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Post#241 » by NyCeEvO » Mon Feb 1, 2021 2:48 am

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Whiskey Slick wrote:Why didn't the Nets call a T,O, after Beal hit the 3?

Why franticly inbound the ball under their own basket like they were out of timeouts?

Because our coach is OVERRATED. I have been said he is WAY in over his head. He is.


How you over rate rookie coach who's only few months into this gig :D

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Post#242 » by GTR11 » Mon Feb 1, 2021 2:48 am

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vincecarter4pres wrote:Shamet should have been in.


If it was up to me, I'd leave Shamet in DC. No one been worst than him.


He played good tonight


He was huge part of the reason why we lost 18pt lead. Did he stink less tonight? maybe, but you can't be really worse than what he was. I bet Shump will eat all their lunch money.

Want to send TLC, Shamet and TJ in Orlando. Get them some rhythm, playing vs bums might help.
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Post#243 » by Shark » Mon Feb 1, 2021 2:49 am

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NetsJets wrote:I’m not even mad to be honest


Same. On to the next one.


Haha I feel the same. What's wrong with us? I should be cursing Joe and TLC right now, but after going 8-2 in the last 10 entering tonight, I think we all know it's gonna be a process to the playoffs. Now if the team somehow puts itself in danger of missing the playoffs, that's an entirely different story.

After the initial sting of this lose I feel the same way. The other thing is that we've actually performed well against last year's playoff teams, so I'm not too worried overall.

There are things here and there that do worry me (TOs, rebounding, defense, Nash's ability to make adjustments on the fly, end of game situations), but I have too many other things in my life to get stressed about than to get stressed over a team that is 13-9 and right in the thick of it in the top half of the ECF standings :lol:
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Post#244 » by Rich Rane » Mon Feb 1, 2021 2:51 am

Also not to pass blame whatsoever, but you have guys on the coaching staff with head coaching experience like D'Antoni and Vaughn. They've also gotta let Nash in on the timeout situation and when to get the players to call one in a situation like that or call one himself with that little time to both advance the ball and put the inbounder in a better situatuon. As a rookie head coach, you gotta hope Nash doesn't make the same mistake again.
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Post#245 » by DarkXaero » Mon Feb 1, 2021 2:51 am

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Post#246 » by HardenGoat » Mon Feb 1, 2021 2:53 am

Unbelievable they didn’t call a timeout. Iam shocked
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Post#247 » by Shark » Mon Feb 1, 2021 2:56 am

Rich Rane wrote:Also not to pass blame whatsoever, but you have guys on the coaching staff with head coaching experience like D'Antoni and Vaughn. They've also gotta let Nash in on the timeout situation and when to get the players to call one in a situation like that or call one himself with that little time to both advance the ball and put the inbounder in a better situatuon. As a rookie head coach, you gotta hope Nash doesn't make the same mistake again.

I wonder just how much they have on Nash's decisions (or non-decisions) in game. Its one of the things that has disappointed me the most so far this season. It really feels like they are being just a bit too hands off with Nash in key situations.
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Post#248 » by Nondescript » Mon Feb 1, 2021 2:58 am

Its moments like this that I pull up a chair near the hot stove and read articles about the upcoming Mets season.
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Post#249 » by NyCeEvO » Mon Feb 1, 2021 2:58 am

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Hello Brooklyn wrote:I can't believe people are downpalying this. These losses add up. We have lost way too many games to bad teams.

We can't keep winning games 140-135. Its not sustainable .

This team has an insane amount of talent and yet plays like garbage. No concept of team defense. You cannot win a Championship this way.


We are 8-3 in the last 11 games, coming off of a 4 game win streak. I'm not going to have a heart attack over this.


We barely won all those games and didn't play a lick of defense. Thats not what contending teams do.

— Shortened preseason
— Main stars returning from season-ending injuries
— Had to reset the jelling process after trading for Harden and trading away our best interior defender

There’s plenty of legitimate reasons why we’re not firing on all cylinders.

We’re signing free agents to help fill in some gaps and we should be a major player in the buyout market.


Plus, contending teams lose to horrible teams all of the time. They’re called trap games for a reason. The good team expects tho win just by showing up and the other team gives max effort, hence the trap.

While I’m disappointed at all of the foolishness that happened tonight, I don’t think it’s a precursor to or a foreshadowing of anything. This happens regularly. Hell, the Lakers got blown out by the Pistons.

On to the next one...
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Post#250 » by DarkXaero » Mon Feb 1, 2021 3:01 am

How are people blaming Nash for Joe Harris blunder? Why should Nash take a timeout there when Joe Harris should first survey the floor for options to pass to, and if there's no one available, THAT'S when you take a timeout...

Instead Joe Harris makes a dumb **** pass to a Wizards player right away, rushing it, even though we have two timeouts left. It's 100% on Joe, and no one else. You don't need to try to rush, especially in a game like where we already **** up couple times before, because Westbrook is always lurking to try to steal the ball. For all our awful defense and everything, this loss comes down to a Joe Harris mistake. TLC also missed an easy layup but that's not as bad as what Joe did.
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Post#251 » by Whiskey Slick » Mon Feb 1, 2021 3:01 am

The Nets were outscored something like 72 to 26 in the paint.

When you see a stat like that it should concern the organization from top to bottom, fans included.

If God gave me just one sports wish, within the realm of reality, I would wish to God for Andre Drummond.

You would never see a team, ANY TEAM or ANY BIG, dominate the paint like that again.
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Post#252 » by Rich Rane » Mon Feb 1, 2021 3:05 am

DarkXaero wrote:How are people blaming Nash for Joe Harris blunder? Why should Nash take a timeout there when Joe Harris should first survey the floor for options to pass to, and if there's no one available, THAT'S when you take a timeout...

Instead Joe Harris makes a dumb **** pass to a Wizards player right away, rushing it, even though we have two timeouts left. It's 100% on Joe, and no one else. You don't need to try to rush, especially in a game like where we already **** up couple times before, because Westbrook is always lurking to try to steal the ball. For all our awful defense and everything, this loss comes down to a Joe Harris mistake. TLC also missed an easy layup but even he gets less blame from me.


Criticizing Nash =/= Joe is blameless

But Wizards took the lead and ran a press. Little time on the clock. One of them has gotta take the timeout.
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Post#253 » by DarkXaero » Mon Feb 1, 2021 3:11 am

Rich Rane wrote:
DarkXaero wrote:How are people blaming Nash for Joe Harris blunder? Why should Nash take a timeout there when Joe Harris should first survey the floor for options to pass to, and if there's no one available, THAT'S when you take a timeout...

Instead Joe Harris makes a dumb **** pass to a Wizards player right away, rushing it, even though we have two timeouts left. It's 100% on Joe, and no one else. You don't need to try to rush, especially in a game like where we already **** up couple times before, because Westbrook is always lurking to try to steal the ball. For all our awful defense and everything, this loss comes down to a Joe Harris mistake. TLC also missed an easy layup but even he gets less blame from me.


Criticizing Nash =/= Joe is blameless

But Wizards took the lead and ran a press. Little time on the clock. One of them has gotta take the timeout.
The inbounder should still survey options before taking a timeout, and if there's no one open, you take one. That's the basics. You don't have to take a timeout right away, before even checking to see what's available. Joe is a NBA veteran at this point and should know better. It's 100% on him.

Also Wizards didn't take the lead, they were still down 2 at that point.
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Post#254 » by Gamezero05 » Mon Feb 1, 2021 3:16 am

NyCeEvO wrote:
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MrDollarBills wrote:
We are 8-3 in the last 11 games, coming off of a 4 game win streak. I'm not going to have a heart attack over this.


We barely won all those games and didn't play a lick of defense. Thats not what contending teams do.

— Shortened preseason
— Main stars returning from season-ending injuries
— Had to reset the jelling process after trading for Harden and trading away our best interior defender

There’s plenty of legitimate reasons why we’re not firing on all cylinders.

We’re signing free agents to help fill in some gaps and we should be a major player in the buyout market.


Plus, contending teams lose to horrible teams all of the time. They’re called trap games for a reason. The good team expects tho win just by showing up and the other team gives max effort, hence the trap.

While I’m disappointed at all of the foolishness that happened tonight, I don’t think it’s a precursor to or a foreshadowing of anything. This happens regularly. Hell, the Lakers got blown out by the Pistons.

On to the next one...
All teams are dealing with a shortened preseason.

The main stars are fine. Their previous injuries clearly aren’t holding them back.

And free agent signings and a buyout player aren’t fixing this defense. Those are depth moves. This team needs major moves to completely overhaul the roster with two way players.

True contenders have a top-10 offense and a top-10 defense. This team isn’t even close.
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Post#255 » by Rich Rane » Mon Feb 1, 2021 3:19 am

DarkXaero wrote:
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DarkXaero wrote:How are people blaming Nash for Joe Harris blunder? Why should Nash take a timeout there when Joe Harris should first survey the floor for options to pass to, and if there's no one available, THAT'S when you take a timeout...

Instead Joe Harris makes a dumb **** pass to a Wizards player right away, rushing it, even though we have two timeouts left. It's 100% on Joe, and no one else. You don't need to try to rush, especially in a game like where we already **** up couple times before, because Westbrook is always lurking to try to steal the ball. For all our awful defense and everything, this loss comes down to a Joe Harris mistake. TLC also missed an easy layup but even he gets less blame from me.


Criticizing Nash =/= Joe is blameless

But Wizards took the lead and ran a press. Little time on the clock. One of them has gotta take the timeout.
The inbounder should still survey options before taking a timeout, and if there's no one open, you take one. That's the basics. You don't have to take a timeout right away, before even checking to see what's available. Joe is a NBA veteran at this point and should know better. It's 100% on him.

Also Wizards didn't take the lead, they were still down 2 at that point.


Ah yeah, you're right being down 2 (I've already moved on from this game). Still though, Nash should've still taken that timeout. Advance the ball, put the inbounder in a better position with a drawn play. Still hope that pass haunts Harris's sleep tonight.
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Post#256 » by CalamityX12 » Mon Feb 1, 2021 4:01 am

Was gonna watch the encore then the espn app spoiled it for me

How are we so horrific on defense???
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Post#257 » by sashaturiaf » Mon Feb 1, 2021 4:24 am

Total lack of effort on defense. The big early lead and the fact Nets could score on tap only exacerbated this. You let teams hang around this is what happens.

If there's a silver lining it's that this is all fixable with effort and health is way more important than regular season wins. The offense will hold up in the playoffs, so rather the D gets played then instead of now.
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Post#258 » by Whiskey Slick » Mon Feb 1, 2021 4:43 am

This one hurt like hell and there's no rationalizing it, but in the long run it can make us a better team.

Half of defense is about effort and if this didn't convince them you can't win with offense alone, nothing will.

Don't be surprised if you see their best defensive effort of the season verses a very good Clippers team.
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Post#259 » by Whiskey Slick » Mon Feb 1, 2021 4:46 am

sashaturiaf wrote:Total lack of effort on defense. The big early lead and the fact Nets could score on tap only exacerbated this. You let teams hang around this is what happens.

If there's a silver lining it's that this is all fixable with effort and health is way more important than regular season wins. The offense will hold up in the playoffs, so rather the D gets played then instead of now.

Uncle Jeff aside, the second unit stunk in the first half. They came in and literally cost us that lead.
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Post#260 » by clo12345 » Mon Feb 1, 2021 4:52 am

KD deserves just as much blame on the last inbounds as anyone. He has a free lane but decides to cut back around the same time Harris feeds him. Just unfortunate. This is a team game but I detest the blaming of our role players and coach over our star players. Especially when they get no touches or say and are asked to deliver in key moments. Something I will miss about the Kenny era.

I was skeptical of the Harden trade mostly because of the picks, but it’s clear how valuable Allen was for us. It might still work out but our interior defense needs to be addressed. And newsflash Shumpert won’t fix it

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