What is Jaylen Brown's ceiling?

[TheMartian]

You need to stop quoting him for real, it's beyond comedy at this point. He's literally going to be in the back row of the HOF induction speech murmuring, "Lonzo's better. He shouldn't have passed it."

I legit think he does that ish intentionally just to provoke Celtic fans. Deep down he loves JB.

[BostonCouchGM]

anyone remember the very first play of the game when Jaylen came off a curl for an easy basket? Please explain why Brad only calls that once a month instead of multiple times a game. I've been asking for more of this since his rookie season. Brad has held him back. He's a system coach that doesn't play to his player's strengths. Also, I know I'm the supposed resident Jaylen hater, but a few of those assists were masterful. They weren't his usual bailout passes once he's stymied then a bad shooter hits a three. They were purposeful drives with the intent to draw defenders so he would have a wide open teammate. If Jaylen can do THAT more, he's for sure a #2!!

btw why can't you add annoying mods to your foe list on here? Why must I have to see their awful posts when they stalk me from thread to thread?

[FroButtons]

He's literally going to be in the back row of the HOF induction speech murmuring, "Lonzo's better. He shouldn't have passed it."

I honestly have no horse in this race and am not picking sides in this internal war you guys got going on in the slightest, but this was one of the funniest things I've ever read on this forum.

[BostonCouchGM]

Before the season, based on Jaylen's production up to that point, his negative assist to turnover ratio, inability to dribble the ball in traffic, non-existent playmaking, sometimes awful team defense and streaky shooting, I dared to put Jaylen lower in my rankings than everyone on here. Teeth were gnashed and pearls were clutched. It was really a site to behold. Jaylen has really taken his game up to another level I didn't anticipate. He no longer has to look down while dribbling, he's no longer a streaky shooter and Brad finally has brought him out from the corner and allowed him to use the speed/power advantage he's had since he's come into the league, like I've been asking for for years. He's simply a much improved player (except on defense where his play has definitely taken a downturn) from the past. So how about an updated ranking based on 1/4 of the season being completed? This won't elicit negative reactions whatsoever I'm sure.

Players I take over Jaylen Brown today for this season (if healthy)

Lebron
AD
KD
Harden
Kawhi
Jokic
Bam
Sabonis
Beal
Tatum
Steph
Doncic
Giannis
Embiid
Morant
Zion
SGA
Fox
Lillard
George
Paul
Simmons
Middleton
Ingram
Tatum



oh no..does...does this mean he's not a top 25 player? Yep, but he's soundly in that Murray, Mitchell, Brogdon, Hayward, McCollum, Oladipo, Trae, Gobert, Lavine, DeRozan, Wood, Grant, Booker group. He wasn't in the same tier as many of these guys before this season so it's an improvement!!

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[LarryBirdsFingr]

Before the season, based on Jaylen's production up to that point, his negative assist to turnover ratio, inability to dribble the ball in traffic, non-existent playmaking, sometimes awful team defense and streaky shooting, I dared to put Jaylen lower in my rankings than everyone on here. Teeth were gnashed and pearls were clutched. It was really a site to behold. Jaylen has really taken his game up to another level I didn't anticipate. He no longer has to look down while dribbling, he's no longer a streaky shooter and Brad finally has brought him out from the corner and allowed him to use the speed/power advantage he's had since he's come into the league, like I've been asking for for years. He's simply a much improved player (except on defense where his play has definitely taken a downturn) from the past. So how about an updated ranking based on 1/4 of the season being completed? This won't elicit negative reactions whatsoever I'm sure.

Players I take over Jaylen Brown today for this season (if healthy)

Lebron
AD
KD
Harden
Kawhi
Jokic
Bam
Sabonis
Beal
Tatum
Steph
Doncic
Giannis
Embiid
Morant
Zion
SGA
Fox
Lillard
George
Paul
Simmons
Middleton
Ingram
Tatum



oh no..does...does this mean he's not a top 25 player? Yep, but he's soundly in that Murray, Mitchell, Brogdon, Hayward, McCollum, Oladipo, Trae, Gobert, Lavine, DeRozan, Wood, Grant, Booker group. He wasn't in the same tier as many of these guys before this season so it's an improvement!!

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Wrong

[keevsnick1]

Before the season, based on Jaylen's production up to that point, his negative assist to turnover ratio, inability to dribble the ball in traffic, non-existent playmaking, sometimes awful team defense and streaky shooting, I dared to put Jaylen lower in my rankings than everyone on here. Teeth were gnashed and pearls were clutched. It was really a site to behold. Jaylen has really taken his game up to another level I didn't anticipate. He no longer has to look down while dribbling, he's no longer a streaky shooter and Brad finally has brought him out from the corner and allowed him to use the speed/power advantage he's had since he's come into the league, like I've been asking for for years. He's simply a much improved player (except on defense where his play has definitely taken a downturn) from the past. So how about an updated ranking based on 1/4 of the season being completed? This won't elicit negative reactions whatsoever I'm sure.

Players I take over Jaylen Brown today for this season (if healthy)

Lebron
AD
KD
Harden
Kawhi
Jokic
Bam
Sabonis
Beal
Tatum
Steph
Doncic
Giannis
Embiid
Morant
Zion
SGA
Fox
Lillard
George
Paul
Simmons
Middleton
Ingram
Tatum



oh no..does...does this mean he's not a top 25 player? Yep, but he's soundly in that Murray, Mitchell, Brogdon, Hayward, McCollum, Oladipo, Trae, Gobert, Lavine, DeRozan, Wood, Grant, Booker group. He wasn't in the same tier as many of these guys before this season so it's an improvement!!

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Gotta admire the dedication with this bit.

[Fencer reregistered]

Before the season, based on Jaylen's production up to that point, his negative assist to turnover ratio, inability to dribble the ball in traffic, non-existent playmaking, sometimes awful team defense and streaky shooting, I dared to put Jaylen lower in my rankings than everyone on here. Teeth were gnashed and pearls were clutched. It was really a site to behold. Jaylen has really taken his game up to another level I didn't anticipate. He no longer has to look down while dribbling, he's no longer a streaky shooter and Brad finally has brought him out from the corner and allowed him to use the speed/power advantage he's had since he's come into the league, like I've been asking for for years. He's simply a much improved player (except on defense where his play has definitely taken a downturn) from the past. So how about an updated ranking based on 1/4 of the season being completed? This won't elicit negative reactions whatsoever I'm sure.

Players I take over Jaylen Brown today for this season (if healthy)

Lebron
AD
KD
Harden
Kawhi
Jokic
Bam
Sabonis
Beal
Tatum
Steph
Doncic
Giannis
Embiid
Morant
Zion
SGA
Fox
Lillard
George
Paul
Simmons
Middleton
Ingram
Tatum



oh no..does...does this mean he's not a top 25 player? Yep, but he's soundly in that Murray, Mitchell, Brogdon, Hayward, McCollum, Oladipo, Trae, Gobert, Lavine, DeRozan, Wood, Grant, Booker group. He wasn't in the same tier as many of these guys before this season so it's an improvement!!

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Gotta admire the dedication with this bit.

That's still putting Brown at least one tier too low, and quite possibly more tiers than that. He's not falling short of the young PGs, Middleton, et al. at all. Maybe he's on their tier. Maybe he's a tier above. But he's not a tier below.

[shi-woo]

Spoiler:

Before the season, based on Jaylen's production up to that point, his negative assist to turnover ratio, inability to dribble the ball in traffic, non-existent playmaking, sometimes awful team defense and streaky shooting, I dared to put Jaylen lower in my rankings than everyone on here. Teeth were gnashed and pearls were clutched. It was really a site to behold. Jaylen has really taken his game up to another level I didn't anticipate. He no longer has to look down while dribbling, he's no longer a streaky shooter and Brad finally has brought him out from the corner and allowed him to use the speed/power advantage he's had since he's come into the league, like I've been asking for for years. He's simply a much improved player (except on defense where his play has definitely taken a downturn) from the past. So how about an updated ranking based on 1/4 of the season being completed? This won't elicit negative reactions whatsoever I'm sure.

Players I take over Jaylen Brown today for this season (if healthy)

Lebron
AD
KD
Harden
Kawhi
Jokic
Bam
Sabonis
Beal
Tatum
Steph
Doncic
Giannis
Embiid
Morant
Zion
SGA
Fox
Lillard
George
Paul
Simmons
Middleton
Ingram
Tatum



oh no..does...does this mean he's not a top 25 player? Yep, but he's soundly in that Murray, Mitchell, Brogdon, Hayward, McCollum, Oladipo, Trae, Gobert, Lavine, DeRozan, Wood, Grant, Booker group. He wasn't in the same tier as many of these guys before this season so it's an improvement!!

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This is horrible.

Under no circumstances are Fox, SGA, JA, Zion, Ingram, Middleton, Tatum listen twice, better than Brown. You might convince me of Middleton just because he's a seasoned vet, but Fox and SGA are clearly a step below Brown at this point, both have regressed and neither were better than Brown last year anyway. Ingram is same level though not clearly better because he hasn't led a team the way Brown has. We still need to see him do more than put up empty stats. Zion and Ja have both played less than a seasons worth of games. They might one day be better than Brown, but they clearly are not right now.

[bucknersrevenge]

Before the season, based on Jaylen's production up to that point, his negative assist to turnover ratio, inability to dribble the ball in traffic, non-existent playmaking, sometimes awful team defense and streaky shooting, I dared to put Jaylen lower in my rankings than everyone on here. Teeth were gnashed and pearls were clutched. It was really a site to behold. Jaylen has really taken his game up to another level I didn't anticipate. He no longer has to look down while dribbling, he's no longer a streaky shooter and Brad finally has brought him out from the corner and allowed him to use the speed/power advantage he's had since he's come into the league, like I've been asking for for years. He's simply a much improved player (except on defense where his play has definitely taken a downturn) from the past. So how about an updated ranking based on 1/4 of the season being completed? This won't elicit negative reactions whatsoever I'm sure.

Players I take over Jaylen Brown today for this season (if healthy)

Lebron
AD
KD
Harden
Kawhi
Jokic
Bam
Sabonis
Beal
Tatum
Steph
Doncic
Giannis
Embiid
Morant
Zion
SGA
Fox
Lillard
George
Paul
Simmons
Middleton
Ingram
Tatum



oh no..does...does this mean he's not a top 25 player? Yep, but he's soundly in that Murray, Mitchell, Brogdon, Hayward, McCollum, Oladipo, Trae, Gobert, Lavine, DeRozan, Wood, Grant, Booker group. He wasn't in the same tier as many of these guys before this season so it's an improvement!!

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Gotta admire the dedication with this bit.

I almost kinda respect the stamina it takes to continue this gimmick for this long. It's like...

[BostonCouchGM]

You need to stop quoting him for real, it's beyond comedy at this point. He's literally going to be in the back row of the HOF induction speech murmuring, "Lonzo's better. He shouldn't have passed it."

imagine being so delusional you think Jaylen Brown is going to the HOF...I mean...even to use it in a bad joke. Yikes

[BostonCouchGM]

Before the season, based on Jaylen's production up to that point, his negative assist to turnover ratio, inability to dribble the ball in traffic, non-existent playmaking, sometimes awful team defense and streaky shooting, I dared to put Jaylen lower in my rankings than everyone on here. Teeth were gnashed and pearls were clutched. It was really a site to behold. Jaylen has really taken his game up to another level I didn't anticipate. He no longer has to look down while dribbling, he's no longer a streaky shooter and Brad finally has brought him out from the corner and allowed him to use the speed/power advantage he's had since he's come into the league, like I've been asking for for years. He's simply a much improved player (except on defense where his play has definitely taken a downturn) from the past. So how about an updated ranking based on 1/4 of the season being completed? This won't elicit negative reactions whatsoever I'm sure.

Players I take over Jaylen Brown today for this season (if healthy)

Lebron
AD
KD
Harden
Kawhi
Jokic
Bam
Sabonis
Beal
Tatum
Steph
Doncic
Giannis
Embiid
Morant
Zion
SGA
Fox
Lillard
George
Paul
Simmons
Middleton
Ingram
Tatum



oh no..does...does this mean he's not a top 25 player? Yep, but he's soundly in that Murray, Mitchell, Brogdon, Hayward, McCollum, Oladipo, Trae, Gobert, Lavine, DeRozan, Wood, Grant, Booker group. He wasn't in the same tier as many of these guys before this season so it's an improvement!!

commence rational non-biased, non-emotional discussion

Gotta admire the dedication with this bit.

That's still putting Brown at least one tier too low, and quite possibly more tiers than that. He's not falling short of the young PGs, Middleton, et al. at all. Maybe he's on their tier. Maybe he's a tier above. But he's not a tier below.

we're splitting hairs. The bottom of one tier isn't that much above the top of the next.

[Fencer reregistered]

You need to stop quoting him for real, it's beyond comedy at this point. He's literally going to be in the back row of the HOF induction speech murmuring, "Lonzo's better. He shouldn't have passed it."

imagine being so delusional you think Jaylen Brown is going to the HOF...I mean...even to use it in a bad joke. Yikes

Jaylen has a reasonable shot at amassing career accolades similar to Joe Dumars' or Mitch Richmond's, and they're both in the HoF.

On a 50-50 bet I'd say he won't make it. But to think it's a totally crazy idea is ... crazy.

[Bleeding Green]

He's 24 and has improved his shooting and finishing ability for three years running now from every spot on the court. Handle, vision improve every year. Hard worker. Probably future NBPA president. 6'6" athletic wing who can potentially be a 40% 3p shooter for the remainder of his career, his game is probably going to age well. USA basketball future potential. He will have accolades above what he does on the court. All these things matter in the scope of the hall. Plus the Basketball hall of fame isn't even that exclusive. But I guess it's one of those things that we can disagree on and then who is even going to remember this conversation in 15-18 years when he's likely to be eligible (barring injury or early retirement).

[Parliament10]

You need to stop quoting him for real, it's beyond comedy at this point. He's literally going to be in the back row of the HOF induction speech murmuring, "Lonzo's better. He shouldn't have passed it."

imagine being so delusional you think Jaylen Brown is going to the HOF...I mean...even to use it in a bad joke. Yikes

There's no Way that you can know that.

You're Trolling this Board.
Stop it.

~ Parl

[CeltsfanSinceBirth]

I’ve seen enough. This guy is actually getting blocked, which is pretty rare for me to do during my 17 years on this board. Lol

[themoneyteam2]

anyone remember the very first play of the game when Jaylen came off a curl for an easy basket? Please explain why Brad only calls that once a month instead of multiple times a game. I've been asking for more of this since his rookie season. Brad has held him back. He's a system coach that doesn't play to his player's strengths. Also, I know I'm the supposed resident Jaylen hater, but a few of those assists were masterful. They weren't his usual bailout passes once he's stymied then a bad shooter hits a three. They were purposeful drives with the intent to draw defenders so he would have a wide open teammate. If Jaylen can do THAT more, he's for sure a #2!!

btw why can't you add annoying mods to your foe list on here? Why must I have to see their awful posts when they stalk me from thread to thread?

Brad only called it once because according to you Brown should only be shooting wide open shots in the corner and catch and shoot threes. That’s what you said just a few weeks ago.

Or are you going to move the goalposts again this time?

[Triple M]

A more offensive gifted Jimmy Butler

[Saint Lazarus]

Before the season, based on Jaylen's production up to that point, his negative assist to turnover ratio, inability to dribble the ball in traffic, non-existent playmaking, sometimes awful team defense and streaky shooting, I dared to put Jaylen lower in my rankings than everyone on here. Teeth were gnashed and pearls were clutched. It was really a site to behold. Jaylen has really taken his game up to another level I didn't anticipate. He no longer has to look down while dribbling, he's no longer a streaky shooter and Brad finally has brought him out from the corner and allowed him to use the speed/power advantage he's had since he's come into the league, like I've been asking for for years. He's simply a much improved player (except on defense where his play has definitely taken a downturn) from the past. So how about an updated ranking based on 1/4 of the season being completed? This won't elicit negative reactions whatsoever I'm sure.

Players I take over Jaylen Brown today for this season (if healthy)

Lebron
AD
KD
Harden
Kawhi
Jokic
Bam
Sabonis
Beal
Tatum
Steph
Doncic
Giannis
Embiid
Morant
Zion
SGA
Fox
Lillard
George
Paul
Simmons
Middleton
Ingram
Tatum



oh no..does...does this mean he's not a top 25 player? Yep, but he's soundly in that Murray, Mitchell, Brogdon, Hayward, McCollum, Oladipo, Trae, Gobert, Lavine, DeRozan, Wood, Grant, Booker group. He wasn't in the same tier as many of these guys before this season so it's an improvement!!

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Brown is so trash that Tatum made the list over him twice!

[ballup]

Passing to open players is bad now. This is like complaining that Michael Jordan passed it to Steve Kerr.

Zzzzzzzz.

I'm all for the MJaylen memes, but comparing Semi to Crowder is too far

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[London2Boston]

Still remember when we were getting clowned by rival fans(and some of our own) for giving him that extension.