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Game 18: Phoenix Suns (9-8) @ Dallas Mavericks (8-11), Jan 30, Saturday, 7:00 PM

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Game 18: Phoenix Suns (9-8) @ Dallas Mavericks (8-11), Jan 30, Saturday, 7:00 PM 

Post#1 » by Saberestar » Sat Jan 30, 2021 7:53 pm

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Post#2 » by sunsbg » Sat Jan 30, 2021 8:52 pm

The Mavs will be very motivated to get out of their slump with most of the players back now. THJ will probably have today the one of three games he looks like a star and hit everything. Doncic 15fta minimum. They are slight favorites according to the bookies as well. Putting a small bet on Mavs win to jinx them.
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Post#3 » by Revived » Sat Jan 30, 2021 9:49 pm

Mavs are a team that’s actually better than their record. I disagreed when the same was said about teams like Wizards, Raptors, Pistons, Thunder etc but it definitely applies to the Mavs.

Opposing bigs have gone off against the Mavs this season. They gave up a big game to Gobert yesterday and even washed up Cousins had like 28 and 15 against them which was his best game in like 3 years I think.

Hopefully Monty realizes this and features Ayton instead of putting up like 40 3pt attempts today. And more importantly hopefully Ayton realizes this and plays aggressive like he did against Denver.

We could’ve won this even without Book but I think not having Payne and Saric hurts us quite a bit. Thinking the game will be similar to the Nuggets games from last weekend.
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Post#4 » by bwgood77 » Sat Jan 30, 2021 10:48 pm

I am afraid the Mavs come out strong against the Suns and felt maybe Richardson and some others coming back from COVID were just rusty in their last one after being off more than a week. It happened when the Suns had a week off and then came back rusty.

I don't like playing teams desperate for a win. Also, the Suns finally started clicking without Booker who has been out, and they play better without one of Paul or Booker on the floor and bad with them together. Booker and Saric I think should be back but I worry about rustiness.

Their last game they had more ball movement and motion than in any game, but I fear with Booker back, and all his iso, it makes other players watch and feel less engaged in the game.

Edit: Posted this before reading Revived's above, but pretty much agree. Obviously they are much better than their record and how they have been playing. They were missing most of their starters for over a week.
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Post#6 » by Saberestar » Sat Jan 30, 2021 10:57 pm

bwgood77 wrote:I am afraid the Mavs come out strong against the Suns and felt maybe Richardson and some others coming back from COVID were just rusty in their last one after being off more than a week. It happened when the Suns had a week off and then came back rusty.

I don't like playing teams desperate for a win. Also, the Suns finally started clicking without Booker who has been out, and they play better without one of Paul or Booker on the floor and bad with them together. Booker and Saric I think should be back but I worry about rustiness.

Their last game they had more ball movement and motion than in any game, but I fear with Booker back, and all his iso, it makes other players watch and feel less engaged in the game.

Edit: Posted this before reading Revived's above, but pretty much agree. Obviously they are much better than their record and how they have been playing. They were missing most of their starters for over a week.

Booker, Payne and Saric are out.
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Post#7 » by bwgood77 » Sat Jan 30, 2021 11:06 pm

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bwgood77 wrote:I am afraid the Mavs come out strong against the Suns and felt maybe Richardson and some others coming back from COVID were just rusty in their last one after being off more than a week. It happened when the Suns had a week off and then came back rusty.

I don't like playing teams desperate for a win. Also, the Suns finally started clicking without Booker who has been out, and they play better without one of Paul or Booker on the floor and bad with them together. Booker and Saric I think should be back but I worry about rustiness.

Their last game they had more ball movement and motion than in any game, but I fear with Booker back, and all his iso, it makes other players watch and feel less engaged in the game.

Edit: Posted this before reading Revived's above, but pretty much agree. Obviously they are much better than their record and how they have been playing. They were missing most of their starters for over a week.

Booker, Payne and Saric are out.


Damn..in a way I think missing Payne and Saric our worse. We just don't have that good bench ball handler and playing Kaminsky is just scary, especially against a team with size like Dallas.

However, I did love the motion last game and the entire team being engaged. Missing Booker hurts, but it seems all the other starters are better and the team is more balanced, making us less predictable, while giving guys like Bridges and Ayton more of a chance to step up on offense, and both are more efficient than Book this year. Cam and Crowder are more involved as well.

And of course our defense is MUCH better for the starting unit. I would say it hurts down the stretch not having another closer, but I don't really think that either as the whole team will stay engaged down the stretch instead of standing around watching and then getting MAYBE, if Booker is trapped, getting a surprise bad pass with 3 seconds on the shot clock.
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Post#9 » by Jesus_H_Macy » Sun Jan 31, 2021 1:38 am

Looking forward to a good game. Took a break from the board last game to spare everyone some negativity but we finally played well. Hope they keep the momentum going and don’t get too jack-happy. With the Zinger out we should feature Ayton heavily and early to make sure he gets engaged right off the bat. I’m sure Bridges will have the initial Luka assignment, but I would like to see some Crowder and maybe even Ayton on him too to mix things up and prevent him from getting comfortable. I think Crowder and Ayton have the strength to slow him down near the basket better than Bridges will.


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Post#10 » by Barkley6 » Sun Jan 31, 2021 1:51 am

Jesus_H_Macy wrote:Looking forward to a good game. Took a break from the board last game to spare everyone some negativity but we finally played well. Hope they keep the momentum going and don’t get too jack-happy. With the Zinger out we should feature Ayton heavily and early to make sure he gets engaged right off the bat. I’m sure Bridges will have the initial Luka assignment, but I would like to see some Crowder and maybe even Ayton on him too to mix things up and prevent him from getting comfortable. I think Crowder and Ayton have the strength to slow him down near the basket better than Bridges will.


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I think the key to Luka control is limiting his FT attempts. I think you try to turn him into a 3pt shooter as much as possible, sag off and don't let him drive. He's a pretty bad 3pt shooter (30%), so unless he has an amazing night, you're probably going to be ok.

The problem is that when he starts making it a parade to the line, and can score easy buckets with the clock stopped that he hurts you.
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Ugh... She’s the worst man...her commentary is so boring and bland. I want to like her but she makes it so hard. To her credit she does seem a little more lively this season than in the past, but she’s gonna need to move the needle a lot more than that before I stop sighing whenever I hear she’s on that night’s game
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Post#14 » by bwgood77 » Sun Jan 31, 2021 2:07 am

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Jesus_H_Macy wrote:Looking forward to a good game. Took a break from the board last game to spare everyone some negativity but we finally played well. Hope they keep the momentum going and don’t get too jack-happy. With the Zinger out we should feature Ayton heavily and early to make sure he gets engaged right off the bat. I’m sure Bridges will have the initial Luka assignment, but I would like to see some Crowder and maybe even Ayton on him too to mix things up and prevent him from getting comfortable. I think Crowder and Ayton have the strength to slow him down near the basket better than Bridges will.


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I think the key to Luka control is limiting his FT attempts. I think you try to turn him into a 3pt shooter as much as possible, sag off and don't let him drive. He's a pretty bad 3pt shooter (30%), so unless he has an amazing night, you're probably going to be ok.

The problem is that when he starts making it a parade to the line, and can score easy buckets with the clock stopped that he hurts you.


Yeah, that Bridges video I posted in the other thread showed that was their goal in their first game against Luka...well, not to let him drive, even if they had to help on D.
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Post#15 » by Jesus_H_Macy » Sun Jan 31, 2021 2:08 am

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I’m very surprised to hear someone say that... She is obviously very knowledgeable, is that her appeal for you?
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Ugh... She’s the worst man...her commentary is so boring and bland. I want to like her but she makes it so hard. To her credit she does seem a little more lively this season than in the past, but she’s gonna need to move the needle a lot more than that before I stop sighing whenever I hear she’s on that night’s game


Damn, I will have to switch to the Dallas announcers.
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I’m very surprised to hear someone say that... She is obviously very knowledgeable, is that her appeal for you?


Most of his posts have a bit of sarcasm.
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Post#18 » by Kerrsed » Sun Jan 31, 2021 2:10 am

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Post#19 » by bwgood77 » Sun Jan 31, 2021 2:10 am

Man, the "Big 3" in Houston of Wall, Dipo and Wood are killing it the last couple games. tonight they have 50 points in the first half on 18-27 shooting as they are crushing the Pelicans.
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Post#20 » by Jesus_H_Macy » Sun Jan 31, 2021 2:11 am

bwgood77 wrote:
Jesus_H_Macy wrote:
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Possibly top 15 commentator in the league.


I’m very surprised to hear someone say that... She is obviously very knowledgeable, is that her appeal for you?


Most of his posts have a bit of sarcasm.


:lol: That would explain it then

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