of guys who were never remotely the same. I hope Klay can come back and resume his career and be 85% of what he once was, but just zero chance I'm assuming that today.

Dr Positivity · Post #38 » by **Dr Positivity** » Sat Jan 30, 2021 7:57 pm

Runaway for Westbrook and Klay but I'll leave it open for people to participate

eminence · Post #39 » by **eminence** » Sat Jan 30, 2021 8:56 pm

Vote: Wall (very narrowly over Westbrook)

Nominate: Klay - would've voted for him here if he'd been on the ballot

Jack Dempsey · Post #40 » by **Jack Dempsey** » Sat Jan 30, 2021 9:49 pm

It's easily Russell Westbrook
None of the other guys is that toxic and makes his Team that much worse.