Post Game Thoughts. Cavs.

[coolcono]

They cannot even tank right.

Good- Beasely looks good like always. It seems like he has one cold quarter, but well the other three.
Edwards looked great slashing to the basket. He made a good percentage of his shots.
McDaniels looked good on both ends of the court.

Meh-Russell. His lack of awareness/effort on D was apparent, but maybe his offensive production made up for it, for once?

Bad- The Cavs' bigs seemed so much larger than Wolves' bigs.

Other thoughts- Layman needs to run with Rubio. They play well together.
Even though I don't like Russell's lack of effort on the defensive end, Okogie looks so bad on the offensive side of the ball, that Russell deserves minutes Okogie. Wouldn't it be nice to a decent two way player here?

[Calinks]

Edwards looked like a number 1 pick today. He has a long way to go to live up to the billing but it feels good to see him have a solid game. He actually was able to finish tonight and that makes a world of difference.

Russell looks uncomfortable in our system. I hope KAT can really help him get better, his big shots were huge late.

Beasley has been great, again living up to his contract. I'm happy to have him.

We need more shooters on this team if we refuse to play to players strengths and weaknesses.

[UnFadeable21]

A very good Minnesota Timberwolves team win tonight. Everyone contributed to this much needed win for the organization and fan base.

Anthony Edwards is finally out of his slump and should start the rest of the season. He’s the only guy on this roster who can drive to the hoop with force. He is the future with KAT. The national media has been hyping up Lamelo and Wiseman but ANT has flashed himself and deserves recognition as well.

Malik Beasley continues to bring it every night. This guy plays hard as heck every game and should be in the running for Most Improved Player of the Year. He’s averaging 20+ PPG while playing with maximum effort every game.

Nice bounce back game for Ricky Rubio. He played under control and was the catalyst for the strong bench showing. 8pts & 8 assist and only 1 turnover. This is the Ricky Rubio we all know and love.

Some Quick Hits to Close:

-Strong 4th Quarter from DLo after a lackluster start. Hit some big time 3’s to pull the Wolves ahead.
-Josh Okogie cannot shoot at all. If he wasn’t such a good defender he wouldn’t see the court.
-Jaden McDaniels might be the future 4 Power Forward of this team. He played some excellent defense against Larry Nance and had 3 blocks. He has body type, shooting ability, and defense. He may be our version of Jonathan Isaac which would be a huge plus for us.
-Jaylen Nowell is the Payless Version of Malik Beasley for the bench unit. Nice shooter and ability to score all over the court.

[Klomp]

They cannot even tank right.

They're not tanking period.

[theGreatRC]

My post game thoughts are that this is what we expected from our #1 pick. He needs to start from here on out.

Also, love the two-way potential of Jaden Mcdaniels & Nowell's scoring could keep Culver on the bench even when he comes back.

Beasley is our 2nd best player on the team after KAT, such a consistent scorer and i'm happy he's on our squad

Lastly, if we lose Ed Davis, we are so screwed, we have no one to play C but Vanderbilt who is a 4.

[Dewey]

Inch by inch it appears McDaniels, Vanderbilt, and Nowell should totally push Okogie, Culver, Hernangomez, and Layman to the end of the bench - excluding any bribes. It’s pathetic to open the box score and see two starters (Okogie/Davis) 0-8 ... 2-17 ... or whatever.

[K4P]

Inch by inch it appears McDaniels, Vanderbilt, and Nowell should totally push Okogie, Culver, Hernangomez, and Layman to the end of the bench - excluding any bribes. It’s pathetic to open the box score and see two starters (Okogie/Davis) 0-8 ... 2-17 ... or whatever.

I think Okogie is pretty much a lock as a starter. They don't have a credible perimeter defender without him starting imo

[Jedzz]

Inch by inch it appears McDaniels, Vanderbilt, and Nowell should totally push Okogie, Culver, Hernangomez, and Layman to the end of the bench - excluding any bribes. It’s pathetic to open the box score and see two starters (Okogie/Davis) 0-8 ... 2-17 ... or whatever.

I think Okogie is pretty much a lock as a starter. They don't have a credible perimeter defender without him starting imo

McDaniels is a good defender, game IQ, and has more ways to score.
Nowell is a good game IQ player, excellent 2pt scorer, still off/on about his 3s in nba

Okogie is a nice off bench shot in the arm. Should be anyway.

None are really ready for starting but maybe McDaniels has earned SF placement over Okogie. Okogie missed all two and three attempts this game. But he did draw 6 FT shots and hit 5, highest for team. He's tougher then most going in at net and just wild enough to attract contact and draw those fouls.

Davis ends up highest plus of game at +16 in 22 minutes. Looks like the vet is still doing the dirty work that makes a difference. Somehow Vanderbilt was -11 in 25 minuts. Miss Kat's size.

[Rookie-Mistake]

There is no place for okogie or Culver on this list.
Much prefer to keep Nowell around. He is a solid two way player.

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[Heimdal]

*Anthony Edwards!! Enough said.
*Malik Beasley is such a bargain.
*Kudos to Ed Davis and his hard work.
*Rubio Nowell Layman McDaniels did well together. If Saunders can stabilize rotations, it will do wonders.
*I've always thought Towns should play PF with a big Andre Drummond type protecting the rim, taking the hits, crashing the boards, doing the dirty work. Towns is too finesse, talented, and valuable to make him fight these monsters.

[_AIJ_]

I really hope KAT comes back strong

[Lucamilo23]

I haven’t been as high as many others on Nowell, but he played a pretty good game last night and should continue to see some time. I really enjoy seeing him next to Rubio. He brings much needed scoring next to him, which is needed.

[Shaka_Zulu]

Holy **** that was awesome to watch

[Dewey]

Inch by inch it appears McDaniels, Vanderbilt, and Nowell should totally push Okogie, Culver, Hernangomez, and Layman to the end of the bench - excluding any bribes. It’s pathetic to open the box score and see two starters (Okogie/Davis) 0-8 ... 2-17 ... or whatever.

I think Okogie is pretty much a lock as a starter. They don't have a credible perimeter defender without him starting imo

I've been a big Okogie advovate, but this ship has sailed ... as a role player (alongside an elite big 2 or big 3), then it can serve some purpose. A credible defender is a mere role player - not a starter playing out of position. This is basketball and you must have the ability to score. Seriously, as a starter it's making us look dumber each game. It gets sadder - this undersized/unproductive player also plays out of position. We must stop pounding sand !!

Bottom-line: ZERO reason for Okogie to be starting unless there is a rash of 5-6 injured players

[packforfreedom]

+1

he hasn't improved at all and I don't think his defense is that good to make up for his offense at this point.

[jpatrick]

You know, if you take out the Dlo trade, Rosas has been competent. Thought they’d get Beasley for a cheaper contract, but he’s a really good player and that was a good trade. McDaniels flashes tons of potential and Rosas has made some other good moves on the margins.

Culver isn’t going to go down as a good pick; and I’m still a Ball guy but Edwards has shown enough flashes that I’m excited about him. That DLo trade though. I think Wiggins is the better player. D’Lo is just too limited on both ends while Wiggins, while overpaid, can be productive on both ends in a limited role (see GSW). They both have bad contracts and the odds say we’re giving a top five pick. Don’t know if he can come back from that.

Overall, I like a lot of our young talent. It’s exciting to see them perform well like tonight.

[Dewey]

You know, if you take out the Dlo trade, Rosas has been competent. Thought they’d get Beasley for a cheaper contract, but he’s a really good player and that was a good trade. McDaniels flashes tons of potential and Rosas has made some other good moves on the margins.

Culver isn’t going to go down as a good pick; and I’m still a Ball guy but Edwards has shown enough flashes that I’m excited about him. That DLo trade though. I think Wiggins is the better player. D’Lo is just too limited on both ends while Wiggins, while overpaid, can be productive on both ends in a limited role (see GSW). They both have bad contracts and the odds say we’re giving a top five pick. Don’t know if he can come back from that.

Overall, I like a lot of our young talent. It’s exciting to see them perform well like tonight.

The league needs to stop teams from handing out all these max contracts ... Or allow teams to terminate them.

[Klomp]

You know, if you take out the Dlo trade, Rosas has been competent. Thought they’d get Beasley for a cheaper contract, but he’s a really good player and that was a good trade. McDaniels flashes tons of potential and Rosas has made some other good moves on the margins.

Culver isn’t going to go down as a good pick; and I’m still a Ball guy but Edwards has shown enough flashes that I’m excited about him. That DLo trade though. I think Wiggins is the better player. D’Lo is just too limited on both ends while Wiggins, while overpaid, can be productive on both ends in a limited role (see GSW). They both have bad contracts and the odds say we’re giving a top five pick. Don’t know if he can come back from that.

Overall, I like a lot of our young talent. It’s exciting to see them perform well like tonight.

The league needs to stop teams from handing out all these max contracts ... Or allow teams to terminate them.

Or fans need to understand there are different levels of max contracts.

[Norseman79]

If a team is dumb enough to sign or trade for a Max contract, then it's the teams fault. Players should make as much as they can

[Jedzz]

You know, if you take out the Dlo trade, Rosas has been competent. Thought they’d get Beasley for a cheaper contract, but he’s a really good player and that was a good trade. McDaniels flashes tons of potential and Rosas has made some other good moves on the margins.

Culver isn’t going to go down as a good pick; and I’m still a Ball guy but Edwards has shown enough flashes that I’m excited about him. That DLo trade though. I think Wiggins is the better player. D’Lo is just too limited on both ends while Wiggins, while overpaid, can be productive on both ends in a limited role (see GSW). They both have bad contracts and the odds say we’re giving a top five pick. Don’t know if he can come back from that.

Overall, I like a lot of our young talent. It’s exciting to see them perform well like tonight.

The league needs to stop teams from handing out all these max contracts ... Or allow teams to terminate them.

Or fans need to understand there are different levels of max contracts.

Not sure that has to do with what they are talking about. They are talking in general the full multiyear deals around 30 million and up such as Wiggins/Dlo in their examples.

Teams do need to stop handing these out for just anything or complete prPatrickojections based on former draft analysis. They aren't being handed out blind at draft time, it is coming after they have played for 2 -4 years or more. There should be better understanding what these players are by then.

For instance, when they decided to hand Wiggins a Max and ask him directly about his committment to doing more, did anyone give him an example of what more meant? Seems like it would be pretty easy to find a player example in the league and outline typical stat capabilities, leadership capabilities, and game roles that can show a player what is going to be demanded for such a contract. Maybe the coaches and Taylor didn't talk to him about higher expectations. We don't really know but that is the assumption. Did anyone show him an example of the players with 20-30 double doubles in a season, 5 to even 30 triple doubles in a season? These are your max production players across the league. Wiggins for example might have 2-3 doubles a season, 1 triple double in his career ever. LaMello has 3 this season already. This season 12 players are already in double digits(10-20) on double double games. 17 more players have between 5-9 DD games already this year just 20 games in. That's producing on the upper levels of the league. Wiggins never has gotten even close. 3 DD games in a season and they handed him a Max deal? Why.

As for Patricks take on Wiggins over Dlo. Please tell us when he was going to improve anything while staying here. He wasn't giving us even that tiny extra he's offering there now on defense, not here. He needed the questions about his play becoming publci and the trade as a wake up call and he maybe needed better coaching. But still, right nowI think Wiggins has no double doubles this season. He's still not offering anything substantial for even a high middle of the road vet deal. Though Dlo has at least one Double Double this year, so does Naz Reid. Towns has only played 4 games and he has 4 already. 15 players have at least 1 triple double this season. Some have 5 and 6 TripD games already. LaMello Ball has a TripD already.