PG: Clippers at Knicks

[knicksNOTslick]

Knox was the odd man out. But if we are just playing Obi as a stretch 4, then you might as well play Knox in that role. Obi is lost in that role

The kid can pop and the kid can roll

Yet we don’t use him as the pick guy most of the time and instead make him play way different than his strengths

I agree. We need to involve Obi more in the offense but he also needs to set better picks, which will get better in time. He really doesn't seem ready yet but I think he'll get there, hopefully by the end of the year he starts putting up numbers.

[Im Coming Home]

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can't forget the 5th.

Thibs starting Payton in the 1st and 2nd half to put us in a hole.

[Chanel Bomber]

You have a better shot with each mavs loss, Knicks are going to win too many games..sorry

Ah, great to hear the Knicks will be picking 12th and 15th. I'm sure they'll land a franchise player there....

That range actually has better success throughout history than 8th. Those 12-15 picks seem to usually land gold

I keep wondering why that happens.

The sample size is too significant, there is a discernible pattern.

The best explanation I can come up with is that teams drafting 7-9 still follow conventional thinking. They continue to draft for a star as if they had a top 5 pick except all the guys with the requisite level of quality are gone.

Teams in the 10-14 range seem to draft for more specific skills like defense and 3P shooting, with the consensus projecting them as role players, when in fact those skills are valuable and give teams something tangible to work with from day 1.

Pandemic thoughts.

[Guano]

too many good things for me to be upset about ls or what mistakes thibs made. i'm just gonna enjoy the ride.

even when we were still winning games with the new and improved randle sht didn't feel right with rj being terrible. now that rj has turned it around the season has a different feel to it. Him developing into a legit piece is pivotal for our chances to be contenders going forward.

add in quick looking like this and you can see a brighter future for once

and the surplus of $ and pics.

knicks have us feeling hope instead of that familiar dread.

[Oscirus]

On one hand starting quickley improves the starting lineup, on the other hand it would absolutely destroy our bench.
We were fine until that one sequence with jackson so im not gonna kill him too much on that fact

[Orange Mamba]

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[thebuzzardman]

You have a better shot with each mavs loss, Knicks are going to win too many games..sorry

Ah, great to hear the Knicks will be picking 12th and 15th. I'm sure they'll land a franchise player there....

And we might have drafted the best player in this draft at 25, what’s your point

Knicks are better off losing. They did, and I'm glad. They need a franchise player. Those are usually found in the draft - higher up. Not always, but most of the time.

[robillionaire]

You have a better shot with each mavs loss, Knicks are going to win too many games..sorry

We’ve lost 4 out of the last 5, we’ll be right there.

We have by far the easiest schedule left in the half (I think 16 games left). Toughest opponent might be Indy. We’re gonna be decent through mid March.

We lost to the kings, thunder, hornets etc. we are going to struggle against the bad teams too.

[whocares1]

Quickley is in a Catch-22

If he plays well, to Thibs that means it's the right move to keep him on the bench

If he plays bad, then that's all the more reason to not start him and in fact is a reason to give him less minutes

Just a lose-lose situation.

I mean he has the keys to the team in the second unit, and he’s a floor spacer and an afterthought on the first unit. RJ, Randle, and Quickley are all most effective with the ball in their hands so for now it’s not crazy to let the kid run the second unit.

[blueNorange]

Knox was the odd man out. But if we are just playing Obi as a stretch 4, then you might as well play Knox in that role. Obi is lost in that role

The kid can pop and the kid can roll

Yet we don’t use him as the pick guy most of the time and instead make him play way different than his strengths

I agree. We need to involve Obi more in the offense but he also needs to set better picks, which will get better in time. He really doesn't seem ready yet but I think he'll get there, hopefully by the end of the year he starts putting up numbers.

every time the knicks get the rebound obi is sprinting down the court, beating everyone, and calling for a pass but never gets the ball.

today he literally showed up rivers because he missed him.

[Oscirus]

Ah, great to hear the Knicks will be picking 12th and 15th. I'm sure they'll land a franchise player there....

That range actually has better success throughout history than 8th. Those 12-15 picks seem to usually land gold

I keep wondering why that happens.

The same size is too significant, there is a discernible pattern.

The best explanation I can come up with is that teams drafting 7-9 still follow conventional thinking. They continue to draft for a star as if they had a top 5 pick except all the guys with the requisite level of quality are gone.

Teams in the 10-14 range seem to draft for more specific skills like defense and 3-point shooting, with the consensus projecting them as role players, when in fact those skills are valuable and give teams something tangible to work with from day 1.

Pandemic thoughts.

from 10-14 you're able to swing from the fences a bit more while 7-9 tends to be players not good enough to be elite but also not a spot where you can legit take a risk without making people go

[robillionaire]

On one hand starting quickley improves the starting lineup, on the other hand it would absolutely destroy our bench.
We were fine until that one sequence with jackson so im not gonna kill him too much on that fact

If Payton was the guy coming off the bench, it would destroy our bench. Payton automatically destroys any lineup he’s inserted in with his terrible skillset. If they made frank backup PG maybe they can salvage something

[Juco24]

The only thing that annoyed me more than watching Elf get torched by bumass Reggie Jackson was watching Reggie stare at his hand for 10 seconds afterwards running down the court. Like bro - you trash stop embarrassing yourself

Payton vs Reggie Jackson flexing and puffing their chests out on 1/369 shooting is the matchup we all came to see.

LMBO

[whocares1]

The kid can pop and the kid can roll

Yet we don’t use him as the pick guy most of the time and instead make him play way different than his strengths

I agree. We need to involve Obi more in the offense but he also needs to set better picks, which will get better in time. He really doesn't seem ready yet but I think he'll get there, hopefully by the end of the year he starts putting up numbers.

every time the knicks get the rebound obi is sprinting down the court, beating everyone, and calling for a pass but never gets the ball.

today he literally showed up rivers because he missed him.

I noticed that Rivers never passes him the ball. Like never. Obi will screen and not get it back. Rivers will see Obi open in the corner and take a contested floater.

[Jeff Van Gully]

too many good things for me to be upset about ls or what mistakes thibs made. i'm just gonna enjoy the ride.

It’s a shame everyone doesn’t feel this way.

i understand because when things are real bad, i'm one of the worst on here. but you got a bunch of young talent playing well, you're competitive with those kids playing a lot, you got extra picks, you got cap space, it aint bad.

Yes, Lawd. Zero pain today. My boys stood tall against a true contender.

[WargamesX]

We’ve lost 4 out of the last 5, we’ll be right there.

We have by far the easiest schedule left in the half (I think 16 games left). Toughest opponent might be Indy. We’re gonna be decent through mid March.

We lost to the kings, thunder, hornets etc. we are going to struggle against the bad teams too.

Yep, we still aren’t there. Especially talent wise, some of those crap teams have more talent and if they put effort in those games will be competitive. The kings being a great example. They suck but woke up for us and we had a tough game we then loss.

This summer between all our assets we should be able to make up that loss ground

[RHODEY]

Ah, great to hear the Knicks will be picking 12th and 15th. I'm sure they'll land a franchise player there....

And we might have drafted the best player in this draft at 25, what’s your point

Knicks are better off losing. They did, and I'm glad. They need a franchise player. Those are usually found in the draft - higher up. Not always, but most of the time.

We'll have 2 chances at a "not always" pick like khawi even if we make the palyoffs.

[TheGreenArrow]

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Lmaoo so true man!!!

Soooo trueeeee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Jeff Van Gully]

The kid can pop and the kid can roll

Yet we don’t use him as the pick guy most of the time and instead make him play way different than his strengths

I agree. We need to involve Obi more in the offense but he also needs to set better picks, which will get better in time. He really doesn't seem ready yet but I think he'll get there, hopefully by the end of the year he starts putting up numbers.

every time the knicks get the rebound obi is sprinting down the court, beating everyone, and calling for a pass but never gets the ball.

today he literally showed up rivers because he missed him.

And you know Thibs wants that transition bucket. They need to do it. Open floor is when Obi is unlocked too.

[Oscirus]

On one hand starting quickley improves the starting lineup, on the other hand it would absolutely destroy our bench.
We were fine until that one sequence with jackson so im not gonna kill him too much on that fact

If Payton was the guy coming off the bench, it would destroy our bench. Payton automatically destroys any lineup he’s inserted in with his terrible skillset. If they made frank backup PG maybe they can salvage something

we'd have the same scoring issues with frank. barring an unforseen improvement with dsj, we're likely not gonna have the scoring off the bench to justify iq being a starter.