PG: Clippers at Knicks

[Jeff Van Gully]

Has a place in Brooklyn and we need real shooters. I like it.

You think 1 of Bullock/Burke, Knox and Dallas' 2022 protected?

We're not giving up a pick for an old veteran getting paid more than he's worth to them. He just got a DNP-CD the last 2 games as the Pels are giving more time to younger players. His numbers are down this year.

We can give them a younger player on a cheaper contract and they will like it.

elfrid can go home

[RHODEY]

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[stuporman]

It might be mean spirited, but it would be quite awesome if the Knicks got the #1 pick in the draft via the Mavs, KP was hurt on and off for the next 3 years, the Mavs don't resign him, and then KP kicks around the league from team to team, fat and angry, before retiring at the 10 year mark.

And everyone called him Porkzingis.

It's a little bit petty, but hey.

[Dantares]

Elfrid for JJ please. and I don't even care if JJ doesnt get any playing time

[seren]

The Knicks have two options: 1) Get serious with winning. Find a real starting PG and a high level SF. Maybe trade some picks, cap space etc. 2) Continue collecting assets. Build around RJ/Quickley. I am fine with both. It would be very disappointing if we waste all our cap space to nothing and end up at another 8-12 pick.

[Clyde_Style]

How could we have ever guessed we'd turn Morris' one year journeyman contract into the draft pick that became IQ?

[PeteW]

http://insider.espn.com/nba/hollinger/statistics/_/position/rookies

Quick leading all rooks in PER. Lamelo a close second.

[knicks94]

Once Frank gets healthy the Knicks will have a big 4.

[ctorres]

Elfrid for JJ please. and I don't even care if JJ doesnt get any playing time

JJ would probably be the starting shooting guard and veteran team captain.

[FreeSpiritNY]

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He lost me when he said develop elfrid payton. He must be smoking the same crack thibs is.

[Reign23]

RJ’s emergence is lowkey the best part of this season.

not only lowkey...

[Reign23]

I wouldn't complain about signing one either...that Gary Trent Jr kid, for example

Blazers love notwithstanding, the Knicks have GOT to start bringing in guys like that. Trent would be a great addition.

idk hes been ABSURDLY erratic this year...I take Huerter over GTJ every time

lol wut?

[Reign23]

obi will be fine, it's hard to produce in only 10 minutes.

it's clear he has the athleticism and it's clear he has intangibles, he passes the ball very well out of the post.

he just has to get playing time.

when do you think is he going to get more time, tho? not gonna happen.

[Reign23]

Considering how deep this draft is and we have multiple picks, would y'all be opposed to trading both picks for #1 to grab Cade?

both picks and multiple other stuff. every day of the week.

[Reign23]

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that is very cool from them

[Reign23]

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I don't think the Knicks should be buyers

just if a young star becomes available. but definitely not for cooked JJ Reddick

[Reign23]

Quickley is a scoring guard, there's nothing wrong with that at all as several PGs are like that - Curry, Lillard, Kemba, Murray. You just have to have another ball mover on the floor with them, which is why I want to see him with Frank. I think as a whole our offense would run better with Frank rather than Burks, Rivers or Bullock because he's more unselfish in the first two and he can create better than the 3rd.

please just stop asking for Frank. he would definitely be a good fit with all the young guys. but it makes it even more frustrating for me.

[thebuzzardman]

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I don't think the Knicks should be buyers

A few thoughts

In general the Knicks shouldn't be buyers agreed

Knicks MIGHT be able to be buyers in highly specific areas - meaning, I wouldn't be against SOME kind of trade - on the periphery - where Burks or Bullocks or Frank or DSJr go out. Obviously Payton, but seems like FO wants to keep him

Reddick a few years ago, to me, would have been a good get, where I'm more confident he's not washed. Players like this who can knock down the open shot are always valuable and helpful to a team, no matter where they are in the standings.

Reddick has a suspiciously low shooting % for a shooter though and make me wonder if he's washed

Reddick obviously wants to ring chase and wants the Nets

This is the part where teams left and right bend over and give the contender whatever the f*ck they want, as if they have zero leverage. Which pisses me off. Nets will get Reddick for next to nothing. Cavs will waive Drummond and he'll saunter over there. And Nets probably win it all.

It bothers me because teams should realize they are in a HIGH leverage situation. The contender team has generally gone "all in". Yes, they tend to not have many assets left. But then they are even more desperate because they know they need a couple of more role players to go over the top. And then bum ass organizations just gift them to that team. Why?

Also, wary of Reddick because you'd think the Pels would want some shooting to spread the floor for Zion and need it more because Lonzo can't shoot, yet here they are shopping Reddick.

[thebuzzardman]

Quickley is a scoring guard, there's nothing wrong with that at all as several PGs are like that - Curry, Lillard, Kemba, Murray. You just have to have another ball mover on the floor with them, which is why I want to see him with Frank. I think as a whole our offense would run better with Frank rather than Burks, Rivers or Bullock because he's more unselfish in the first two and he can create better than the 3rd.

I'll shine in on the Quickley thing.

He's obviously not some incredible passer.
Like Clyde said, that's ok as long as he has court awareness. This part seems pretty good.
IF he becomes a starting PG, he would be more of a boring/scoring PG. More like Billups - who was probably a better passer too, but hopefully people get the idea.

It's not the end of the world because assuming RJ is a piece who will be here a while, he's a decent creator at 2 or 3. On a more loaded team, IQ's future may be combo guard 6th man, but it's not that difficult to see him starting depending on who the other guards and forwards are.

I mean, draft Cade? IQ could play "2" but guard "1"
FA dream of Booker? Just play Booker/IQ/RJ and let the positions be flexible. IQ guards 1, RJ the best wing, hide Booker.
Suggs? Have no specific "1" on offense

RJ gives you a guy who can play 2 or 3 with a dash of some 1 abilities. That will be useful moving forward.
IQ really should only guard 1 and his game is mostly a 2, but has 1 attributes, probably more than RJ. Not AS useful, but helps in lineup flexibility.
Getting a Cade or Kuminga or Suggs or Green in the draft? Knicks would have a LOT of lineup flexibility

[WargamesX]

Quickley is a scoring guard, there's nothing wrong with that at all as several PGs are like that - Curry, Lillard, Kemba, Murray. You just have to have another ball mover on the floor with them, which is why I want to see him with Frank. I think as a whole our offense would run better with Frank rather than Burks, Rivers or Bullock because he's more unselfish in the first two and he can create better than the 3rd.

please just stop asking for Frank. he would definitely be a good fit with all the young guys. but it makes it even more frustrating for me.

To be fair the last story I read he was still in a knee brace and Thibs was saying it take a while to get back.

There is a chance he gets some minutes, just got to keep hope alive. If he is slowly recovering there is no need to rush him back, let him get 100%