2020 Offseason: Trade Ideas / Trade Talk

[Bensational]

WeHam will probably just sit on this and let injuries take their course and the team will naturally tank without selling assets at a loss.

Fournier is an asset we simply have no space for, and he’s a free agent. We could move pieces to make space for him but he could also turn around and leave us after that anyway.

The teams looking to buy on JJ are the same buyers for Fournier.

Get it done WeHam! Shake, Maxey, Neismith, Pritchard, Williams, Shamet - one or more of these names in return for Fournier is a win for the future.

[pepe1991]

On bright side, we will most defenetly be out of playoff picture after ASG so there will be no hope of getting into play in.
Maybe even Wizards surpass us on East, so we are aiming for second worst record in conference.

[basketballRob]

On bright side, we will most defenetly be out of playoff picture after ASG so there will be no hope of getting into play in.
Maybe even Wizards surpass us on East, so we are aiming for second worst record in conference.

Minnesota may pass us when they get Towns back. It would be nice to get in that bottom 3 overall.

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[tiderulz]

On bright side, we will most defenetly be out of playoff picture after ASG so there will be no hope of getting into play in.
Maybe even Wizards surpass us on East, so we are aiming for second worst record in conference.

Minnesota may pass us when they get Towns back. It would be nice to get in that bottom 3 overall.

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not like Minny has ever sniffed the playoffs with KAT before. He just doesnt seem to be someone who can carry a team.

[Skybox]

This Aaron Gordon injury REALLY sucks, not just for his play, but for his trade value. Hope he’s back 100% and soon. I fear between ankle and hammy, he could get labeled injury-prone or play passively if he comes back too soon. Trade deadline is fast approaching and, again, he’ll be made available. I hope he’s at his best soon.

I really am a fan of his but I would trade him today -both for our sake and his. He’s a very good man defender but Isaac is elite AND elite at rim protection and steals. Does anyone feel differently about AG’s spot in ORL one-term?

[cedric76]

This Aaron Gordon injury REALLY sucks, not just for his play, but for his trade value. Hope he’s back 100% and soon. I fear between ankle and hammy, he could get labeled injury-prone or play passively if he comes back too soon. Trade deadline is fast approaching and, again, he’ll be made available. I hope he’s at his best soon.

I really am a fan of his but I would trade him today -both for our sake and his. He’s a very good man defender but Isaac is elite AND elite at rim protection and steals. Does anyone feel differently about AG’s spot in ORL one-term?

Isaac is our PF of the future, AG has to be moved

[MartinsIzAfraud]

This Aaron Gordon injury REALLY sucks, not just for his play, but for his trade value. Hope he’s back 100% and soon. I fear between ankle and hammy, he could get labeled injury-prone or play passively if he comes back too soon. Trade deadline is fast approaching and, again, he’ll be made available. I hope he’s at his best soon.

I really am a fan of his but I would trade him today -both for our sake and his. He’s a very good man defender but Isaac is elite AND elite at rim protection and steals. Does anyone feel differently about AG’s spot in ORL one-term?

Isaac is our PF of the future, AG has to be moved

Isaac needs to last more than a few months healthy before people say PF of the Future. Right now he is useless on the IR and its just Hype

[MartinsIzAfraud]

This Aaron Gordon injury REALLY sucks, not just for his play, but for his trade value. Hope he’s back 100% and soon. I fear between ankle and hammy, he could get labeled injury-prone or play passively if he comes back too soon. Trade deadline is fast approaching and, again, he’ll be made available. I hope he’s at his best soon.

I really am a fan of his but I would trade him today -both for our sake and his. He’s a very good man defender but Isaac is elite AND elite at rim protection and steals. Does anyone feel differently about AG’s spot in ORL one-term?

As long as Isaac is injured I don't see this FO trading AG. They're so risk adverse that they would never move AG unless they had someone to step in right away. We don't have that on our roster right now.

[drsd]

This Aaron Gordon injury REALLY sucks, not just for his play, but for his trade value.

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[drsd]

I really hope this Front Office of Orlando Magic is as aggressive as 76ers Darl Morey, making trades and FA signings.

We have 4 years of evidence to suggest they’re the polar opposite.

The level of injuries has gotten to the "no player can be traded" point. So, here comes a 10W - 40L close out for the season ???

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[basketballRob]

I really hope this Front Office of Orlando Magic is as aggressive as 76ers Darl Morey, making trades and FA signings.

We have 4 years of evidence to suggest they’re the polar opposite.

The level of injuries has gotten to the "no player can be traded" point. So, here comes a 10W - 40L close out for the season ???

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It looks like the draft could have 2-5 generational type players, so it would be smart to tank.

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[Skybox]

Honestly, given the perceived power in this draft and our current trajectory, this one would truly be a season for "evaluation"...trade Evan(before he gets hurt) and AG(when healthy) for young guys and basically hold open tryouts for next year and beyond...including Mo.

I've grown to believe trading Vuc would be a mistake as he'll fit very well with our young guys and the recovery wouldn't make it worth it. I feel similarly but less strongly about TRoss.

[RookieStar]

You know what.. Im in with the keep Vuc bandwagon. He really is a top-5 Center in this league nowadays where its all offense. IF we get back JI next season, the help defense could cover for Vuc.

[Max Power]

I’m in favor of keeping Vuc. He’s a top 5 center, a sure fire all star. Keep him and start getting the right pieces with him. It’s increasingly likely we’ll be players in the draft this year. We can add some young talent with him and hopefully a health Fultz and Issac. I like Ross so if we keep him I’m cool but he could also be a good trade piece to a contender needing a scoring punch.

[drsd]

It looks like the draft could have 2-5 generational type players, so it would be smart to tank.

Orlando is not and will not Tank.

The frank reality is that this team is horrible right now because of a lack of talent on the court. There are 13 more games in February, and a 3-10 outcome might be a Homer'ist vision for the month.

A bad team does not need to tank; they are just bad.

My point: The Magic does not need to Tank to lose games. The lottery balls are coming even with A1 effort.

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[drsd]

I’m in favor of keeping Vuc. He’s a top 5 center, a sure fire all star. Keep him and start getting the right pieces with him. It’s increasingly likely we’ll be players in the draft this year. We can add some young talent with him and hopefully a health Fultz and Issac. I like Ross so if we keep him I’m cool but he could also be a good trade piece to a contender needing a scoring punch.

The Magic looks to rebound strong next year (perhaps only back to mediocrity from bad).

Vučević is a key part of this team making it to next year's playoffs. There is no other player on this roster where that is true.

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[drsd]

I believe today is the deadline for a traded player to be re-traded in a bundle before the trade-deadline. We should see movement around the NBA today.

[MoMM]

It looks like the draft could have 2-5 generational type players, so it would be smart to tank.

Orlando is not and will not Tank.

The frank reality is that this team is horrible right now because of a lack of talent on the court. There are 13 more games in February, and a 3-10 outcome might be a Homer'ist vision for the month.

A bad team does not need to tank; they are just bad.

My point: The Magic does not need to Tank to lose games. The lottery balls are coming even with A1 effort.

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Exactly, even if we try to win, we will have a Bottom-5 record, there is no way we can do better than that.

We should keep Vuc, he is very good and won't make us win by himself, next year we can add Isaac, Fultz and some top pick and we will be way better.

Trading AG and Evan would be good too, first because we won't re-sign Evan and 2nd because we don't need AG once Isaac/Chuma/Aminu are back next year.

[jonbob17]

It looks like the draft could have 2-5 generational type players, so it would be smart to tank.

Orlando is not and will not Tank.

The frank reality is that this team is horrible right now because of a lack of talent on the court. There are 13 more games in February, and a 3-10 outcome might be a Homer'ist vision for the month.

A bad team does not need to tank; they are just bad.

My point: The Magic does not need to Tank to lose games. The lottery balls are coming even with A1 effort.

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Exactly, even if we try to win, we will have a Bottom-5 record, there is no way we can do better than that.

We should keep Vuc, he is very good and won't make us win by himself, next year we can add Isaac, Fultz and some top pick and we will be way better.

Trading AG and Evan would be good too, first because we won't re-sign Evan and 2nd because we don't need AG once Isaac/Chuma/Aminu are back next year.

The 5th worst record only guarantees you a top 9 pick. With the most likely selection 7th. Need to move Fournier ASAP, the AG injury shows the risk of waiting until the deadline. Should AG show his health before the deadline, he should definitely be moved as well. I can't imagine we get the kind of return we were offered during the offseason, so I will be curious if the FO eats that humble pie.

At this point we should be targeting the worst record in the league. We might be a Fournier trade away from that, and that is a trade that has to be made regardless. Rest Vuc one game a week, preferably against the worst opponent. Just imagine how screwed we would be if Vuc suffered a serious injury. Do what we can to make sure that doesn't happen, and that involves rest.

[drsd]

The 5th worst record only guarantees you a top 9 pick. With the most likely selection 7th. Need to move Fournier ASAP, the AG injury shows the risk of waiting until the deadline. Should AG show his health before the deadline, he should definitely be moved as well. I can't imagine we get the kind of return we were offered during the offseason, so I will be curious if the FO eats that humble pie.

At this point we should be targeting the worst record in the league. We might be a Fournier trade away from that, and that is a trade that has to be made regardless. Rest Vuc one game a week, preferably against the worst opponent. Just imagine how screwed we would be if Vuc suffered a serious injury. Do what we can to make sure that doesn't happen, and that involves rest.

Being the overall worst team , the most probable draft spot is 5th. There is no real point to trying to lose.

But this is now a moo-point. Orlando will lose games. With Gordon out probably til late March, the Magic will emerge a bottom-3 team in the NBA.

The Cavs and Knicks is nowhere near as awful as predicted. The Heat and the Raptors will start winning games.

Orlando will be right there with Detroit and Washington for league worst. And talent wise, Orlando is not as good as those two bottom feeders. The Magic A1 effort could lead to a 20% wining rate to close out the season. Nd this is the time of year that the Magic teams implode post-Howard. Only the 2015/16 and 2019/20 seasons broke that trend. That trend will undoubtably hold this year. And like the 2013 and 2014 rosters, late wins will drive Tanking fans hear crazy.


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