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Yeah he'd foul out with 20 pts and 13 rebs in 25 minutes.JBSouthpaw wrote:basketballRob wrote:Bamba averaging 28.6 ppg and 16.4 rebs per 36 mpg. I know he wouldn't average that, but it's not like he hasn't capitalized on the little bit of minutes he's got.
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You left out the 9 Personal Fouls he'd average..I'm sure that was just an oversite.
basketballRob wrote:Yeah he'd foul out with 20 pts and 13 rebs in 25 minutes.JBSouthpaw wrote:basketballRob wrote:Bamba averaging 28.6 ppg and 16.4 rebs per 36 mpg. I know he wouldn't average that, but it's not like he hasn't capitalized on the little bit of minutes he's got.
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You left out the 9 Personal Fouls he'd average..I'm sure that was just an oversite.
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The Effect wrote:cedric76 wrote:I m against TANKING, i want our players to play to win but with so many injuries it s clear that we wont be able to make the playoff
Trade AG and Evan for Assets
Give minutes to Chuma and MO
Im now completely off the "trade AG" wagon, i want him in a orlando jersey for the rest of his career
Also, if hes hurt and out an extended period of time, it would be hard to trade him anyways, let alone trade him for any kind of value
But either way, #KeepAG!
Skybox wrote:The Effect wrote:cedric76 wrote:I m against TANKING, i want our players to play to win but with so many injuries it s clear that we wont be able to make the playoff
Trade AG and Evan for Assets
Give minutes to Chuma and MO
Im now completely off the "trade AG" wagon, i want him in a orlando jersey for the rest of his career
Also, if hes hurt and out an extended period of time, it would be hard to trade him anyways, let alone trade him for any kind of value
But either way, #KeepAG!
Do you see him playing next to Isaac successfully? would you move Isaac instead? Do you think AG will want to re-sign after next year and how much will he want?
We simply can't have our top 5 players ALL making 15-25 apiece...Unless we were to move Evan and AG (and ...) for a star like Beal or whoever, the more realistic model is to bust up AG's and/or Evan's 18m over a couple of role players that provide the parts of Evan's or AG's games that we need (floor-spreader, strictly D...). It seems we cannot just re-sign all of these good but not great players to high but not real high deals. One by one, they're not unfair deals, but across the roster it doesn't work out. Even if we wanted to just run it back, everybody can't just keep getting raises...doesn't work anymore in corporate setting or in NBA.
The Effect wrote:Skybox wrote:The Effect wrote:Im now completely off the "trade AG" wagon, i want him in a orlando jersey for the rest of his career
Also, if hes hurt and out an extended period of time, it would be hard to trade him anyways, let alone trade him for any kind of value
But either way, #KeepAG!
Do you see him playing next to Isaac successfully? would you move Isaac instead? Do you think AG will want to re-sign after next year and how much will he want?
We simply can't have our top 5 players ALL making 15-25 apiece...Unless we were to move Evan and AG (and ...) for a star like Beal or whoever, the more realistic model is to bust up AG's and/or Evan's 18m over a couple of role players that provide the parts of Evan's or AG's games that we need (floor-spreader, strictly D...). It seems we cannot just re-sign all of these good but not great players to high but not real high deals. One by one, they're not unfair deals, but across the roster it doesn't work out. Even if we wanted to just run it back, everybody can't just keep getting raises...doesn't work anymore in corporate setting or in NBA.
Im probably the only person on this site that would want to trade isaac
I think hes too injury prone and too much of a liablity on offense to be a franchise cornerstone.
I really hate the idea of build a team around a 3&D guy who is going to miss 60% of your games and really cant create any offense outside of kickout 3s
I get hes an all-nba level defender and that hes everyones hope for a franchise player, but that does nothing for us when hes in a suit and tie every game, and really he only makes an impact at one side of the court. I get why everyone lose him, but im not in that group
Too me, my order of trading guys from out "core" would be
1 - Evan - please trade him already!
2 - Ross - cant deal with the black hole when hes in the game. the ball literally stops moving and gets forced to him to take every shot. When hes hot, sure thats alright i guess (still takes too many bad shots), but when hes off, its an automatic loss
3 - Isaac - I would say id rather trade vuc than him, but i would list him above vuc because id ASSUME he would have higher trade value.
4 - Vuc - If we can trade him for a valuable return, do it, but im not holding my breath
Gordon\Fultz\Cole - im not trading
BadMofoPimp wrote:Durant thinks Vooch is one of the Best Centers in the NBA. I will take his word over a couch-GM yelling at a TV.
Knightro wrote:
zaymon wrote:The Effect wrote:Skybox wrote:
Do you see him playing next to Isaac successfully? would you move Isaac instead? Do you think AG will want to re-sign after next year and how much will he want?
We simply can't have our top 5 players ALL making 15-25 apiece...Unless we were to move Evan and AG (and ...) for a star like Beal or whoever, the more realistic model is to bust up AG's and/or Evan's 18m over a couple of role players that provide the parts of Evan's or AG's games that we need (floor-spreader, strictly D...). It seems we cannot just re-sign all of these good but not great players to high but not real high deals. One by one, they're not unfair deals, but across the roster it doesn't work out. Even if we wanted to just run it back, everybody can't just keep getting raises...doesn't work anymore in corporate setting or in NBA.
Im probably the only person on this site that would want to trade isaac
I think hes too injury prone and too much of a liablity on offense to be a franchise cornerstone.
I really hate the idea of build a team around a 3&D guy who is going to miss 60% of your games and really cant create any offense outside of kickout 3s
I get hes an all-nba level defender and that hes everyones hope for a franchise player, but that does nothing for us when hes in a suit and tie every game, and really he only makes an impact at one side of the court. I get why everyone lose him, but im not in that group
Too me, my order of trading guys from out "core" would be
1 - Evan - please trade him already!
2 - Ross - cant deal with the black hole when hes in the game. the ball literally stops moving and gets forced to him to take every shot. When hes hot, sure thats alright i guess (still takes too many bad shots), but when hes off, its an automatic loss
3 - Isaac - I would say id rather trade vuc than him, but i would list him above vuc because id ASSUME he would have higher trade value.
4 - Vuc - If we can trade him for a valuable return, do it, but im not holding my breath
Gordon\Fultz\Cole - im not trading
So you literally want to trade our best players and build around worst ? Thats bold. I like Cole but he has a long way to go.
RookieStar wrote:Knightro wrote:
That's tank-tastic news. Does this mean we get to see more of Bamba with Birch being the PF?
The Effect wrote:With cliff as coach, no, expect to see alot more Clark at PF and birch at C
Husky1 wrote:I would love Ross, Fournier, Birch. We can keep Vooch and rest him on B2B for rest of year. We keep Vooch takes pressure off having to draft Mobley on top 3.
Ross to Boston or Philly for a young piece or 1st rounder.
Evan to Dallas for Johnson and Green or terry.
Birch would be ideal to Nets. Try get Claxton/Perry off them for him.
Build around Vooch, Bamba, Fultz, Isaac, Okeke and Anthony and a top 3 pick, that’s a hell of a young core. Add savvy vets along the way as we go. Keep Aminu for this reason.
If we can land Green, Kuminga or Cade then I truly believe, lookout!
Knightro wrote:
Magicfanatic82 wrote:Knightro wrote:
Awesome news, we should give him all the playing time he can handle.
pepe1991 wrote:If you are going into full blown rebuild, there is no logical reason why not include Isaac and especially Fultz in trades.
Team won't be build in next 3 years at least, witch means Isaac and Fultz will be already gone in unrestricted free agency.
Timeline of future team shouldn't be depended on players that missed 3 of 4 years of rookie contracts and were awarded exstension based on blind faith.