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[coolhandluke121]

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That is really encouraging to see. I still think they're over-helping like crazy, but at least it's not as bad as the bubble. They had the best defensive rating in the NBA two years in a row by guarding the paint and good 3-point shooters and living with the variance from mediocre shooters. This gives me some hope that they're better than their numbers indicate. Still vulnerable against teams that can put 4-5 shooters on the floor at the same time of course, but who isn't?

Also it's worth remembering that we pretty much all knew, or should have known, that the days of having a fun, dominant regular season were officially over with the Jrue trade. Get used to this. I mean even the Warriors fell 15 games in the regular season standings within 2 years of signing Durant, but it didn't matter once the playoffs started. I'm not saying the Bucks will definitely be better in the playoffs, but a similar principle of sacrificing regular season depth in hopes of an improved playoff rotation does apply here.

[emunney]

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That is really encouraging to see. I still think they're over-helping like crazy, but at least it's not as bad as the bubble. They had the best defensive rating in the NBA two years in a row by guarding the paint and good 3-point shooters and living with the variance from mediocre shooters. This gives me some hope that they're better than their numbers indicate. Still vulnerable against teams that can put 4-5 shooters on the floor at the same time of course, but who isn't?

Also it's worth remembering that we pretty much all knew, or should have known, that the days of having a fun, dominant regular season were officially over with the Jrue trade. Get used to this. I mean even the Warriors fell 15 games in the regular season standings within 2 years of signing Durant, but it didn't matter once the playoffs started. I'm not saying the Bucks will definitely be better in the playoffs, but a similar principle of sacrificing regular season depth in hopes of an improved playoff rotation does apply here.

I also think we all knew that *we* would not be having a fun regular season, since, given our current orientation, it is now a setting where only bad things can happen.

[crkone]

OK time for some positivity:
1)Jrue has Bud's ear. They dabbled in switching to begin the season and it has increased exponentially as of late. It's now time to work out the kinks and timing of it. Will it happen? Who knows but they are trying.
2)The offense changed and they are adding more complexity. It is still based off transition as much as possible but there are signs it has gotten better. According to cleaningtheglass, the Bucks have the #3 half-court offense in the league, and the #4 half-court offense against top 10 defenses. (#6,#4 last season)Again clean it up especially in crunch time.
3)As explained above they are a bit unlucky right now on D.
4)These past two games have shown they CAN turn on the intensity and get back into a game.

[FrieAaron]

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That is really encouraging to see. I still think they're over-helping like crazy, but at least it's not as bad as the bubble. They had the best defensive rating in the NBA two years in a row by guarding the paint and good 3-point shooters and living with the variance from mediocre shooters. This gives me some hope that they're better than their numbers indicate. Still vulnerable against teams that can put 4-5 shooters on the floor at the same time of course, but who isn't?

Also it's worth remembering that we pretty much all knew, or should have known, that the days of having a fun, dominant regular season were officially over with the Jrue trade. Get used to this. I mean even the Warriors fell 15 games in the regular season standings within 2 years of signing Durant, but it didn't matter once the playoffs started. I'm not saying the Bucks will definitely be better in the playoffs, but a similar principle of sacrificing regular season depth in hopes of an improved playoff rotation does apply here.

I also think we all knew that *we* would not be having a fun regular season, since, given our current orientation, it is now a setting where only bad things can happen.

Yeah we're now in the regular season doesn't matter (except for every loss) phase.

[Siefer]

Teams have been spamming high screens to free up shooters at the three-point line for a couple of years now against the Bucks, but those numbers are wild, especially above the break threes.

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[coolhandluke121]

Jrue is not a floor general or true PG or whatever you want to call it. Anyone who thought they were getting someone who could help the Bucks play as a significantly more cohesive unit on offense was bound to be disappointed. His benefit is more patience, discipline, and shooting than Bledsoe, as well as more defensive versatility.

Can Jrue sign an extension before the trade deadline? It would be nice to get that done, and you could argue that his modest stats might work in the Bucks' favor for that. It's going to be a disaster if he leaves in free agency. Even keeping his options open would make it hard for the Bucks to make moves.

[giannis and 1]

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That is really encouraging to see. I still think they're over-helping like crazy, but at least it's not as bad as the bubble. They had the best defensive rating in the NBA two years in a row by guarding the paint and good 3-point shooters and living with the variance from mediocre shooters. This gives me some hope that they're better than their numbers indicate. Still vulnerable against teams that can put 4-5 shooters on the floor at the same time of course, but who isn't?

Also it's worth remembering that we pretty much all knew, or should have known, that the days of having a fun, dominant regular season were officially over with the Jrue trade. Get used to this. I mean even the Warriors fell 15 games in the regular season standings within 2 years of signing Durant, but it didn't matter once the playoffs started. I'm not saying the Bucks will definitely be better in the playoffs, but a similar principle of sacrificing regular season depth in hopes of an improved playoff rotation does apply here.

Agreed. I think the regular season for a team that has had so many roster changes, and some scheme changes is going to be a little bumpy to begin with. This time should be spent getting better as a team, and hopefully it results in a lot more wins in the 2nd half of the season. That being said, some of the issues we have are lingering issues from previous seasons. Not sure if those will be fixed by the time the playoffs start.

[giannis and 1]

What would it take to get Danuel House?

[crowhead76]

Lopez, DDV, DJW, and 2 2nds to Portland for Trent Jr, Collins, and Covington

Portland needs to do something, they are probably not going to bring Collins back, Trent Jr wants big money and a starting role, Covington has not produced for them like they hoped.

Sign Diallo

Holiday, DJA, Merrill
Trent Jr, Pat, Forbes
Middleton, Craig, Nwora
Giannis, Covington, Thanasis
Portis, Diallo, Collins

[StickeeFingaz]

Maybe the financials don't make sense for either team, I'm just thinking about fit. Obviously would give more mins to Portis if Brook is out.

Brook + Donte for Zeller + Graham from Charlotte.

Thoughts? Does it suck? Any edits?

[WRau1]

Lopez, DDV, Wilson, PatC for Porzingis.

[WRau1]

What would it take to get Danuel House?

An ig model.

[slos]

Dipo is looking good in Houston FWIW. Their D is way better since he replaced Harden. He's also averaging 5.4 APG in his first 7 games. Both are qualities we can use. Bucks can't afford defensive liabilities against all these superteams. We also need everyone to pass the ball since Jrue/Midds/Giannis can all be PGs but none is a pure PG. Adding Dipo in the mix makes both our perimeter defense and ball movement better. Dipo can also be another scoring threat we badly need. His shooting is average at the moment in Houston at 40/34/73, but it can be better in Milwaukee at lower volume with better looks.

Brook + Augustin + Connaughton + Wilson + 2021/2023 FRPs + 2nds
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Dipo + min vets (Cousins, Hassan, buyout guys etc) + 2022 FRP

is what I'm looking for in total from Horst till the deadline. This plan will also help the ownership avoid the tax, which will be crucial with Jrue's and Dipo's extensions kicking in along with Giannis' supermax.

Jrue..........DDV.........Merrill
Dipo..........Forbes.....Nwora
Midds.........xxx.........Thanasis
Giannis.......xxx.........Craig
Portis ........xxx..........xxx

That's a great 7 man rotation. I guess it won't be too difficult to add 2-3 serviceable vets to round up that roster.

[paulpressey25]

When can Jrue sign his contract extension?

We always heard "February" but no specific date was given.

[WRau1]

Dipo is looking good in Houston FWIW. Their D is way better since he replaced Harden. He's also averaging 5.4 APG in his first 7 games. Both are qualities we can use. Bucks can't afford defensive liabilities against all these superteams. We also need everyone to pass the ball since Jrue/Midds/Giannis can all be PGs but none is a pure PG. Adding Dipo in the mix makes both our perimeter defense and ball movement better. Dipo can also be another scoring threat we badly need. His shooting is average at the moment in Houston at 40/34/73, but it can be better in Milwaukee at lower volume with better looks.

Brook + Augustin + Connaughton + Wilson + 2021/2023 FRPs + 2nds
for
Dipo + min vets (Cousins, Hassan, buyout guys etc) + 2022 FRP

is what I'm looking for in total from Horst till the deadline. This plan will also help the ownership avoid the tax, which will be crucial with Jrue's and Dipo's extensions kicking in along with Giannis' supermax.

Jrue..........DDV.........Merrill
Dipo..........Forbes.....Nwora
Midds.........xxx.........Thanasis
Giannis.......xxx.........Craig
Portis ........xxx..........xxx

That's a great 7 man rotation. I guess it won't be too difficult to add 2-3 serviceable vets to round up that roster.

HOU isn't taking on a bunch of dead salary just for a few late picks. You'll have to add another team to take Lopez and send more assets to HOU. DDV would most likely need to be included.

[The Wet Whistle]

I know SHOOTING! is the big thing but I still want to look to increase the overall team smarts. Would still try to make a run at Rubio.

Don't know what a deal would look like tbh. Would likely need to have Lopez's salary slot +, which opens up other depth problems

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[EastSideBucksFan]

When can Jrue sign his contract extension?

We always heard "February" but no specific date was given.

February 26th

[Ron Swanson]

I'd keep an eye on Eric Gordon as we get closer to the deadline. Rockets are still gonna want to shed that contract but he's playing himself back into being a sneaky good microwave scorer/shooter. Combine that with my original idea of using Pat and DJ's salaries and I think you could maybe even squeeze an asset (get our 2022 1st back) for giving them cap savings.

BroLo/Pat/DJ for Gordon/Tucker/Boogie

The long term money isn't sexy but if you're already locked into this core for the foreseeable future, I think there's a chance a deal like that makes the team better come playoff time.

[WRau1]

I know SHOOTING! is the big thing but I still want to look to increase the overall team smarts. Would still try to make a run at Rubio.

Don't know what a deal would look like tbh. Would likely need to have Lopez's salary slot +, which opens up other depth problems

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Rubio, Reid to MIL
Lopez, Wilson to SAS
DDV, Gay, future 2nds to MIN

[Brewhoopfan]

After a blazing hot first six games, Donte is 17/63 (27%) in his last 14 games from 3. He's still at 38.7% overall, but his 2 pt % has cratered this year to 43%. It pains me to say it, but an upgrade will be needed.